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Seriously. People that think that's no big deal because they're Arab. What the fuck do you think makes you better as a white person at that point. If you act, and think exactly like a kike, or a towelhead yourself, at that point what the fuck difference does it make if you have white skin? I would say the same about some wigger pretending to be some kind of white supremacist. Mean while they act like a nigger, chimp out, etc. If you just end up doing all the shit the other races do, again what makes you better then them?
Idk I'm trying to find the right way to phrase this. Basically I think we should have standards. Not having basic human decency isn't white behavior. If I thought it was fine for anyone who's white to act like a heartless Jew, why would I even care at that point? But idk maybe its just because I was raised thinking inflicting needless suffering upon people is horrifying, and its not right to steal from people, kill them, you know basic western values (I wouldn't even say those are western values, just human decency)
Supremacy ideology is only truly held by jews [at least racially*], all other interracial beefs boil down to "I don't like that guy" 1Mx. The normal beef reasons are cultural and behavioral, and were easily distinguished when the nation was synonymous with the race, you know, the good old days. Loving White people and wanting the best for us means exactly what you stated, holding people to high standards. I don't see that as supremacy, but common sense.
*Abrahamically, jews & muslims both practice carny ethics and have religious get out of jail free cards to rip off outsiders. It's a good reason to look askance at them, and could be viewed as supremacy on the part of muslims as well, but they're officially universalist.
The old as time "im not jewish and get mad if you say I am but somehow all my opinions are exactly the same as a jews". If only there wasn't a long history of jews hating to be properly identified.
I was just pointing out how wierd it is to see a goy, say "blood libel". The performative racism is the bullshit I read from you in this thread. It's hatred without sense behind it It's completely performative as far as I'm concerned, and I've explained why. If you actually gave a fuck about Muslims flooding the west, you would be able to understand why Israel is a problem. Instead of trying to defend Israel targeting hospitals (which by the way, they've targetted civilians, medical workers, and journalists in more than just gaza).
Judging based on what their UN ambassador says. I don't think they give a single fuck about killing civilians. They are perfectly willing to claim anyone in an entire region of a country is Hezbollah, so therefore anyone they kill must be Hezbollah. Meanwhile they been committing war crimes (which the UN has recognized at this point). Targeting journalists, ambulances is by all definitions a war crime.
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There is an abundance of evidence that they are doing these things. This is just to show you what they, themselves will say.
Imagine a foreign goverment tells you, you need to leave your home, and anyone that doesn't is a terrorist, and they use that to justify bombing people that decided to stay behind in they place they've always lived. First, how would it not be justified for those people to not hate Israel with every fiber of their being, second how could anyone hear what these people say and believe for a second they give a fuck about civilians. They call ANYONE they kill a terrorist, just like they call anyone who calls out their bullshit an antisemite, or a jew hater. They do it because retards believe them, and they keep getting away with it.
It's performative. you've gone on, and on about muslims. But what is the solution you would suggest? do you have one? What led to the flood of muslims to the west if it has nothing to do with what I've said? If you can't think about things in terms beyond, I don't like these people, so they should have their countries destroyed by the jews. What else would that be? If you are going to defend the thing that is partially responsible for them moving into white countries, yeah you are definitely unserious.
At some point in your life, you should really learn to communicate like less of an annoying faggot. Instead of assigning me positions I do not hold from the false equivalences you shoehorn in, you could just ask clarifying questions instead of battering strawmen.
I'm relatively new to the JQ, but find much of the anti-Semitism I've seen to be very low IQ and retarded; off-puttingly so. Like, "Palestine" is non-existent, Islam is a cancer, and I support Israel's claim to their country and don't believe any of the "genocide" claims of the muzzies. So whenever people start defending the Arabs and suggest the IDF are terrorists, I just tune out because there's nothing verifying those claims that I've seen.
The British Mandate is not a literal country called Palestine, retarded faggots. "Palestinian" is the same as something like Seattleite or San Franciscan or New Yorker. It's just referring to the location, not a group of people or an actual place. Yes, Jews would be "Palestinian" in this context, destroying your own point.
Yes, genocidal terrorists should not be allowed the means to murder their neighbors. I want them to have zero power because Islam is dog shit. This isn't a hard concept to grasp. The hospitals are absolutely used to conduct terror so I don't give a fuck that they're viable military targets. That's on the Muslims, though they love it. I don't have to like Israel or Jews to correctly understand very basic things about how Muslims operate.
