The Ralph Bakshi Thread

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Ralph Bakshi was a smart-ass Jewish director from NYC who made a bunch of edgelord shit in the 1970s. I'm bringing him up because I think a lot of you would get a kick out of it.
Bakshi's big thing was making ultraviolent, ultrasexual bullshit that looked like a heavy metal cartoon. Of his library, I've seen three so far and have two more to watch. It's crunchy stuff. You can tell he was the kind of kid who stopped maturing at the age of 13 when he learned to draw naked women but was still drawing gorillas spearing dinosaurs or something.

WIZARDS
I'm all out of spells, but I'm not out of shells

Post-apocalyptic fairy tale fantasy. Evil Wizard is trying to use literal Hitler propaganda movies to create a mythos for his empire. I wish I could find the scene to share, but the best scene is all these goofy-ass dudes, have these gas masks that look like pig snouts, hooting and hollering, looks like Charlie Brown animation, while music swells and the Wehrmacht marches and bombs drop. This one is a very competently done adventure movie in the style of crap like Lord of the Rings with a lush storybook-like art style, and it makes REALLY interesting use of rotoscoping and I THINK early green screens as a way to create very ghostly, menacing villains. It is quite fun.

FRITZ THE CAT
Now, this, Fire and Ice and Coonskin are why I'm talking about him here. Fritz the Cat was this, like, super edgy comic back before that kind of thing was normalized, and Bakshi decided to make a satire of 1970s radicalism, Days of Rage type shit (I know that book's beloved around here). The thing about Bakshi is that while he's a New York Jew, he's the old school type that was able to find wry amusement in everything around him. He makes everything grotesque and can at the same time sympathize with Leftist causes (namely the Blacks) while also scorning the Leftist libshits themselves AND scorning the White honkie pigs AND mocking Black's own self-defeating self-degrading culture. In Coonskin (discussed below), he especially plays that hard and deliberately by basically making them into a bunch of blackface animals.

Fritz the Cat is a piece of shit college degenerate living in NYC who basically wanders through his worthless hippie-adjacent lifestyle (dope and orgies) into becoming a would-be revolutionary after fucking a big, fat Black woman. Right from the get-go this thing is mocking libtards brutally.

This thing is incredibly raunchy, with both works and doesn't. It's not pornographic so much as it's like one of these seedy dirty comics your greasy uncle might have read, not porn but comedy. Those White-coded dog girls? You will see Fritz play with their nipples and fuck them and all that. It gets tiring after a while because this sort of bullshit just happens nonstop, but all the same, it's absolutely degenerate in a funny way.

Unfortunately, our boy DOES NOT get his just desserts for his rampage (during which he manages to cause a riot so big the Air Force napalms Harlem and joins Manson Family/Weather Underground expies) but neither did these people in real life. Ends on a bunch of photos of NYC, like it's rubbing your face in, "Isn't NYC a shithole? Isn't this a disgusting hell world?"

FIRE AND ICE
This one is sword and sorcery bullshit ala Conan. Now, again, Bakshi was in his own twisted way one of those 1970s Leftist types, but, if merely do to the conventions of this genre, he wound up making something hilariously racist. You've got this blonde Aryan God who's Tarzaning his way around the jungle, one of those homoerotic muscle men with flowing hair and a jock strap on, and he has to fight all of the orc-like, ambiguously brown monkey-faced men in the world. Real Troglodyte types. Just has to knife them. There's this one scene where they invade some princess' palace or something and they're carrying her off (and since this is a Bakshi movie, of course she's basically in her underwear), and it looks like some propaganda from the Victorian Era about how the Chinky Menace will rape your women if you don't vote to expel the coolie population. The Trogs have queues on their heads. In the end, the big bad villain is a faggot. Not literally, but he's a pretty boy. It's just real manly unga bunga shit.

HAVEN'T SEEN: COONSKIN
I grew up listening to Br'er Rabbit tales. (Was a hell of an experience in Folklore class when a Black student was giving a presentation and getting half of it wrong and I felt like I couldn't say anything...) Br'er Rabbit trying to pimp or corner the heroin trade or whatever. The White slut keeps getting them killed, is like the illusory promise of America or whatever.

