LemonMice
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What are your thoughts on that justification? It's logically true. But it's a poor justification for an action as we don't know all the ends that our means cause. We are going to be ignorant towards some of the 2nd, 3rd, and 4th order effects. And those events that get sprung into motion might end up undermining your ends anyways.
I would personally soften your means. If your are a liberal progressive and you want to use selective breeding to advance civilization (the best long-term ambition). You should avoid negative eugenics as taking away reproductive freedom is poisonous to the social fabric. You'd have to be cautious with positive eugenics as desirable people might turn into commodities and we might become too culturally obsessive towards these people.
Then again, eugenics can actually dramatically increase the value of average people if they assist the above average in reproduction. We can get (beautiful) people who have an average IQ above 120+. Now SAT scores used to be a better proxy for that, so we just have g-loaded occupations instead. Most donors will probably be upper class and have parents who attained high education outcomes alongside a g-loaded occupation. Seattle sperm bank has a pretty decent selection for sperm donors as it lists their family members occupation as well. You can do the same for egg donors.
Then use fertility clinics to make embryos, and we can figure out policies to reward and subsidize families who decide to incubate these embryos, then raise them as their own.
People who are several standard deviations above average contribute the most to society. Personality traits like extroversion have no correlation to intelligence. And not everyone who is several SD above average in intelligence is a genius. Geniuses are peerless at alternative thinking, and pulling new abstractions out the ether. Very intelligent people can become very skilled and absorb bodies of knowledge quickly. They will be more competent at their jobs as they get more job knowledge each year than the average. They can make improvements to a theory and catch what others have missed. They can make a branch grow longer, but a genius makes brand new branches. Most geniuses will be 3+SD above average regardless.
But we can get average families to produce 120+ IQ offspring. Thus the rate of gifted and genius people will exponentially increase per capita. And now average families can make contributions to society in parity to the above average, as they assist in the reproduction of those on the right side of the bell curve.
Now white upper class assholes will have to temper their hostility towards the white lower classes. And lower white classes will have to appreciate the white upper classes. We have to stop being jealous of Chad, Stacey, Geniuses, etc as we should be glad they exist and ultimately bring glory, security, power, prosperity to our people collectively. No being a crab in the bucket and saying nasty things or trying to sabotage peers who are more successful/"superior" than you.
Given the fact that white people are in the twilight of our existence. Low birth rate, getting replaced (statistical reality and it's the same ends of genocide), along with the right side of our bell curve crashing. We are disorganized across class and politics. Our geriatric leaders are horrible. The boomers/gen x live in a different era and are willfully blind...
Doing something like this will save our asses, as it's an idea that addresses multiple fronts. The best way to prepare for the future, is just to become inherently stronger and smarter to face life's struggles better. We started a society that rewards general intelligence more and more everything increases in technological complexity. East Asians are currently the best adapted to take advantage of this world we've created unless they handicap themselves. Increases the birth rate and increase the volume of higher grade stock. We love people more, draw harsh boundaries with the out-groups, and get to work on fulfilling possibilities that's tied to our destiny.
I would personally soften your means. If your are a liberal progressive and you want to use selective breeding to advance civilization (the best long-term ambition). You should avoid negative eugenics as taking away reproductive freedom is poisonous to the social fabric. You'd have to be cautious with positive eugenics as desirable people might turn into commodities and we might become too culturally obsessive towards these people.
Then again, eugenics can actually dramatically increase the value of average people if they assist the above average in reproduction. We can get (beautiful) people who have an average IQ above 120+. Now SAT scores used to be a better proxy for that, so we just have g-loaded occupations instead. Most donors will probably be upper class and have parents who attained high education outcomes alongside a g-loaded occupation. Seattle sperm bank has a pretty decent selection for sperm donors as it lists their family members occupation as well. You can do the same for egg donors.
Then use fertility clinics to make embryos, and we can figure out policies to reward and subsidize families who decide to incubate these embryos, then raise them as their own.
People who are several standard deviations above average contribute the most to society. Personality traits like extroversion have no correlation to intelligence. And not everyone who is several SD above average in intelligence is a genius. Geniuses are peerless at alternative thinking, and pulling new abstractions out the ether. Very intelligent people can become very skilled and absorb bodies of knowledge quickly. They will be more competent at their jobs as they get more job knowledge each year than the average. They can make improvements to a theory and catch what others have missed. They can make a branch grow longer, but a genius makes brand new branches. Most geniuses will be 3+SD above average regardless.
But we can get average families to produce 120+ IQ offspring. Thus the rate of gifted and genius people will exponentially increase per capita. And now average families can make contributions to society in parity to the above average, as they assist in the reproduction of those on the right side of the bell curve.
Now white upper class assholes will have to temper their hostility towards the white lower classes. And lower white classes will have to appreciate the white upper classes. We have to stop being jealous of Chad, Stacey, Geniuses, etc as we should be glad they exist and ultimately bring glory, security, power, prosperity to our people collectively. No being a crab in the bucket and saying nasty things or trying to sabotage peers who are more successful/"superior" than you.
Given the fact that white people are in the twilight of our existence. Low birth rate, getting replaced (statistical reality and it's the same ends of genocide), along with the right side of our bell curve crashing. We are disorganized across class and politics. Our geriatric leaders are horrible. The boomers/gen x live in a different era and are willfully blind...
Doing something like this will save our asses, as it's an idea that addresses multiple fronts. The best way to prepare for the future, is just to become inherently stronger and smarter to face life's struggles better. We started a society that rewards general intelligence more and more everything increases in technological complexity. East Asians are currently the best adapted to take advantage of this world we've created unless they handicap themselves. Increases the birth rate and increase the volume of higher grade stock. We love people more, draw harsh boundaries with the out-groups, and get to work on fulfilling possibilities that's tied to our destiny.
