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The Official Tomb Raider Grieving Thread - Including the sad, pathetic 2010s trilogy.
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Tomb Raider had a fanbase full of cis women who were okay with Lara's buxom design (see Stella's guides, Kurtis Trent Estrogen Brigade, AgentXP, Melonie Mac, thousands of cosplayers) and yet male "feminists" and trans "women" chose to tear down and destroy Lara without ever asking for women's opinion. Really makes you think!
You can find both remasters for less pennies than the transaction fee most of the time. Once a game hits a humble bundle, the price on key sites plummets.
Tomb Raider had a fanbase full of cis women who were okay with Lara's buxom design (see Stella's guides, Kurtis Trent Estrogen Brigade, AgentXP, Melonie Mac, thousands of cosplayers) and yet male "feminists" and trans "women" chose to tear down and destroy Lara without ever asking for women's opinion. Really makes you think!
Tomb Raider had a fanbase full of cis women who were okay with Lara's buxom design (see Stella's guides, Kurtis Trent Estrogen Brigade, AgentXP, Melonie Mac, thousands of cosplayers) and yet male "feminists" and trans "women" chose to tear down and destroy Lara without ever asking for women's opinion. Really makes you think!
Yet a lot of these people seemed to have no problem with those Uncharted-looking games where when Lara got killed every grotesque second of her getting gored or spiked through the neck or something and having the light leave her eyes was shown in almost pornographic detail and tone. No, in earlier games her running around jungles and temples in a tank top and shorts, that was what had been problematic.
Yet a lot of these people seemed to have no problem with those Uncharted-looking games where when Lara got killed every grotesque second of her getting gored or spiked through the neck or something and having the light leave her eyes was shown in almost pornographic detail and tone. No, in earlier games her running around jungles and temples in a tank top and shorts, that was what had been problematic.
Women being comfortable in their skin is bad. Women being gruesomely murdered is good. The same happened to Resident Evil. Grace wasn't allowed to be attractive, but she has a lot of detailed death scenes that RE fans fap to (there are Grace ryona channels on YouTube) because Capcom wants to subvert normal sexuality.
They do motivate you to play better and avoid these death scenes like plague, but it can be a slippery slope especially with how realistic nugames can get. Like how long will it be before the game shows you real gore/shock material as punishment? Older games didn't have this problem, it was just Lara making a noise and playing an animation with no blood or dismemberment at all. Maybe making loading times really long would have the same punishing effect.
Women being comfortable in their skin is bad. Women being gruesomely murdered is good. The same happened to Resident Evil. Grace wasn't allowed to be attractive, but she has a lot of detailed death scenes that RE fans fap to (there are Grace ryona channels on YouTube) because Capcom wants to subvert normal sexuality.
They do motivate you to play better and avoid these death scenes like plague, but it can be a slippery slope especially with how realistic nugames can get. Like how long will it be before the game shows you real gore/shock material as punishment? Older games didn't have this problem, it was just Lara making a noise and playing an animation with no blood or dismemberment at all. Maybe making loading times really long would have the same punishing effect.
I agree with some of it. They don't mind showing women getting gruesomely killed, being objectified as gore-bags and thereby pandering to people who enjoy gore, but they hate making them beautiful for the people who enjoy beauty.
That being said, gore rules!
If you control a female character as a guy in third person you can't help but feel more protective about those pixels on screen.
The character being beautiful increases this feeling. The character being some disgusting Indian can invert this effect.
Gruesome gore as a consequence also increases this feeling.
Beauty and gore both increase immersion because they increase how much you care about the character and the consequences.
Tomb Raider and Dead Space/whatever Protocol are the only games in recent times I remember seeing people youtubing death compilations. It's something to look forward to. That one chin-piercing metal pole on the waterfall in the TR reboot is probably following people to the grave.
Tomb Raider and Dead Space/whatever Protocol are the only games in recent times I remember seeing people youtubing death compilations. It's something to look forward to. That one chin-piercing metal pole on the waterfall in the TR reboot is probably following people to the grave.
whoever worked on the death animations for the reboots definitely had some kind of ryona/gore/snuff fetish, i can't think of any other reason why they'd make her deaths so gruesome
whoever worked on the death animations for the reboots definitely had some kind of ryona/gore/snuff fetish, i can't think of any other reason why they'd make her deaths so gruesome
Probably came from the Midas death etc in the originals. I mean, nothing takes you out of a game faster than dying, the frame freezing and your ragdolling body flying off screen. Nobody likes realistic 'gets shot and dies' ragdolling. It has to be cinematic or controlled in some way.
