The Grinch (2018) - You're a lame one, Mister Grinch

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The Grinch re-remake seems to be doing pretty good box office but I can't help but feel that it would have had a true $100 million-plus blockbuster opening weekend if it only had been released two weeks later, on Black Friday.

I fully understand that Christmas-themed movies need to be released a month before Christmas to have a good chance to make a profit since they pretty much have to make all their money by December 25th as very few people want to see a Christmas movie on Boxing Day or thereafter, but November 9th seems a wee bit too early for a Christmas movie (though not as early as the Disney Nutcracker and the Four Realms flop, released a week earlier).

Black Friday seems like the ideal opening day for Christmas movies and I don't understand why studios don't hold off releasing Christmas movies until then, unless Hollywood thinks the wild Black Friday shopping sprees would depress the daily box office.
 
Black Friday seems like the ideal opening day for Christmas movies and I don't understand why studios don't hold off releasing Christmas movies until then, unless Hollywood thinks the wild Black Friday shopping sprees would depress the daily box office.

They've been starting Christmas earlier and earlier, after all. In a decade I expect to see Christmas stuff widely available a week before Halloween.
 
The Grinch re-remake seems to be doing pretty good box office but I can't help but feel that it would have had a true $100 million-plus blockbuster opening weekend if it only had been released two weeks later, on Black Friday.

I fully understand that Christmas-themed movies need to be released a month before Christmas to have a good chance to make a profit since they pretty much have to make all their money by December 25th as very few people want to see a Christmas movie on Boxing Day or thereafter, but November 9th seems a wee bit too early for a Christmas movie (though not as early as the Disney Nutcracker and the Four Realms flop, released a week earlier).

Black Friday seems like the ideal opening day for Christmas movies and I don't understand why studios don't hold off releasing Christmas movies until then, unless Hollywood thinks the wild Black Friday shopping sprees would depress the daily box office.
Whatever it "lost" on opening weekend, it will more than make up in legs going into the Christmas season.
 
Welp it alread has done nore than it's budget (75,000,000) in profit (91,3000,000) as of this post
That's decent enough, but when you take into account that the marketing requires double the official budget to break even they still have a way to go to be profitable. It might break even, especially with help from overseas audiences, but I don't think it's going to be a major blockbuster (read on).

The Grinch re-remake seems to be doing pretty good box office but I can't help but feel that it would have had a true $100 million-plus blockbuster opening weekend if it only had been released two weeks later, on Black Friday.

I fully understand that Christmas-themed movies need to be released a month before Christmas to have a good chance to make a profit since they pretty much have to make all their money by December 25th as very few people want to see a Christmas movie on Boxing Day or thereafter, but November 9th seems a wee bit too early for a Christmas movie (though not as early as the Disney Nutcracker and the Four Realms flop, released a week earlier).

Black Friday seems like the ideal opening day for Christmas movies and I don't understand why studios don't hold off releasing Christmas movies until then, unless Hollywood thinks the wild Black Friday shopping sprees would depress the daily box office.
Thanksgiving is a huge opening day for movies, and a lot of studios try to open on Thanksgiving because many people see movies on Thanksgiving (god knows it was our family tradition when I was young). Them releasing it two weeks ahead of Thanksgiving is a pretty good indication that despite the holiday season there's not much confidence in it and in particular they're intimidated by the Wreck-It Ralph sequel that opens on Thanksgiving. By releasing it two weeks before Thanksgiving they're obviously hoping to get as much money as they can before Thanksgiving because after that they're anticipating that Ralph Breaks the Internet is going to dominate the box office, and they're probably not wrong. Even Disney themselves released the Nutcracker well ahead of the holiday season because they know their real money-maker is Ralph and don't want anything to get in the way of it between Thanksgiving and New Years.
 
That's decent enough, but when you take into account that the marketing requires double the official budget to break even they still have a way to go to be profitable. It might break even, especially with help from overseas audiences, but I don't think it's going to be a major blockbuster (read on).


Thanksgiving is a huge opening day for movies, and a lot of studios try to open on Thanksgiving because many people see movies on Thanksgiving (god knows it was our family tradition when I was young). Them releasing it two weeks ahead of Thanksgiving is a pretty good indication that despite the holiday season there's not much confidence in it and in particular they're intimidated by the Wreck-It Ralph sequel that opens on Thanksgiving. By releasing it two weeks before Thanksgiving they're obviously hoping to get as much money as they can before Thanksgiving because after that they're anticipating that Ralph Breaks the Internet is going to dominate the box office, and they're probably not wrong. Even Disney themselves released the Nutcracker well ahead of the holiday season because they know their real money-maker is Ralph and don't want anything to get in the way of it between Thanksgiving and New Years.
Yeah i just included the movie making part of their expenses oh and :informative:
 
The actual Grinch supposed to be annoyed and detesting of the noise and celebration by thinking that it's just them antagonizing him.
Here, he's just a dick.

