The Grinch (2018) - You're a lame one, Mister Grinch

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CWCissey dijo:
What happened to The Grinch that's just a colossal arsehole? Why do we need further motivations?
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The Grinch doesn't need explaining. I think an important part of his character is that kids don't understand why he hates Christmas whereas parents absolutely sympathize with him because they know how stressful the holidays can be. That's what makes him timeless.
 
Funny story, I actually do media research for some extra cash and part of that is surveys about upcoming movies, pilots and the like, and this film came up with no context one time.

I literally ripped into it, saying the only thing possibly worse to be shat out by CG was Minions... only to find out this gem was also from Illumination.

I made sure to append it with, "But at least they're consistent."
 
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I saw the trailer and was just baffled by too many things.

Why is the Grinch going to the grocery store? Isn't he supposed to be an outcast and a pariah? Even the live action version got this right.

And why is he so slapsticky? Isn't The Grinch supposed to be kind of intimidating? I mean they did get BORIS F'ING KARLOFF to be the original voice, so an element of fear and menace was clearly the intent. And Benedict Cumberbatch? That's great casting...so why does he sound and act so silly?
 
Based on the ads for this movie, I guessed that this Grinch loves twerking, quoting memes, and taking selfies.

"That is SO going on Grinchstagram! #meanonemrgrinch"
 
RumblyTumbly dijo:
I saw the trailer and was just baffled by too many things.

Why is the Grinch going to the grocery store? Isn't he supposed to be an outcast and a pariah? Even the live action version got this right.
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I don't recall that they ever stated that in the book, though.

It's probably not good, but by virtue of not being the Jim Carrey version, it's better than that was. Then again, the Jim Carrey version was so fucking bad anything would be better than that was.
 
Steamboat_Bill dijo:
I don't recall that they ever stated that in the book, though.

It's probably not good, but by virtue of not being the Jim Carrey version, it's better than that was. Then again, the Jim Carrey version was so fucking bad anything would be better than that was.
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In the book it's implied he's a social pariah and in both the Chuck Jones Special and Halloween is Grinch Night he's shown to basically be a cross between Henry B. Swap and Ernest T. Bass, both of who are loners.
 
The Jim Carrey movie feels like something out of a really horrible dream.

But with that said, even that movie at least had some effort put into the costumes, set, makeup, etc. I don't see any here. From what I've heard, they've REALLY cut off the Grinch's balls in this movie. And I'd rather have a nasty mugging screeching Jim Carrey Grinch than a sassy shut in ex-drama teacher Grinch.
 
Even more than the trailer for the Detective Pikachu film, this feels like a movie that was assembled using algorithms based on what IP remakes in the past were successful, and adding in a formula for that sort of generic, "4th wall breaking", self-aware humor that has become all to pervasive in modern pop culture - when almost everyone else is doing it, and doing it in ways that are so slavishly formulaic it doesn't stand out except to make you aware of how generic and hack it's usage has been for the past couple of decades.
 
Except there's a clear difference between the two. One was created by a tiny percentage of fans who really love the source material and were so honored to be a part of the project that they put all their hearts and souls into making it despite its silly premise, all with no guarantee it was going to be accepted by everyone else. The other was manufactured by corporate suits who have no respect for the source material and only saw dollar signs due to name recognition, then had it thrust upon their overworked underlings who were whipped into forcing a beloved, timeless character to be obnoxiously humiliated in many out-of-character ways.

Both will make their money back, but only one of them will have earned the profit the most earnestly.
 
Bread Fetishist dijo:
And I thought the guy who was horny for Elastigirl in his Incredibles 2 review was weird.
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At least in that case the character was an adult woman, here i don't fet wgat the hell is being saisd except that it hurts my eyes tpo read

Welp it alread has done nore than it's budget (75,000,000) in profit (91,3000,000) as of this post
 
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Kari Kamiya dijo:
Except there's a clear difference between the two. One was created by a tiny percentage of fans who really love the source material and were so honored to be a part of the project that they put all their hearts and souls into making it despite its silly premise, all with no guarantee it was going to be accepted by everyone else. The other was manufactured by corporate suits who have no respect for the source material and only saw dollar signs due to name recognition, then had it thrust upon their overworked underlings who were whipped into forcing a beloved, timeless character to be obnoxiously humiliated in many out-of-character ways.

Both will make their money back, but only one of them will have earned the profit the most earnestly.
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My dad and I kinda love the live action one because of just how fucking weird it is. This one was bland.
 
The Carrey version, while bad, at least displayed some level of effort.

I mean you look at the costumes and the sets and you see that real work went into that thing. And the actors, God bless them, certainly tried, and hey Anthony Hopkins as the narrator actually kind of works. And Carrey had to be in the makeup chair for God knows how long and while he can't seem to settle on annoying goofball or Karloff impression, he at least has a performance that shines through the suit and makeup, The Grinch feels alive and animated.

Oddly enough, the live action film made the same mistake that Rob Zombie's Halloween did in that it gave us a backstory we never needed or wanted, but hey, at least they tried.

This new one just screams cash grab all the way.

Now what I would do with a Grinch movie? Instead of just doing a Christmas film, why not do "A Year of The Grinch" film and have him tackle every major Holiday? Have him try to ruin everything from New Years to Easter to Halloween to Thanksgiving to Christmas, and just have him troll the Whos all year round and he does it year after year after year. And have it all blow up in his face in that he becomes so prevalent during the Holidays, that he essentially becomes a celebrated tradition himself and The Whos come to love his antics as part of the Holiday celebration.
 
RumblyTumbly dijo:
I saw the trailer and was just baffled by too many things.

Why is the Grinch going to the grocery store? Isn't he supposed to be an outcast and a pariah? Even the live action version got this right.

And why is he so slapsticky? Isn't The Grinch supposed to be kind of intimidating? I mean they did get BORIS F'ING KARLOFF to be the original voice, so an element of fear and menace was clearly the intent. And Benedict Cumberbatch? That's great casting...so why does he sound and act so silly?
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Because Illumination. All they know is slapstick comedy and toilet humor.
 
RumblyTumbly dijo:
Now what I would do with a Grinch movie? Instead of just doing a Christmas film, why not do "A Year of The Grinch" film and have him tackle every major Holiday? Have him try to ruin everything from New Years to Easter to Halloween to Thanksgiving to Christmas, and just have him troll the Whos all year round and he does it year after year after year. And have it all blow up in his face in that he becomes so prevalent during the Holidays, that he essentially becomes a celebrated tradition himself and The Whos come to love his antics as part of the Holiday celebration.
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They already did Halloween.
 
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