Nigger do you not understand the implication of the things you were arguing for? or are you just playing dumb? If you are arguing that the Israelis have the right to do what they are doing, you are arguing for them to be the super power of the region. You understand that right? The entire goal of Israels actions, beyond forming a jewish ethonostate (which i could give a fuck about), is destabilizing every neighboring country, or putting in a leader that is "friendly" to them. And they've used our young men, money, and power to accomplish this by bribing, and influencing our political system.
Read the clean break, read up, or look up videos about the way Israel themselves will fund Islamic militant groups in order to accomplish their goals in the region. They were a major factor in what pulled us into the war in Iraq, and our involvement in many of the middle eastern countries. It's been a giant money sink, it's gotten our own people killed, and it's done NOTHING to help us. But it's followed the clean break strategy to a T. And beyond that, like I've said repeatedly it's one of the insighting factors for the displacement of large numbers of muslims into the west. At this point, unless the government of Israel is changed from the bottom up, them having any power, and especially influence within the US is bad for us. You don't have to like muslims to not like what Israel is doing, and I've said elsewhere on the site, while everyone was going on about how bad jeets are at the time, muslims are worse. I have no love for them. That's why I want them OVER THERE. I promise you, continuing the destabilization, invasions, and constant soft and hard power plays in the region is not going to help the west with this problem.
And yeah. people here are going to say you're a jew, if you are coming in this thread repeating Israeli talking points. Whether you know you are doing it or not.
And by the way, I said what I thought your were, and it isn't a jew. You seem like a retard completely caught up in the faggy fake, and gay culture war propoganda, probably a die hard Trump follower that is finally willing to look at the jews because now that Israels actions that go directly against our interests have gotten so blatant that Trump, and Vance have had to publicly say something finally, and now the GOP grifters are finally able to put on kiddie gloves to talk about the jews (the ones that aren't jews themselves, they will continue saying the same shit you've said until they die).
These days it is called the Jerusalem Talmud for obvious reasons. But for 1,700+ years, it was called the Palestinian Talmud. Seems odd to say Palestine never existed while naming one of their holiest texts after it. But Persons of Kikeness claimed we have been at war with Iran for 47 years so to them, it’s okay to just make shit up if they think goyim will spill blood for them.
You have no questions to ask, you just came into this thread with the intention to finger wag against people and defend israel with false or exaggerated information. Whatever I said can easily be googled and found on mainstream sources like Wikipedia, Haaretz and whatnot. Most of the sources cited in this thread are legit and not one sided possibly kooky opinion pieces from the likes of Martin Luther, William Pierce, Eustace Mullins, the Big H and whatnot. That is one reason why I never speak about Weimar cause I do not have enough good sources to back up what I say. If youre actually good faith like you claim you are, just read more and consider what people say objectively before doing your fake faggot finger wagging. Thats all I will say. In Antisemitism we must always aim for the objective verifiable truth cause thats the only thing which will grant any legitimacy in a very steep uphill battle. And we should never use it to hurt people who dont deserve it.
I think you are just such a retard that someone with axiomatic principles looks so crazy to you. I wasn't even defending Israel or Jews on anything beyond what I said: Muslim faggots 100% conduct their jihad in hospitals, making them viable military targets. I do not care that the IDF levels their buildings. Apparently understanding the rules for war makes me Jewish, I guess. I know very little about Israel or Jews in general, but spent a while reading up after 10/7. You're all Muslim dickriders simping for "Palestine" far, far more than I'm on Team Israel. You do indeed sound like leftist redditors.
Most spots I've stuck to on KF have many knowledgeable and intelligent people contributing. I have been reading more about the JQ lately and had some questions I wanted to ask. This thread does not have those kinds of people, in my opinion, so I'll dip. People ITT have a teenager's thoughts on Muslim migration to Western societies. Y'all probably think the whole "if we kill 2 terrorists, 4 more just pop up!" crap.
For fairness's sake I'll only reply to the points you made in reply to me. I'd like to think I have a decent general education and knowledge of the slightly more esoteric stuff, which the JQ certainly qualifies as for the general populace. Many on the Farms and this tread especially are the same or have delved much deeper (or are simply severely autistic about this special interest), so I don't really follow. I am sure the overwhelming majority of this thread would place at least a large part of the responsibility for today's mass immigration to the West at the feet of the Jews, be it as multicultural forethinkers, as bankers who have essentially completely separated money from any kind of tangible value, thus requiring constant consumption, thus ideally unthinking, uncritical bodies to provide it, or, if you want to go back in history, as injectors of materialist liberal thought into the Western mainstream, be it through Marxism or the flipside with Rand and her ilk.