He's not even a dick in the actual movie, though. He's a simp, a whiny nerd who had to have some kind of lame TrAgIc backstory!!!!!!!! instead of being centered around what the Grinch actually symbolizes - the negative emotions and malaise we adults feel around the holidays. Consumerism laced with giddy platitudes about love and togetherness under a theme that, year after year, could strip the shine from a leather shoe. The Grinch is depicted like a complete asshole because of THIS reason. The character arc of the Grinch is like 5 minutes long - it goes by so quickly that you barely have time to register the foul stench coming from the laziness of the writers and anyone who had a hand in creating this.
An absolutely dreadful adaptation, and a cash grab that went lower than I possibly could've imagined. Dr. Seuss is enjoying his time fertilizing the earth rather than being forced to witness this shit.
 
He's a simp, a whiny nerd who had to have some kind of lame TrAgIc backstory!!!!!!!! instead of being centered around what the Grinch actually symbolizes - the negative emotions and malaise we adults feel around the holidays.
Considering how they did a similar thing with the Once-ler, the trainwreck Lorax fandom probably convinced them it was a good idea.

I watched the movie to see just how bad it was and the Grinch barely appears. It's more likely his scenes were that unmemorable, because when I try to remember the B-plot that was happening when the Grinch wasn't around I draw a blank. I might as well have been staring at a blank screen for an hour or so.

Also, in this version he decides to steal Christmas because he got triggered by Christmas and had Nam flashbacks to his so sad tragic backstory. This is the Current Year, everyone.
 
The Grinch is depicted like a complete asshole because of THIS reason. The character arc of the Grinch is like 5 minutes long - it goes by so quickly that you barely have time to register the foul stench coming from the laziness of the writers and anyone who had a hand in creating this.

Besides the crass commercialism with some of the cross-promotional tie-ins (Visa for Grinch 2000, 23 and Me for Grinch 2018 ), what bugs me the most about just the idea of Hollywood making two separate movies based on How the Grinch Stole Christmas is that the original book was very short, to the point where the less-obvious reason that the original TV special had a few songs was that they was "filler" because a straight adaptation of the book itself wouldn't quite fill 26 minutes. Not that I'm in any way implying that "You're a Mean One Mr. Grinch" isn't a classic song on its own merits even if its original purpose was to pad up the special to fill a half-hour time slot.

Given that the latest Grinch movie is 86 minutes long, well over three times the length of the original TV special, and Grinch 2000 was 106 minutes long, four times as long as How the Grinch Stole Christmas 1966, the film adaptations have to be mostly filler but it seems to be all filler that doesn't add anything worthwhile to the story unlike the songs from the TV special, and actually seems to retcon the whole character of the Grinch if the reactions I've seen here and elsewhere are any indication.
 
Well maybe they'll finally put something on Fox instead of having a 24/7 A Christmas story marathon. Although personally I'd prefer Gremlins
 
I would have preferred Benedict's voice acting as Smaug. At least that sounded evil.
This is a steaming pile of garbage and I hate how uptempo and uplifting they have to make it.
 
I was at a Cracker Barrel not too long ago, and they had Christmas merchandise in fucking October.

The Lowes and Home Depot had their Christmas stuff up since September 19th. Yes it was still summer and they had Christmas crap up
 
Saw it with my family, it was....fine. like a 5/10. Probably will never see it again, but it was nothing too terrible. Better than the Lorax, and Wreck it Ralph, 2, funny enough.

That's pretty vague tbqh. What about it made it a mediocre, yet forgettable film? Was there anything about it you liked as well as didn't like? What was the highlight of the film for you?
 
I think a lot of it came down to low expectations, I saw prior Illumination movies, I read this thread, I was ready to hate it, and it's just kinda meh.

Couple of fast gags that show how much of a dick the grinch is got me to chuckle. The message is mostly intact and not fucked up unlike The Lorax. The movie is pretty short, or feels like it is, which is good and bad.

They added a subplot about Cindy Lou Who and her friends trying to catch santa that doesn't go anywhere, there's a fat reindeer who's in a couple of scenes, stuff like that.

The Orphanage scene definitely hurts the movie and is uneeded. It's just the Grinch as a kid walking around and looking sadly at christmas things, and feels cheap.
 
I saw a promotional thing with Nu-Grinch using a voice controlled TV and in the end watches "The Secret Life of Pets" and chuckles at the rabbit shitting scene.

"Hey guys! Aren't we just awesome??"- Illumination.

Ugh. Would love to see these corporate hacks get knocked down a peg.
 
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