The Sexual Revolution - and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race

[Zelmek]

In a way, sexual liberation has been a byproduct of the feminism movement as they perceive any negative consequences as acceptable so long as the disparity between the sexes is lessened. Traditional values getting in the way? They become hostile to traditional cultures and embrace sexual liberation as a casual pastime rather than a thing that has consequences. Concept of marriage too restrictive? Can't just tolerate a difference of opinion. The traditional folks might raise their kids better so instead, they make a big LGBTLMNOP push to bastardize the meaning of marriage to being nothing more than a civil union of two people living together. All the negative consequences get passed onto a plethora of mental illnesses in their kids but rather than accept that, they double down and start complaining about how to raise them saying not to spank them and crying stuff like 'assigned gender' when the doctor checks to see if the kid has a dick or not.

Oh yeah, don't forget the economic side where we have effectively doubled the supply of labor and thus made it harder to negotiate a higher wage so now everyone has to go to work to make ends meet and the kids get sent to the brainwashing daycare schools packed with progressive folks wanting to keep this mess spiraling further down the drain.

 

[Super-Chevy454]

In a way, sexual liberation has been a byproduct of the feminism movement as they perceive any negative consequences as acceptable so long as the disparity between the sexes is lessened. Traditional values getting in the way? They become hostile to traditional cultures and embrace sexual liberation as a casual pastime rather than a thing that has consequences.

And some of these feminists praises Islam...until they're under the bus.

 

[Lemmingwise]

I looked into it a little. Although I've not yet read the source material, there is a book called "the naked communist" that seems to argue in part, what I speculated to be true.

Look at point 24, point 25, point 26, point 40

This image is the list of goals derived from the book.

 

[MrJokerRager]

And some of these feminists praises Islam...until they're under the bus.

Current era feminists want their cake and eat it to. Basically they want to be treated like princesses with no responsibility and high respect. Just like upper class women in shitholes like Saudi Arabia who actually praise the guardian system for those reasons. They will adapt just fine.

 

[Jones McCann]

I looked into it a little. Although I've not yet read the source material, there is a book called "the naked communist" that seems to argue in part, what I speculated to be true.

Look at point 24, point 25, point 26, point 40

This image is the list of goals derived from the book.

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38. Transfer some of the powers of arrest from police to social agencies. Treat all behavioral problems as psychiatric disorders which no one but psychiatrists can understand or treat.

Sure sounds familiar, doesn't it. In fact, a lot of these sound familiar. The debate of obscenity and pornography is always one of "freedom of speech" and never framed in any other way.

 

[Unassuming Local Guy]

Hypersexualization is one of the final steps of every rat utopia-style downfall in the history of the world. Name a single empire that collapsed under its own decadence that didn't go through a subversion of monogamy. You can't, because it always happens. Exactly what causes it isn't even really worth discussing, because even if you stomp out one fire there are 700 more. The solution isn't to kill all pornographers (although I wouldn't stop you), the solution is to prevent your society from entering the behavioral sink in the first place, and the only way to do that is to make sure they're always united for or against something. Doesn't matter what it is. God, country, smiting the heathens, whatever. Give them something to care about or they'll stop caring about anything and degenerate into cum-brained apes who seek out increasingly violent means of remembering what it's like to feel an emotion.

Once a culture crosses the event horizon of hedonism, the only way to stop it is to introduce a sudden, apocalyptic hardship. World War 2 did the trick for a lot of countries, but it's been almost 80 years since the average western woman experienced a hardship greater than "I have to wait an extra month before I can afford the new iPhone". I say woman because men were still being sent off to die in foreign lands up until 1975, which is also why men are less mentally fucked up than women on average. They still remember what actual hardship is like. Women don't.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Name a single empire that collapsed under its own decadence that didn't go through a subversion of monogamy

Mongol empire. Essentially collapsed due to sibling infighting and being absorbed by the cultures that they ruled. Never had monogamy, but polygamy (for those who could afford it).

The Aztec empire. Collapsed under a mix of rebellion, outside invaders, disease and weakening due to frequent human sacrifice.
(Homosexuality and adultry were punishable by death)

The British empire. The Dutch empire. The Japanese empire. I could go on.

Yes, subversion of sexual mores is devastating to a culture and it's cohesion. It's destabilizing. But it's neither the only, or an always available marker of decline.

Sure sounds familiar, doesn't it. In fact, a lot of these sound familiar. The debate of obscenity and pornography is always one of "freedom of speech" and never framed in any other way.

It's always interesting to find old social engineering plans. You can look at which were succesfully achieved and which weren't. You can see that they weren't all succesful.

As for the psychologists being put in control, I know one that is responsible for defending rapists and murderers and getting them back onto the street. She doesn't really agree, but is amoral enough to also not really care. She is to ignore all bad signs and obly mention the good side. State funded. Fun times.

