The Grand Tour - The BBC got bitchslapped. HARD.

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So remember how everyone loved Top Gear when it was presented by Jeremy Clarkson, Richard Hammond and James May? And how it got retooled after Clarkson got fired for punching a producer because he couldn't get a steak? And how the BBC really thought that annoying speccy ginger twat who was briefly funny in the 90's and Joey from Friends plus 5 useless twats that were really there to up the diversity quota would be a good replacement?

Well the Amazon Prime 'fuck you' to traditional media hit last night. Anyone else watch it?
 
I watched it yesterday as soon as I saw Amazon had released it. It was much much better than that shit-tier new Top Gear. I think it may even be better than old top gear just from the fact that have a bigger budget and can say whatever they want to, it seems. My favorite line from episode one was Jeremy and Richard shit talking each others cars and Jeremy goes "My car is like high grade heroin, and yours is iffy weed".

Probably wouldn't have heard something like that on the BBC.
 
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I watched it yesterday as soon as I saw Amazln had released it. It was much much better than that shit-tier new Top Gear. I think it may even be better than old top gear just from the fact that have a bigger budget and can say whatever they want to, it seems. My favorite line from episode one was Jeremy and Richard shit talking each others cars and Jeremy goes "My car is like high grade heroin, and yours is iffy weed".

Probably wouldn't have heard something like that on the BBC.

Mine was 'We're like gypsies, but the cars we drive are insured'

DEFINITELY wouldn't have heard that on the BBC.
 
Damn I wish this thread could get some more love. But yeah I love the Grand Tour. I used to watch Top Gear a lot in high school, but dropped off somewhere along the way before the producer punching incident. I'm currently watching season 4 of the Grand Tour and it has been a definite improvement from the old show on the BBC in terms of their budget and creativity. I especially like the new Fury Focus Hammond was driving even though it was functionally useless off road. It's great to see these three blokes doing what they love just like the early days of Top Gear.

I would still argue this is an interesting show even for people not that interested in cars. The exotic locations they visit, along with the humor and good production value really sell the show.

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Clarkson's Farm is a lovely little piece of television. It's just Jezza trying to make a farm functional and chaos of course ensues.

Really can't say how thankful I am that I never had to be a livestock farmer, it seems to be tiring and heartbreaking as hell to care greatly for a dumb animal like Sheep only for it to wind up being someone's dinner.
 
This just popped into my feed and I felt I needed to share it:
>first two words are literally 'the patriarchy'
Can't make this shit up lmao.
Don't give the Guardian clicks, quote that drivel
I had high hopes for this diplomatic incident masquerading as a TV travelogue through Scotland. Fingers crossed, patriarchy’s answer to Katie Hopkins and the Cheeky Girls would get chucked out of Scotland just as they were from Argentina while filming Top Gear. During that 2014 debacle, Jeremy Clarkson, James May and Richard Hammond were attacked for driving a Porsche whose number plate – H982 FKL – was deemed a reference to Britain’s victory in the 1982 Falklands conflict. In the resulting unpleasantness, the three presenters took a helicopter to safety, like the last chopper out of Saigon, leaving the crew to defend that oxymoron, British honour.

Indeed, there is surely nothing more apt to make Nicola Sturgeon unleash the ancestral claymore than the sight of three English muppets in gas-guzzling Yank tanks (Lincoln Continental, Cadillac Coupe de Ville and Buick Riviera, each more productive of Greta Thunberg’s tears than a cormorant with its beak stuck in a can of Irn-Bru) heading north from Berwick-upon-Tweed.

As soon as the convoy passed the border, the scripted bants began. “Welcome to McScotland,” said Clarkson into his walkie talkie, while May and Hammond cackled like fiftysomething Beavis and Butt-Heads in their vehicles. Why the McPlods (oh dear, this is catching) didn’t ticket the infantilised Murdoch lackey for driving while using a handheld device is beyond me. Presumably, normal rules of the road were waived for this Amazon production, which is not something I imagine the first minister signing off on. If Donald Trump can build golf resorts in Aberdeenshire and Clarkson can roll through the majestic Highlands babbling anti-Scottish slurs and manifold fatuities, clearly her powers to stymie toxic middle-aged man-babies realising their unedifying dreams need enhancing.

‘Welcome to McScotland’ ... The Grand Tour: Lochdown. Photograph: Amazon Prime
PG Wodehouse once claimed it was not hard to tell the difference between a Scotsman with a grievance and a sunbeam. May embellished this theme, suggesting that Scottish police officers never have occasion to say “You’re nicked, sunshine” because – do you see the punchline yet? – there is no sun in Scotland. To be fair, the permadrizzle was unrelenting.

And then there were the meals, prepared by May, in which every item from kipper to carrot was battered. That said, Clarkson cleared his plate and Hammond hailed Scottish culinary genius for congealing peas, so tricky to eat with a fork, into battered clumps.

As a white, increasingly desiccated middle-aged Englishman, I should be in The Grand Tour’s demographic. But I’d rather read Iris Murdoch than watch Clarkson’s belly shot in profile wobbling from Auchtermuchty to Drumnadrochit in sync with the undulating terrain (proof that spending one’s career on, effectively, a series of La-Z-Boys on wheels is deleterious to one’s posture). If I were a middle-aged Scotsman, I’d have been further affronted by the carnage wrought on my homeland. Let’s review: three wrecked caravans, one left unacceptably in a wooded glen; the appalling fumes; the walls in Edinburgh’s old town; the boat sunk off the Hebrides; a pontoon bridge left bobbing off North Uist. None of the trio spoke to a Scottish person on screen, demonstrating, once again, how tourism narrows the English mind.