So, the Muslims. Many know that the first foreign war the US got themselves into was against the Barbary States, who of course in Islamic tradition simply raided any and all Western, that is Christian shipping and coastal villages. Up until modernity, the Islamic World was seen as foreign and hostile and only rarely were there even slightly positive interactions with it. Our now thoroughly perverted sense of Christian morality has unfortunately led us from the correct base assumption that even Arabs, nigs, 'jeets and all the like are worthy and capable of redemption, but we have stripped their need to actually "buy in" to use a profane analogy. Instead we have this concept of universal citizenship in the modern state, not at all coincidentally really cemented through Napoleon and his single worst decision, the Emancipation of the Jews. So this single mistake still haunts us and is continuously being cemented by *them*. Up until a short time ago, most Europeans and I wager most Americans too would not even have thought that there could possibly be any kind of alternative to Liberal Democracy. End of History, etc, etc. Why this entire rant? Well, at the risk of sounding all hippy-dippy, society used to be understood as an interconnected totality, a good Politeia, but now everything's atomized, private, anonymous for better or worse, and so you can't expect mass movement on questions of identity like the Muzzie issue just to pop up.
Besides, apart from the odd brownoid that might indeed have snuck in here, I highly doubt many here hold truly positive opinions on Islam. Sure, you get people like Guénon, who chud'd out too hard because he understood how metaphysically fucked the West was (and still is), but that's a rarity.
Yes. I agree, though blacks are a problem right now that must be addressed. They fuck up a lot more than what is visible, but I would agree they are not playing chess. But you are speaking as if I was sold on the JQ and avoided it or something. It is indeed hiding in the background so not as easy to spot. And when the proponents of it act like the clowns above, people are naturally repelled.
While the other retards were insulting me for posting the LLM thoughts in-between answering, I was trying to highlight the obvious sensitivity toward me nearing toward the JQ. The built-in anti-white bias across LLMs and every leftist publication is a big issue for me and a big part of why I hate leftists. Apparently that makes me Jewish, too.
Either way, I'm sure I can find a different thread somewhere else. I feel like I'm talking to a bunch of retarded Muslims or white college kids in a drum circle.
I recently against better judgement ventured into Kike Central, aka USGP2, because a sponsored post kind of ticked me off about how Muslims are the devil and the JQ was a distraction at most. Obviously my opinions are not welcome there, so I farmed trashcans, but the exchange did end on a slightly positive note, so discourse is possible and should not be avoided. I think we are too focused on picking out specific Jews instead of understanding the whole metaphysical West of modernity to be kiked out. Thus examples like the one you provide may appear banal to most of us or as some sort of "fellow whites" spiel.
It'd be difficult to find a greater Antisemite than myself even in this thread, but that does not mean that I blindly want every single Jew to die or that I close my eyes to Muslim/Indian/African barbarity just because I find them to be symptoms in the West, rather than causes. I think early Bri'ish Chud Extraordinaire Johnathan Bowden (himself not unproblematic) still put it most elegantly: "CLEAR THEM OUT!"
I am sure the overwhelming majority of this thread would place at least a large part of the responsibility for today's mass immigration to the West at the feet of the Jews, be it as multicultural forethinkers, as bankers who have essentially completely separated money from any kind of tangible value, thus requiring constant consumption, thus ideally unthinking, uncritical bodies to provide it, or, if you want to go back in history, as injectors of materialist liberal thought into the Western mainstream, be it through Marxism or the flipside with Rand and her ilk.