 

[Syaoran Li]

Mongol empire. Essentially collapsed due to sibling infighting and being absorbed by the cultures that they ruled. Never had monogamy, but polygamy (for those who could afford it).

The Aztec empire. Collapsed under a mix of rebellion, outside invaders, disease and weakening due to frequent human sacrifice.
(Homosexuality and adultry were punishable by death)

The British empire. The Dutch empire. The Japanese empire. I could go on.

Yes, subversion of sexual mores is devastating to a culture and it's cohesion. It's destabilizing. But it's neither the only, or an always available marker of decline.

Rome was at its height when it was pagan and "sexually immoral" but then rapidly went into decline when they adopted Christianity and austere Yahwehist morals.

Yes, that ignores the fact that Rome was actually collapsing due to overextension of the bureaucracy and economic instability that weakened their military and increasingly forced them to rely on foreigners to act as mercenaries, but it's about as logical and sensible as the theories on the collapse of the British Empire or the Mongol Hordes being from sexual immorality

Plus, it could be argued that adopting the strict austerity of Christian morality was a subversion of the mores of the Greco-Roman world, sexual or otherwise. But history is written by the victors...

Like you mentioned, the Mongol Empire collapsed simply because it was too loosely structured and was essentially run as a tribal government that extended across damn near all of Asia and parts of Eastern Europe and that aided in its collapse and the successor states absorbing the cultures of their more technically advanced and organized subjects.

The British Empire collapsed under a similar condition of economic decline and military overextension as Rome but had the foresight to peaceably dissolve the empire proper as much as possible in the early 1960's when it became obvious that it couldn't be held onto for much longer. They didn't want repeats of India or the Suez Crisis.

Japan's empire collapsed because it was on the losing side of a World War and had to pick between bowing down and surrendering to the country that had just nuked them twice or risk a ground invasion from them or even worse, a ground invasion from the bloodthirsty Soviets.

Matter of fact, Imperial Japan was a very socially conservative state that modeled a lot of its societal reforms on those of Victorian Britain and Prussia, both being conservative Protestant countries. They didn't get their reputation for "moral deviancy" until after their empire collapsed and they became a democratic republic in the post-war era.

 

[Lemmingwise]

Rome was at its height when it was pagan and "sexually immoral" but then rapidly went into decline when they adopted Christianity and austere Yahwehist morals.

Yes, that ignores the fact that Rome was actually collapsing due to overextension of the bureaucracy and economic instability that weakened their military and increasingly forced them to rely on foreigners to act as mercenaries, but it's about as logical and sensible as the theories on the collapse of the British Empire or the Mongol Hordes being from sexual immorality

Plus, it could be argued that adopting the strict austerity of Christian morality was a subversion of the mores of the Greco-Roman world, sexual or otherwise...

In actuality, the Mongol Empire collapsed simply because it was too loosely structured and was essentially run as a tribal government that extended across damn near all of Asia and parts of Eastern Europe and that aided in its collapse and the successor states absorbing the cultures of their more technically advanced and organized subjects.

The British Empire collapsed under a similar condition of economic decline and military overextension as Rome but had the foresight to peaceably dissolve the empire proper as much as possible in the early 1960's when it became obvious that it couldn't be held onto for much longer. They didn't want repeats of India or the Suez Crisis.

Japan's empire collapsed because it was on the losing side of a World War and had to pick between bowing down and surrendering to the country that had just nuked them twice or risk a ground invasion from them or even worse, a ground invasion from the bloodthirsty Soviets.

Matter of fact, Imperial Japan was a very socially conservative state that modeled a lot of its societal reforms on those of Victorian Britain and Prussia, both being conservative Protestant countries. They didn't get their reputation for "moral deviancy" until after their empire collapsed and they became a democratic republic in the post-war era.

I don't think you've noticed that you made my point for me.

I'm glad you agree.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I don't think you've noticed that you made my point for me.

I did and I edited my post accordingly as you were typing.

I've been a bit sleep deprived so forgive my mistakes. I got your posts and @Unassuming Local Guy mixed up

 

[Malagor the dank omen]

They didn't get their reputation for "moral deviancy" until after their empire collapsed and they became a democratic republic in the post-war era.

Interesting. I remember many recounts of medieval Japan from Portuguese and italian traders and missionaries and i laughed when they said "Out of all the barbarian nations in the world, Japan is without a doubt the most lewd one".

 

[Dumpsterfire Enthusiast]

Personally dont mind it since it means my own degeneracy isnt really considered to be as weird as it used to be

 

[Lemmingwise]

Interesting. I remember many recounts of medieval Japan from Portuguese and italian traders and missionaries and i laughed when they said "Out of all the barbarian nations in the world, Japan is without a doubt the most lewd one".

