The Linux Thread - The Autist's OS of Choice

[Sperg Coalition]

Efistub isn’t newbie friendly, so I doubt that. For example if you unplug the drive your /boot is located on and power the machine up, UEFI will purge all the entries relying on that drive.

Or just use ELILO. It works and it's really easy to configure, no joke.

 

[DavidS877]

screenshot

The number of people who send a screeenshot instead of a text snippet or a log file is too damn high. It's not Windows, you can just send the text.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

It's not Windows, you can just send the text.

That can be applied in general, not just Windows but the point still stands: too many people send photos of screens instead of screenshooting the window/screen or sending log files when you ask them to do so. It pisses me off.

 

[Rusty Metal Skull Gun]

For example if you unplug the drive your /boot is located on and power the machine up, UEFI will purge all the entries relying on that drive.

That's a firmware bug, it shouldn't do that. I've not seen that particular bug, but I have seen similar idiocies.
Rather than using a live CD, maybe save a copy of the EFI shell as BOOTX64.EFI so it gets chosen as an automatic fallback.

You’ll have to boot a live distro and run efibootmgr to add a new entry for your Efistub, and good luck remembering your kernel arguments if you had the computer handle the install for you.

If you're compiling your own kernel, there's also CONFIG_CMDLINE to hardcode it.

 

[Susanna]

If you're compiling your own kernel, there's also CONFIG_CMDLINE to hardcode it.

I would argue that compiling your own kernel to make efibootmgr easier to use isn't exactly the definition of newb friendly either.

 

[Darkholme's Dungeon]

The number of people who I hear about: "Yea, I broke my Linux system and reinstalled." is way higher than it should be.
I don't even think I've managed to do that more than once in 30 years, and it was probably trying to force upgrade something that didn't want to be forced.

I think it depends on the amount of fuckup and the degree of knowledge. Like going from mutilib to 64bit native on gentoo.
It's also sometimes easier to reinstall base systems, at least compared to windows it doesn't take hours on end (maybe if you use ubuntu like a nigger).

I get 2nd hand anger just looking at screenshots

I recall only one "real" case of being forced to screenshot with my tech retardation. It was a faulty NVME controller while being used with ECC and an issue with the motherboard causing the log to not be written and causing all my ports to fail (unable to input anything)... In that case though I don't think 99% of people will ever experience that.

 

[Hexadecimal Machine]

I love how this comment made 4 people assmad.

>Wayland bad, X11 good.

"Look, I made you an NPC because you don't like the thing I like." My brother in christ, you are the NPC.
It was just a dumb post. The only reason X would be stuttering so badly is if you misconfigured it. Not every dumb sticker is given out of anger.
The performance difference between Wayland and X is minimal at best.

 

[WinRAR Free Trial]

No one cares about your retarded display protocol war please shut the fuck up

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

Wayland just seems like GnomeFags trying some other means to center themselves as the apple of the linux world. Yes things can sound nice if they can fix problems xorg (I will admit I don't care enough to look into specifics since xorg works fine for me) but my understanding is that the compositor is completely open to different forms of implementation which leads to things like gnome doing things one way and then say sway doing things a completely different way (again I don't delve into specifics.) Now the thing I'm concerned about (outside of gnome devs being massive cunts) is that you pretty much have to run an entire xorg session in wayland in order to use like pretty much every piece of software out there. So I'm wondering if they're doing it like pipewire does with pulseaudio and "pipewire-pulse" where it's just a module that for all intents an purposes is xorg to every program or are they doing some esoteric magic.

Even worse, if there's a black dude, they don't usually send a screenshot. They send a photo of their monitor with the text too small to see so they can show off their expensive monitor and whatever else they have around the desk. Either that or they're too fucking stupid to take a screenshot.

Let's be honest here. All races are fucking retarded when it comes to tech support and screenshots or logs. If there is anything in the universe that is truly free of any kind of discrimination it's the tech illiteracy that exists as a whole.

 

[Betonhaus]

Let's be honest here. All races are fucking retarded when it comes to tech support and screenshots or logs. If there is anything in the universe that is truly free of any kind of discrimination it's the tech illiteracy that exists as a whole.

This is the race that frequently takes pictures of themselves with wads of cash then posts it on facebook, I'm not going to give them the benefit of the doubt here.

 

[0gh]

Let's be honest here. All races are fucking retarded when it comes to tech support and screenshots or logs. If there is anything in the universe that is truly free of any kind of discrimination it's the tech illiteracy that exists as a whole.

Oh definitely, I'm not even racist, I just think nigger is a funny word. I'd probably be considered a hippie or something 10 years ago.

The vast majority of retarded Tech Support customers I've seen are white, I'm just noting that most I've personally see doing this particular super zoomed out photo are black, and in these particular cases I think it's intentionally done to show their expensive stuff or whatever.

I think it's related to their sneaker culture, like they show those off they show the monitor, audio interface, etc. It's not like it's just the screen, they zoom out so you can see the full thing + peripherals.

