The Software "Seed Vault" - Concept - Preparing a doomsday vault of Open Source Software

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TroonsDid911

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Enshittification and EnJewification of all software is reaching comic book villain levels of bad. The fact various governments are trying to pass Age ID laws on fucking OPERATING SYSTEMS without anyone protesting or Luigi'ing these fuckers is a bad sign.

Im thinking it might be a good idea to create a "Seed Vault"(a reference to various vaults kept by governments and scientists that contain plant and crop seeds for protection) of open source software and tools before everything becomes enshittified. We cannot trust GitHub or online services and even legit open source tools are bing infected with malware and pajeet vibe code slop as we speak.

Im making this thread in the hopes that people more computer literate then me can help people viewing this thread to save essential open source software and tools before this happens. If we can have lists of essential tools for general use / programming / decentralization etc. that we can save then we might have an arsenal that we can keep safe from Jeets, Jews and Tech Bro Fags.
 
TroonsDid911 dijo:
Luigi'ing these fuckers
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post manifesto, glownigger

In keeping with the seed comparison, its fairly pointless to archive bread made from grain instead of viable seeds: archive knowledge on how to make software, instead of software. Like these very important books:
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Sure, but the obvious problem is, who decides what goes? What are the metrics? Organization schema?
While I trust kiwis much more than indians, without addressing these questions, one might as well be digging through the Software Endorsements thread.

Harvey Danger dijo:
OSS software is its own archive, unless you're worried they will nuke their old repositories
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This. I don't imagine much of anything is vanishing.
What does happen often tho is software becoming unusable because the comptime toolchain / the runtime environment it depends on can no longer be sat up without sweating blood.
If you want to truly preserve software, that involves maintaining it.
 
About the title. How many people would store their semen/eggs in cryogenic stasis to be used only in the far future?
I find it hard to believe no one did the software vault idea yet.
agent_donkey dijo:
Sure, but the obvious problem is, who decides what goes? What are the metrics? Organization schema?
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Software that allows people to speak freely, software that allows people to have more privacy online and ad blockers should be the priority imo.
 
This idea has been done in various forms, here are some random examples taken from the r/cyberdeck subreddit. The general gist is that you get a low power mini pc, or raspberry pi, and stick it in a pelican case that you wrap with faraday cage material.

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As for what to put on it:
- Bunch of survival/crafting pdfs: https://www.survivorlibrary.com/index.php/main-library-index/
- Offline wikipedia/browser/more: https://github.com/kiwix/
- OS to allow programming microcontrollers (other links on the page too): https://collapseos.org/

How practical is all this? My 2 cents is that this is more of a fun project to do than a serious survival undertaking. If you truly want and need to depend on this, you'd need backup hardware, harddrives, cables, etc, just increasing the bulk of this thing. I'm not sure in SHTF situation that I'd really want to lug this around with everything else. But if you're able to hunker down with solar power, it makes a bit more sense.
 
Are you aware Github wasted a bunch of real money doing literally a seed vault concept? They put it on an Arctic island. https://archiveprogram.github.com/arctic-vault/

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As far as I'm aware, like the other posters said, open source software actually disappearing isn't a real problem.
What is a far bigger problem is the lack of maintainers and developers to keep projects going, because real world code needs maintainers to at least keep things running.

If your idea is just keeping a list of "good versions" of software, a bunch of those recommendations already exist?
 
Palmer Bangs dijo:
How practical is all this? My 2 cents is that this is more of a fun project to do than a serious survival undertaking. If you truly want and need to depend on this, you'd need backup hardware, harddrives, cables, etc, just increasing the bulk of this thing. I'm not sure in SHTF situation that I'd really want to lug this around with everything else. But if you're able to hunker down with solar power, it makes a bit more sense.
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Anker has good battery packs + solar panel options that are excellent for camping, and could easily power a Raspberry Pi or other low-power drain options. I don't know how long they could last in SHTF, but it's still an option.
 
awoo dijo:
As far as I'm aware, like the other posters said, open source software actually disappearing isn't a real problem.
What is a far bigger problem is the lack of maintainers and developers to keep projects going, because real world code needs maintainers to at least keep things running.

If your idea is just keeping a list of "good versions" of software, a bunch of those recommendations already exist?
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Don't just list good software. List bad software what's bad about it and why it's bad.

Then you can list an older version of it to highlight the enshittification. Or if there is no older version you can list an alternative and if there isn't any of that you can point that out as well.

The op might be interested in the following:

Futo is an organization the sponsors open source projects.
The consumer rights wiki tries to list incidents of enshittification.

Both have been promoted by Louis Rossman who has been working with right to repair for years and years.

The wiki has some need for volunteers I believe.
 
Surprised nobody has mentioned https://www.softwareheritage.org/

Guix has integrated fallback to the Software Heritage archive for some time now:

agent_donkey dijo:
If you want to truly preserve software, that involves maintaining it.
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If you want it to be well-integrated with the rest of the system and not cause a proliferation of different versions of dependencies, then yes.

But if you just want it to work... there's always `guix time-machine`.
 
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