The Original Sinners? - Culpability for slavery among white people in the United States.

[Dutch Courage]

One of the most fascinating demographic stats you might not have seen anywhere is this:

Among all white people currently alive in the United States, a full 60-70% trace their lineage to persons who arrived in the United States after 1870, mostly during the great immigration era of 1870-1924, About 30 million Europeans entered the U.S. during this time. This included especially Irish, Poles, Jews, Germans, and Scandinavians. Millions more arrived from 1925-1965, especially from Eastern and Western Europe. Most of their descendants are what the average person would consider to be "white"

Most of these immigrants experienced significant discrimination in areas like housing and employment. They didn't have it as bad as the slaves did, but they didn't especially have it much better than black Americans did at the turn of the 20th century. This point is not germane to my point about demographics, but it ought to be acknowledged anyway.

The left has been using the term "the original sin" to refer to slavery, and they literally hold all white people accountable as sinners. The left does not differentiate between slave owners and abolitionists, or Northerners and Southerners. All white people share the original sin, since all white people benefited from slavery. This is how the dogma goes.

I don't know about you, by my great great grandparents were picking potatoes in Ireland when the U.S. Civil War ended. They had nothing to do with slavery, and they came from an oppressed country that was very vocally abolitionist. There was no generational wealth in our family for several generations (and there ain't much now, tbh); my grandfather was a delivery truck driver. 60-70% of white people have similar stories of humble beginnings far from the United States well after the end of slavery. Only 30-40% of white people have slavery-era American ancestors. Most of them were non-slaveholders and some of them were abolitionist. Eventually a war was fought, primarily by white people, that put a decisive end to slavery. And even those with slave-owning ancestors are not guilty of owning slaves now.

So when lefties get into debates and start throwing around reparations and original sin and the demonic white man, why not toss this stat in their face? They'll pretend not to hear you, but to anyone else within earshot, you may score a point.

Just an idle thought.

 

[Skitarii]

American culture is centered around niggers. They have holidays for niggers. They killed hundreds of thousands of white men to free niggers. They listen to nigger music. They elect a nigger as their president. They dress and act like niggers. They draw the entirety of their modern culture from niggers. They post sassy gifs about niggers. They watch sportsball in worship of niggers. Their biggest event of the year involves throwing parties in honor of niggers playing sports. They use nigger slang like "bruh" and "thot". When you say "Martin Luther" they're not thinking of the father of protestantism. They're thinking of the nigger. Their cities are completely overrun with niggers. They worship their ZOGbot police force disproportionately filled with niggers and their global police force of soldiers filled with niggers. Their men sit around watching nigger ball while their women sit around watching nigger talk shows. They worship niggers like Muhammad Ali and Michael Jordan and Michael Jackson and the late Eddie Murphy while attacking the whites who actually built their country before niggers took over. Their movies are filled with niggers and their music charts are topped by niggers. They send niggers to the Olympics and celebrate when the niggers win because those niggers are true red blooded american niggers. They watch nigger porn to a point where "BBC" does not make them think of an international media company but about nigger penises instead. They will tell you how much they hate niggers and how the mutt's law meme is a stale joke and they are just pretending to love niggers but the evidence speaks for itself in that America has always been and will be a nation of nigger loving niggers

 

[Xarpho's Return]

A tiny percentage of Southerners owned slaves, yet they'll still say that the rank and file joined for that cause. (Not to mention the union slave states). Do you really think "well my great-great-great-great grandpappy never owned slaves" is going to get you forgiven?

 

[pollution jim]

We shouldn't need to trace all of these lineages of whites because being a descendant of a slave owner is meaningless. Probably everyone has an ancestor who at least worked with slaves in other parts of the world. If anything it's the original sin of civilization itself. Whites abolished it, and what we get in return is getting blamed for it by niggers with recency bias and a lack of knowledge of history

 

[Cooked Rabbit]

I wonder what would happen if you asked their opinion of the genre of whites disproportionately involved in the transatlantic slave trade.

 

[23iwakura23]

The civil war and reconstruction more or less destroyed southern wealth anyway, and programs like those run by the freedman's bureau redistributed lands to free slaves back in the late 19th century. So the "benefits" of slavery were all destroyed or redistributed to blacks anyway.

Secondly, generational wealth only lasts for 1-3 generations in something like 70% of cases. Slavery is so distant in the past that no one is benefiting from it nor still feeling the harm from it. Modern black issues mostly stem from the downstream economic effects caused by their second great migration between 1940 and 1970.

So the premise that "we all benefited" is simply false. The benefits of slavery were wiped out in the war, and even if they had survived, they're so distant that no one meaningfully inherits them as distinct from black people.

The reality is that the american civic religion is subconsciously terrified of the confederacy and uses blacks and slavery as anti-confederate fetishes more or less. Like they're warding off the CSA devil whenever they bring it up. And the terror is inspired by the fact that the CSA is more or less the only thing that ever came close to destroying the Union. That's why we still have to talk about it as if it were relevant. Mentioning how bad slavery was is for the US civic religious about the same as dabbing on some holy water and crossing themselves. It's a religious reminder that the CSA was evil and that the south cannot rise again.

 

[We Are The Witches]

While your great grandfathers were picking potatoes in the garden, some of the blacks' great grandfathers had black slaves back in their country, lynched and beat other blacks due to ignorance and retarded (in every sense of the word) practices & ideologies.

Yet you're the one who has to make the reparations.

If this world wasn't this retarded, these entitled morons would be completely ignored, mocked (for their hypocrisy, ignorance and irrationality), and put in jail when they try something criminal (as it's their fate to do so).

 

[Yamaha YM2612]

The left has been using the term "the original sin"

It's not a sin, and niggers need to stfu considering their entire existence has been made better by slavery (and white people actually) in some way