HAVEN'T SEEN: THE LORD OF THE RINGS
He did that too before Peter Jackson did. It's just The Lord of the Rings. Tonally, it's supposed to lose the epic majesty that Jackson got, but it adds the feeling of scariness and smallness that Jackson didn't.
 
Lol so I still haven't watched a Ralph Bakshi film proper even though I own copies of Wizards, Cool World, and Hey Good Lookin' (bought it for my husband's birthday when we were dating 'cause he likes greasers). I did download Coonskin ages ago, still haven't touched it.

Hilariously, I had an animation teacher in high school who said during an animation history lesson where Bakshi was brought up that she actually considered showing us Coonskin, or at least some clips, but she had a black student in another class and didn't want to risk offending him. Would've been wild.
 
I fucking love this movie. I remember getting really stoned in high school and watching this with some friends but it wasn't until a couple of years ago that I found out what movie it was and who made it.
I wish I could find the scene to share, but the best scene is all these goofy-ass dudes, have these gas masks that look like pig snouts, hooting and hollering, looks like Charlie Brown animation, while music swells and the Wehrmacht marches and bombs drop.
Motherfuckers love to use clips of it in edited music videos. If you poke around you can probably find it minus the audio.
 
Bakshi is amazing. Fritz the Cat and Heavy Traffic were pretty memorable for me and I felt like an idiot for not connecting the dots and knowing he was the man who animated the LOTR in 1978 until like three years ago.
 
I wish I could find the scene to share, but the best scene is all these goofy-ass dudes, have these gas masks that look like pig snouts, hooting and hollering, looks like Charlie Brown animation, while music swells and the Wehrmacht marches and bombs drop
No one ever told me that armageddon would be so funky.

 
Not was... Is. The guy still alive and kicking and making cartoons at 87 years old.
He is legendary just for the fact that cartoonists are no longer allowed to sit with the censors anymore because during the screenings of his children shows like mighty mouse he would intentionally lean forward and say things like "Do you guys like baseball?" and start up a conversation about baseball with the censors so that he could slip an adult joke through a children's program.
The guys a fucking LEGEND and there would be no such thing as adult animation without him.
 
I finally got around to seeing American Pop and would definitely recommend it. Though I will say it takes a bit of time for it to pick up but when it does it really does not take its foot of the gas. It picks up with the greaser teenager who road trips to California.
 
"What do your Elf eyes see, Legolas?"
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"Too much Aragorn, too much."
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I finally got around to seeing American Pop and would definitely recommend it. Though I will say it takes a bit of time for it to pick up but when it does it really does not take its foot of the gas. It picks up with the greaser teenager who road trips to California.
It does take a while for the story to heat up but the animation is great from beginning to end. The detail of the rotoscoped characters combined with the still backgrounds almost makes it look like an illustration come to life.


This was also my first Ralph Bakshi film and I had stumbled on it completely by accident.
 
It does take a while for the story to heat up but the animation is great from beginning to end. The detail of the rotoscoped characters combined with the still backgrounds almost makes it look like an illustration come to life.

https://youtube.com/watch?v=SJD9jutF31Ihttps://youtube.com/watch?v=vpy7F9leBnA
This was also my first Ralph Bakshi film and I had stumbled on it completely by accident.
That's 2 things you're looking at: sheer fucking talent and rotoscoping. He would film entire scenes in live action and then painstakingly animate it.
I'll never get over how they talked him into being the fire chief in the adult version of Ren and Stimpy.


LET'S GO GET LAID :story:
 
Way back, in the town I lived then, there used to be this regular indie pop/college rock club event that used a edited still from Coonskin for their promo flyers. Years later I discovered the source of the image.
 
Fritz The Cat? More interesting than actually good.
Coonskin? Magnificent. Should be in every Greatest Animated Films list.
LOTR? Better than I expected, honestly. Has a lot of problems, but does quite a few things right too. (This is a common sentiment I have for Bakshi's films...)
Wizards? Good, but VERY lumpy. For every memorable scene was a cringe scene.
American Pop? Not quite as good as Coonskin, but worth finding and watching.
Heavy Traffic? Unwatchable IMO. Not sure why this got so much glazing.
Hey Good Lookin? "MEH" at best, but it was doomed from the get go production wise.
Fire and Ice? Never saw it, can't say.
 
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