 

[Kiwi & Cow]

Scrollbars are not inherent to the underlying display protocol but on the toolkit that is built on top of it though.
Edit: I am curious about the window limitations and I would love to see a more detailed explanation if you remember when you heard this from (maybe a blog, whatever).

Nope, can't find the post again, I remember it was on a stack exchange site. I assume it's either gone or I'm not looking at the right places. DDG keeps showing me results about something called libinput, imwheel or xinput and that has nothing to do with what I'm looking for.
It also gave me this pajeet dogshit as a search result, so take of it what you will I guess: https://www.omglinux.com/customize-gnome-touchpad-gestures/
Hope you can find it.

please explain.

Well, basically, on Wayland you should be able to customise the scrollbar however you want like by increasing its width or making it smoother or slower. This is a thing that can be controlled via a file somewhere on the system meanwhile for the same effect on X11 you'd need an external program similarly to Windows. GNOME has mutter for example.
Note that I was a bit confused at first, but Mutter has 2 distinct purpose depending on if you're on X11 or Wayland.

Mutter is a Wayland display server and X11 window manager and compositor library.

https://mutter.gnome.org/

"Display server" like xsession? On X11 it's just a window manager.
Also KDE has Kwin, it kept showing up in searches so might aswell get a mention.

I'm fucking tired, spent hours trying to find the post which I couldn't find and spent even more hours trying to find the info on window managers to reply to the other comment. It's none of you guys fault, but fuck you for making me waste my time on this stupid bullshit made even stupider by pajeets and dipshit search engines.

 

[AmpleApricots]

Well, basically, on Wayland you should be able to customise the scrollbar however you want like by increasing its width or making it smoother or slower. This is a thing that can be controlled via a file somewhere on the system meanwhile for the same effect on X11 you'd need an external program similarly to Windows. GNOME has mutter for example.

That has nothing to do with X or wayland.

 

[Sperg Coalition]

Well, basically, on Wayland you should be able to customise the scrollbar however you want like by increasing its width or making it smoother or slower.

If the program uses GTK as a toolkit, its themes use CSS so you can easily modify the theme or apply changes via a user configuration file. Unless its a program like Firefox or Chromium for some reason: probably because they end up rendering almost everything client-side iirc.
On QT-based programs... I do not know.

As for the scroll bar sensitivity... It depends on how sensitive your mouse/touchpad/trackpad is.

 

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The vast majority of retarded Tech Support customers I've seen are white, I'm just noting that most I've personally see doing this particular super zoomed out photo are black, and in these particular cases I think it's intentionally done to show their expensive stuff or whatever.

I'd rather have a super zoomed out photo that might actually show the context of an error than a carefully cropped screenshot of solely an error alert box not showing what the user actually interacted with to induce it (for bonus points, this very clearly shows a 'show details' button or similar that was PAINSTAKINGLY not clicked on let alone had its contents copy and pasted out by the user reporting the error).

 

[AnOminous]

I'd rather have a super zoomed out photo that might actually show the context of an error

Like what, the crack pipe or 40 of Colt 45 on the table?

 

[Seasoned News Reporter]

Oh definitely, I'm not even racist, I just think nigger is a funny word. I'd probably be considered a hippie or something 10 years ago.

The vast majority of retarded Tech Support customers I've seen are white, I'm just noting that most I've personally see doing this particular super zoomed out photo are black, and in these particular cases I think it's intentionally done to show their expensive stuff or whatever.

I think it's related to their sneaker culture, like they show those off they show the monitor, audio interface, etc. It's not like it's just the screen, they zoom out so you can see the full thing + peripherals.

Yeah that's fair. Idk what it is about ghetto culture and taking photos of expensive shit to show off to everybody but it's a cemented thing now. I'll never understand it. Make me glad I like computers and nerd shit. Better that than drinking my liver to death or getting shot in a shitty club.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

Something that has been done for years by X11 window managers with built-in compositors so not much of an advantage.

It's been in development for 16 years so it's not new.

Maybe for stuff like mutter and other desktop environment window managers.

But I don't know of any standalone window managers that take care of compositing. Which are what I use. At least none of the ones I have tried do this (maybe while added it after enabling the use of it with Wayland but I haven't messed with that side of qtile. Usually you need to install picom, or another compositor.

And it's definitely new compared to xorg.

But really just saying it's 16 years old doesn't really mean much when a lot of the things people use with Wayland protocols are a lot newer than 16 years old. Since it's not like you are just running the Wayland-server. Like you are running the xorg-server with x11.

 

[analrapist]

because of flaws in most vendors’ UEFI implementations, it’s far from user friendly.

As a counterpoint, when vendors get it right, it makes Grub basically unnecessary. (ASUS B550)

I still have Grub because I boot random OSes and it gives me a little control, but the second I start building kernels for a machine, I usually produce a unified kernel image ( https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Unified_kernel_image -- I've been doing this on Debian for years without documentation like this, switch to Gentoo and realize they've made the process even easier. )

Get the modules split in just the right ways and you can really accelerate your boot.

 

[prollyanotherlurker]

No one cares about your retarded display protocol war please shut the fuck up

Nigger. Are you even an autist?