I dont believe its completely out of a hatred of other races or some superiority complex cause your average jew is not a fully conscious actor who knows why they do what they do. Theyre simply followers of some sort, like most of jews always have been. Its the Kevin McDonald school of thought, where I believe they do the subversive things as an evolutionary defense mechanism, partly anyways. Partly they probably do it cause theres always been a drive, biological or not, in Jewish people to be transgressive in thought and action, one of the few positive things about them. Thats why they have historically had a lot of infighting and arguments, why there are common jewish phrases like "Two Jews, three opinions" and the reason why the Talmud exists. The Talmud, as much as it has disgusting material, is a basically book of debates between rabbis throughout a thousand years and more about interpretations of religious law. Theyre quite intelligent and clever people and if they didnt do the isolationist manipulative crap and instead opened themselves up to some extent so everyone may benefit from their interactions, people wouldnt hate them as much. Also, as much as constant consumption is considered Jewish, I would say endless economic growth is sort of a white thing, at least historically. Europeans have always been explorers, pioneers and frontiersman throughout history, expansionists at any cost. Only after the 20th century, when they started to get blamed for everything and expansionism blew up in their face, did it go away and people sorta became more isolationist. This is not to say other ethnic groups are not expansionist but it is to say that endless economic growth, as a model comes from expansionism, its sort of the reason why the frontier expanded westward in America and the various Companies pursued colonialism. I would also say that this expansionist drive is why Christianity advocates for proselytism but thats for another thread.
Besides, apart from the odd brownoid that might indeed have snuck in here, I highly doubt many here hold truly positive opinions on Islam. Sure, you get people like Guénon, who chud'd out too hard because he understood how metaphysically fucked the West was (and still is), but that's a rarity.
I think many westerners do not really have a complete view of Islamic culture and history and only know it from the Crusades onwards when it became shit. Islamic Civilization has a lot to appreciate, especially in how it intersected with mediterranean cultures of the time, especially Greece. The Arabs were some of the first people to explore Africa proper, beyond Egypt and south of the Sahara. They were some of the first to invent and use Algebra which is cool. The first prosperous desert civilization after the Egyptians, basically made the Middle East into hub of global trade. They were some of the first people to invent methods of mass resource storage, temperature control and improve upon cooking and such (many milk foods we know today like cheese and such were either found by the Arabs or developed on by them due to the way milk was handled in the desert. Theres also a theory that Pasta and variants of it were derived from what the Arabs bought to southern europe). Ofc they have a rich and immense history of literary contributions, from Umar Khayyam to the Arabian Nights. Medieval Persia was a force to be reckoned with with how prosperous it was. Idk what happened but the Crusades and the Ottomans onwards, they became a bunch of backward goat fucking idiots who took their shitty religion way too seriously. Idk if its cause their genetics got diluted from inbreeding or something similar. I would say the Jews have a lot of great stuff about them as well, even if theyve become shitty after the fall of the Roman Empire. Rich contributions to philosophy and literature, among other things. As much as people think Jews hate Christianity, some of the first Christians were Jewish and followed Jewish customs, for almost 100 years, till about 100AD at which point they decided expanding to Gentiles was necessary to thrive, especially in the face of Jewish persecution and Roman oppression. There was an entire story about this from the Americans, Ben Hur, must be familiar to people.
I dont believe its completely out of a hatred of other races or some superiority complex cause your average jew is not a fully conscious actor who knows why they do what they do. Theyre simply followers of some sort, like most of jews always have been. Its the Kevin McDonald school of thought, where I believe they do the subversive things as an evolutionary defense mechanism, partly anyways. Partly they probably do it cause theres always been a drive, biological or not, in Jewish people to be transgressive in thought and action, one of the few positive things about them. Thats why they have historically had a lot of infighting and arguments, why there are common jewish phrases like "Two Jews, three opinions" and the reason why the Talmud exists. The Talmud, as much as it has disgusting material, is a basically book of debates between rabbis throughout a thousand years and more about interpretations of religious law. Theyre quite intelligent and clever people and if they didnt do the isolationist manipulative crap and instead opened themselves up to some extent so everyone may benefit from their interactions, people wouldnt hate them as much.
True, there is of course hierarchy among the small hats and the constant infighting is well-attested even in Scripture. Strange pagan rituals, Moloch/Baal worship, the works. "No good knives are made from bad steel", right? I suppose a mostly theocratic society as was theirs is of course very good at administrative tasks so the weird symbiotic/parasitic thing their elite had and has going on with ours can be seen as a deterministic evolution of sorts.
Also, as much as constant consumption is considered Jewish, I would say endless economic growth is sort of a white thing, at least historically. Europeans have always been explorers, pioneers and frontiersman throughout history, expansionists at any cost. Only after the 20th century, when they started to get blamed for everything and expansionism blew up in their face, did it go away and people sorta became more isolationist. This is not to say other ethnic groups are not expansionist but it is to say that endless economic growth, as a model comes from expansionism, its sort of the reason why the frontier expanded westward in America and the various Companies pursued colonialism. I would also say that this expansionist drive is why Christianity advocates for proselytism but thats for another thread.
