The Snyder Cut is coming
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Sayon
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It's apparently 214 minutes, making it about 3.5 hours. Guesses are now that just under an hour of Snyder's original footage was used in the theatrical release of Justice League, meaning a staggering 2.5 hours were cut from the film.
This also partly addresses Warner considering Snyder's cut "unwatchable" (a three and a half hour movie is a lot to ask, even from Snyder fans) but the length was more or less mandated by the amount of material Snyder needed to cover. The movie had to introduce a couple new main characters, show Batman rounding the team up, do the Return of Superman, introduce Kirby's New Gods cast, and build up to a future, even bigger, movie. Meanwhile, the studio notes were raining down during actual production ("insert more humor", "give Wonder Woman a bigger role", "can one of them be gay?", etc).
When BvS was released, Justice League was ramping into production, but Warner was wishy-washy while deciding whether to make major or minor changes to Snyder's existing plan. In retrospect, complaints about Snyder's "darkness" were knee jerk and rooted to in the success of Marvel or just following the leads of critics/king nerds, not legitimate criticisms, and if anything the DC movies failed to get dark enough to distinguish themselves as more serious movies (again thanks to studio interference). In the aftermath of Joker, it does seem like Snyder was finally vindicated for trying to make his movies darker and more serious.
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I was fine with Man of Steel at the time, and thought it got a worse rep than it deserved.
BvS needed a serious rework of Lex Luthor and Doomsday - the dialogue between Lex and Superman struck me as something Heath Ledger Joker would say, but most certainly not Lex. My thought was that Eisenberg played an immature Lex that would come closer to form in Justice League following his time in prison. Unfortunately, this was not the case. Ultimately the movie would have been better served if Lex had simply been the overarching villain without any Doomsday, but he was so underpowered and not nearly at his comic book's level of intelligence that they just threw in a superpowered side-monster and called it a day.
BvS needed a serious rework of Lex Luthor and Doomsday - the dialogue between Lex and Superman struck me as something Heath Ledger Joker would say, but most certainly not Lex. My thought was that Eisenberg played an immature Lex that would come closer to form in Justice League following his time in prison. Unfortunately, this was not the case. Ultimately the movie would have been better served if Lex had simply been the overarching villain without any Doomsday, but he was so underpowered and not nearly at his comic book's level of intelligence that they just threw in a superpowered side-monster and called it a day.
I never really understood why people were so up-in-arms about the name-drop. This is Bruce Wayne we're talking about - his whole life and future career has been dictated by a pivotal moment where his parents were gunned down by a criminal. It defined him, and naturally it would both haunt him and be an object of obsession, so when some extraterrestrial he's about to kill tells him that he could still save Martha why shouldn't he be surprised? The only thing I can gather is that being a detective he should already have surmised Clark's identity as well as those of his foster parents, and thus it would not have been a shock.
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- 22 de Abr, 2015
It's apparently 214 minutes, making it about 3.5 hours. Guesses are now that just under an hour of Snyder's original footage was used in the theatrical release of Justice League, meaning a staggering 2.5 hours were cut from the film.
This also partly addresses Warner considering Snyder's cut "unwatchable" (a three and a half hour movie is a lot to ask, even from Snyder fans) but the length was more or less mandated by the amount of material Snyder needed to cover. The movie had to introduce a couple new main characters, show Batman rounding the team up, do the Return of Superman, introduce Kirby's New Gods cast, and build up to a future, even bigger, movie. Meanwhile, the studio notes were raining down during actual production ("insert more humor", "give Wonder Woman a bigger role", "can one of them be gay?", etc).
When BvS was released, Justice League was ramping into production, but Warner was wishy-washy while deciding whether to make major or minor changes to Snyder's existing plan. In retrospect, complaints about Snyder's "darkness" were knee jerk and rooted to in the success of Marvel or just following the leads of critics/king nerds, not legitimate criticisms, and if anything the DC movies failed to get dark enough to distinguish themselves as more serious movies (again thanks to studio interference). In the aftermath of Joker, it does seem like Snyder was finally vindicated for trying to make his movies darker and more serious.
I liked the Snyder movies so I'm a little biased. But obviously a decent number of people were not responding to the Snyder DC movies and I think the problem wasn't that they were too dark. The problem was that they focused on Superman who is not a "dark" character. People associate Superman with lighthearted cape shit. They don't want to see 9/11 imagery and him graphically dying.
Munchingonfish
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The speds won. No one willing to sit through 3.5 hours is going to say it was bad.
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- 22 de Abr, 2015
That's where something like Heaven's Gate would prove you wrong.
Sayon
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Man of Steel financially was successful and critically decent among the audience at worst. More to the point, there's nothing about Clark's character and his world that requires them all to be "lighthearted" and/or zany like the Donnor films.
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- 22 de Abr, 2015
It was mildly successful and the reception was split right down the middle. You either liked or hated that film.
Alton
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It made 668$ Million but was expected to make over 1 Billion Dollars.(There´s an Interview with an WB executive somewhere where he states he expects MoS to make at least as much the first Hobbit Movie.)
That is one of the main contributing factors as to why we got BvS and not Man of Steel 2.
Uranus Pink
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- 6 de Mar, 2019
Man of Steel at least shown why Earth and Humanity needs superheroes like Superman with the brawl in Smallville with the Kryptonians no selling everything the U.S. military fired at them.
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- 22 de Abr, 2015
I keep checking when the fuck this thing is coming out and we keep getting "Warner Bros. is thinking about it." What? Why did all the stars of Justice League tweet out #ReleasetheSnyderCut? I assume it's still coming in May-ish? But I found this interesting: this is what Steppenwolfe looked like prior to Whedon re-designing him.
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- 23 de Jul, 2019
We'll get the Snyder Cut when we get the butthole cut.
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- 4 de Feb, 2018
But I don't want to see Fuggo Miller act alongside the pedo, the bloated alcoholic, the zionist, the hawaiian, and the nigger.
I'd love more Jeremy Irons, Amy Adams, etc
I'd love more Jeremy Irons, Amy Adams, etc
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- 18 de Jun, 2019
I hated it and what's strange is I was a fan of Snyder's movies up to that point, I even loved Sucker Punch.
I wasn't expecting to dislike it as much as I did either, I thought the trailer was great, but there was something about Man of Steel that just struck me as very unpleasant and miserable to sit through.
Superman doesn't have to be silly or anything, but stuff like evoking 9/11 imagery was just so tacky and tasteless.