That is up there with Dutch VOC saying that new amsterdam (new york) was turning into a terrible den of drugs and prostitution and greek philosophers complaining about the young not having respect for the elderly anymore.

I can't find anything about it though. Have some leads as to when that was said or by whom?

I kinda wonder why they said it. I do know some of the earliest portuguese - japanese trade (when japanese trade vessels came to portuguese trading places like macau) that a lot of the trade was japanese (sex) slaves for saltpeter and other goods needed to make guns.

 

[soon]

There was no sexual revolution, just a rebranding of what always existed. Women are whores. Who gives a shit about them? Faggots are insane. Who gives a shit about them? Like what was so revolutionary? They allowed women to fuck without a permission from her daddy\husband? Well.. shiiiet.. The revolution was industrial. All of a sudden whores and faggots have cars and internet and mobile phones. That's why it may look like as if it's some sexual revolution that caused social decline but it's not. The overpopulation is the reason and well.. industries. Overpopulation is a problem for an industrial society because degenerates obtain something they don't deserve, so they use it for shit that nobody needs creating more confusion chaos and other malfunction.

 

[Syaoran Li]

There was no sexual revolution, just a rebranding of what always existed.

How would you know unless you're gay?

 

[Bum Driller]

The Sexual revolution happened because then young Boomers wanted to appear overly rebellious in front of their puritan parents, not because of the KGB.

And they were also genuinely pissed that the society was controlled by moral ideas that no-one truly believed in anymore. Every single boomer whom I personally know can rant for hours about how shitty things were back then and how the sexual revolution is the best thing ever that has happened in their lifetimes. Only religious nutjobs and people who are too disgusting to get sex from anyone can even conceivably think that sexual revolution would be a bad thing.

 

[soon]

How would you know unless you're gay?

That's what makes a difference between a white man and a sub-human\nigger\female, white men can actually make a correct conclusion without trying anything personally, because we have lab rats for testing, creatures like females\niggers\chinks are pretty good testing subjects. Plus there are a lot of white faggots. Like we don't need to taste shit to determine that it taste like shit. Are you sure you're woke? I think you're being disrespectful to the gay community by including me in it. I expect apologies made to me and the agency.

 

[Syaoran Li]

That's what makes a difference between a white man and a sub-human\nigger\female, white men can actually make a correct conclusion without trying anything personally, because we have lab rats for testing, creatures like females\niggers\chinks are pretty good testing subjects. Plus there are a lot of white faggots. Like we don't need to taste shit to determine that it taste like shit. Are you sure you're woke? I think you're being disrespectful to the gay community by including me in it. I expect apologies made to me and the agency.

lol calm down

 

[Ughubughughughughughghlug]

The Sexual Revolution is a disaster because I don't get to fuck as much as Chad.

Honestly, as I think about it, I think what really fucks people up is when they're bombarded with tons of sexual messaging (sexy advertising, sex jokes, the like) while being underserved by it. It drives people insane.

Hypersexualization is one of the final steps of every rat utopia-style downfall in the history of the world. Name a single empire that collapsed under its own decadence that didn't go through a subversion of monogamy. You can't, because it always happens. Exactly what causes it isn't even really worth discussing, because even if you stomp out one fire there are 700 more. The solution isn't to kill all pornographers (although I wouldn't stop you), the solution is to prevent your society from entering the behavioral sink in the first place, and the only way to do that is to make sure they're always united for or against something. Doesn't matter what it is. God, country, smiting the heathens, whatever. Give them something to care about or they'll stop caring about anything and degenerate into cum-brained apes who seek out increasingly violent means of remembering what it's like to feel an emotion.

Once a culture crosses the event horizon of hedonism, the only way to stop it is to introduce a sudden, apocalyptic hardship. World War 2 did the trick for a lot of countries, but it's been almost 80 years since the average western woman experienced a hardship greater than "I have to wait an extra month before I can afford the new iPhone". I say woman because men were still being sent off to die in foreign lands up until 1975, which is also why men are less mentally fucked up than women on average. They still remember what actual hardship is like. Women don't.

Give me some actual examples of empires that collapsed under decadence that had a subversion of monogamy.

 

[Heckler1]

Honestly, as I think about it, I think what really fucks people up is when they're bombarded with tons of sexual messaging (sexy advertising, sex jokes, the like) while being underserved by it. It drives people insane.

I disagree. I think it's less people seeing sex and not getting it, and more that we now have several generations that haven been ruined by disnification and marshmallow romance. Boys and girls grow up being taught there is a "perfect one" usually in the form of whatever is considered ideal at the time, and generally what they are taught to pursue is something that does not exist. So instead of tempering their expectations or accepting that relationships are work, they pine away for a perfect partner who won't exist because the vision they have for them is not real. Meeting real people, and forming relationships irl requires the acceptance of things that are both good and bad. If people spent less time pining for their prince/ess charming and instead went after what was availible, people would be happier.