I agree somewhat, but not entirely. Consumerism is a thing of modernity, before which corporatism abounded in Western societies. Not quite a smelly Jeet caste system, but a very clear understanding where one stood and all on the back of an economy of need instead of want. Ironically based Ford kind of drove the final nail into that, which Bernays and his ilk jumped on. The West is more expansionist or rather curious, less risk-averse on average, I'd say, that's true.
I think many westerners do not really have a complete view of Islamic culture and history and only know it from the Crusades onwards when it became shit. Islamic Civilization has a lot to appreciate, especially in how it intersected with mediterranean cultures of the time, especially Greece. The Arabs were some of the first people to explore Africa proper, beyond Egypt and south of the Sahara. They were some of the first to invent and use Algebra which is cool. The first prosperous desert civilization after the Egyptians, basically made the Middle East into hub of global trade. They were some of the first people to invent methods of mass resource storage, temperature control and improve upon cooking and such (many milk foods we know today like cheese and such were either found by the Arabs or developed on by them due to the way milk was handled in the desert. Theres also a theory that Pasta and variants of it were derived from what the Arabs bought to southern europe). Ofc they have a rich and immense history of literary contributions, from Umar Khayyam to the Arabian Nights. Medieval Persia was a force to be reckoned with with how prosperous it was. Idk what happened but the Crusades and the Ottomans onwards, they became a bunch of backward goat fucking idiots who took their shitty religion way too seriously.
I think the Islamic Golden Age happened largely despite Islam, not because of it. Just like the Roman Empire in its hey day, there was a solid groundwork of already established intellectual capital in places like Egypt and Persia, infrastructure and a better climate period as well. Later on the central authority erodes and shit goes downhill. Since Europeans never felt quite as united and centralized like the Muzzies or a more extreme example, the Chinese, they dealt and still deal better with smaller but more potent polities. Machiavelli even notices this in his Prince.
Idk if its cause their genetics got diluted from inbreeding or something similar. I would say the Jews have a lot of great stuff about them as well, even if theyve become shitty after the fall of the Roman Empire. Rich contributions to philosophy and literature, among other things. As much as people think Jews hate Christianity, some of the first Christians were Jewish and followed Jewish customs, for almost 100 years, till about 100AD at which point they decided expanding to Gentiles was necessary to thrive, especially in the face of Jewish persecution and Roman oppression. There was an entire story about this from the Americans, Ben Hur, must be familiar to people.
Well, it helps to recall that Talmudic/Rabbinic Judaism is actually younger than Christianity in its manifest form, but that leads us back to the age old discussion of what even is a Jew today in relation to Biblical Israel. Modern archaeological discoveries aren't very favorable either what with copious pig bones being found around 600 BC or so...
I dont know if this is actually true cause there is a lot of history about how modern Christianity was molded by the gentile converts, the various saints and their interpretations of holy texts, moreso than Jesus, the apostles and the New Testament. This is how Communion went from a traditional community meal to a ritualistic blessing, coincidentally at around the same time the Kashrut dietary law (Kosher food) was abandoned, which was part of Christianity up until the early 100s or 200s. This explains Saturnalia, the whole 25th December thing. This is also how a lot of Christian texts got decanonized and deemed heretical works, like the Gospel of Thomas and Judas, some as far as 500-600AD, long after Rabbinic Judaism. For the record, Im not a Christian, I know more about it from the History and not the Theology. The other stuff I agree with.
Well, it helps to recall that Talmudic/Rabbinic Judaism is actually younger than Christianity in its manifest form, but that leads us back to the age old discussion of what even is a Jew today in relation to Biblical Israel. Modern archaeological discoveries aren't very favorable either what with copious pig bones being found around 600 BC or so...
There's evidence from the late researcher Russell Gmirkin, that the first five books of the bible as we know them: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, and Deuteronomy (AKA the Pentateuch), was written in its entirety by a team of Jewish scholars working in the Library of Alexandria in 273-272 BCE, who also published the Septuagint Greek translation of the Torah around the same time.
Basically what he says is that the Torah was written around 250 BC, hundreds of years later than claimed.
If his theories are right, it calls into question everything about the Jewish claim of their biblical right to Israel, and that the Old Testament (as we know it today), was manipulated by Jewish scholars for their own benefit.