But what would have narked me most of all if I were Scottish was that my country was here busted down to an away venue for a proxy war between the US and the Soviet Union. Which of these two polities was responsible for manufacturing the worst car known to humankind, Clarkson asked. Oh, obviously the Soviets, you reply. Have you ever tried to put a Lada through hairpin? Of course you haven’t, because the Queen Mary has a tighter turning circle.

In truth, Clarkson was right about one thing in his life: the worst car in the world is American. In a field, six cars including two Chryslers and a Pontiac Aztek raced in circles in a kind of ground-based balloon race cum demolition derby. The loser would be the first car to crash out. It was the Pontiac (a car so terrible it figured in Breaking Bad as Walter White’s ride of choice to show what a loser he was) that was proven – scientifically, mind – to be the world’s worst car.

As the credits rolled, there was time to reflect on the show’s genius. Its success will be measured not by ratings, but by a spike in support for Scottish independence. It makes the SNP’s case more powerfully than Boris Johnson on a meet and greet in Sauchiehall Street. Watching this, Sturgeon must be laughing harder than she did during the England-Italy penalty shootout. Way to break up the union, you McPlums.

Fun fact, the "they never spoke to a Scottish person on screen" is a lie. Unless the few individual they did speak to were not Scottish. However someone with a brain might realise the reason why they did not speak to many people is because it was filmed during lockdown.

I believe it's meant to be a comedy review. It falls very flat but Guardian readers will enjoy it.
The special itself was alright. Decent set of laughs, for being filmed during lockdown they managed fairly well and showed off quite a bit of Scotland many would never see.
Edited to add - someone in the comments section caught the writer out. He word for word reused the British honour joke from his own prior article about the same incident
Will they take in Argentina? After all, the three stooges caused a diplomatic incident there during filming for Top Gear in 2013. They were attacked for turning up with a Porsche whose number plate – H982 FKL – was seen as a reference to Britain’s victory in the 1982 Falklands conflict. In the resulting unpleasantness, the three presenters took a helicopter to safety. It was embarrassing, not least because it was left to the more modestly paid crew to remain behind with the cars and defend that oxymoron, British honour. “On the whole, we had a very nice time in Argentina,” says May. “ It was only that bit at the bottom where we were very badly misunderstood. So yes I’m sure we would go back. We haven’t planned to, though.”
 
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I couldn't give much of a shit about cars, but the Clarkson, May and Hammond years of Top Gear were must-see television. The Grand Tour is a good successor, though the scripting is a little more obvious, and part of me wonders if the move to specials only is a sign of the thing breaking down already? Or was the 'Top Gear magazine format but with tweaks' that irrelevant to the spectacle of three old guys messing about and butting heads in cars?

Clarkson's Farm is a lovely little piece of television. It's just Jezza trying to make a farm functional and chaos of course ensues.

Really can't say how thankful I am that I never had to be a livestock farmer, it seems to be tiring and heartbreaking as hell to care greatly for a dumb animal like Sheep only for it to wind up being someone's dinner.

I watched the first two episodes, to be honest it felt like misery porn after the first. I bet the pandemic episode is a real hoot.
 
I couldn't give much of a shit about cars, but the Clarkson, May and Hammond years of Top Gear were must-see television. The Grand Tour is a good successor, though the scripting is a little more obvious, and part of me wonders if the move to specials only is a sign of the thing breaking down already? Or was the 'Top Gear magazine format but with tweaks' that irrelevant to the spectacle of three old guys messing about and butting heads in cars?
At least for me, the formula is getting a little more apparent. Start with introducing the cars/gimmick, first initial challenge for mayhem (the caravans), the cars break down, modify the cars for yuks, end with a challenge that forces the three to cooperate, final destination is not what they expected. Rinse and repeat.

It still works because the three of them have amazing chemistry but I dunno, it felt like this one fell a bit flat compared to previous adventures. I don't think they have more than one or two left in them before it gets really tired.
 
It still works because the three of them have amazing chemistry but I dunno, it felt like this one fell a bit flat compared to previous adventures. I don't think they have more than one or two left in them before it gets really tired.
If you do like them mixing it up with some Drive Tribe stuff might help there, it's their Youtube channel and there's fairly regular stuff. It helps feel like you're seeing more of an actual series rather than the more heavily scripted stuff.

It has also has a fascinatingly odd video of James and Richard building Lego, answering car questions and drinking "competitively" which is an odd one to watch for a bit, though probably not the full length.

I watched the first two episodes, to be honest it felt like misery porn after the first. I bet the pandemic episode is a real hoot.
In some ways it is meant to be a bit misery porn-like. Farming can be a nightmare at times and Clarkson is a bit of a burke but it is also showing a more human side of him. Bear in mind too though that it is all hammed up for the camera so it's nowhere near as extreme as it seems.

Except for that one guy's accent. That's been improved slightly for the American audience.
 
lochdown was a snoozefest. i blame covid restrictions but the formula deffo showing age i find it funny that may and jezza have done well with their individual amazon shows while hammond has schlock.
Last thing I saw Hamster in was that Science Of Stupid, which is pretty much just Brainiac: Science Abuse for the YouTube generation.
 
Lochdown was alright but it looked a little too manufactured and the cars weren't that interesting. Based ending though.
The fact they all rolled out with 18+foot cars and then added caravans was faintly funny. The crossing the water was fascinating to watch. As you say it was very manufactured but for anyone new to them it'd likely be amusing enough. Hopefully they do something a bit more like the dune buggies or the Seamen special next, they need to do something slightly more out there.
 
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