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What the average Joe thinks doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what your obscenely rich corporate CEO thinks.
You can thank the average Joe for devaluing their own lives.
The Demise of SJW's? - Will The Madness Ever End? Now With Poll!
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What the average Joe thinks doesn't matter. The only thing that matters is what your obscenely rich corporate CEO thinks.
You can thank the average Joe for devaluing their own lives.
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Part of the problem is how influential their actions are. for instance, using they in a singular form is about the most infuriating thing people do on a regular basis, in large part because it was perpetrated by feminists to remove "gendered association" in language. The fact that they're a minority is irrelevant so long as they hold ideological sway
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Only a person who does not believe in that whole mad alphabet of grievances could possibly ask a question like that.
Although SJW are the bane of civilization, its good they are all tied up in that. Can you imagine what life would be like if the SJW, unmedicated and otherwise unoccupied, would do if they only had the internet and nothing to vent about? KF would collapse.
Although SJW are the bane of civilization, its good they are all tied up in that. Can you imagine what life would be like if the SJW, unmedicated and otherwise unoccupied, would do if they only had the internet and nothing to vent about? KF would collapse.
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I hope that SJWs will trigger backlashes by going to far, e.g. demanding acceptance for pedophilia and bestiality. Or a global cataclysm, like World War III or the consequences of climate change, will cause real problems to worry about instead of "manspreading". Maybe, the movement just dies down like every moral panic, when people loose interest, get tired of it or simply grow up.
Even though I tend to just say or write "he" instead, the "singular they" really has nothing to do with SJWs. 'Tis being used for a long time and by all kinds of people regardless of political affiliation or gender.
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Yeah this is the biggest disconnect I am seeing in this thread. It is the tech company CEOs who have the power right now and it is becoming increasingly clear they are not merely in this for profit but because they actually believe what they are saying. People pretending this sort of stuff will go away with the next Trump election are being extremely optimistic about this. I personally think this stuff is so intertwined with the US at this point that the only way for this stuff to go away is for the US to go away.
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I honestly doubt that silicon valley tech companies like Google and Facebook can be broken up at all. Knowing their influence, and wealth; we can only hope that they'll end up like how Standard Oil was broken up. It's going to take some seriously strong willed people in order to break them up, predicting the amount of bribes they'll give out.
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They'll probably go bankrupt when everybody gets the idea to install adblocking.
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I agree. Best case scenario though is that it won't be anywhere near as one-sided as its been for decades, but that still probably wouldn't mean that the Liberal Arts and the Humanities are not dominated by a majority of Left-wing minded professors (I think Law and Economics could go either way depending on the state). My main concern is the campus overall.
@Forever Train Engineer Perhaps, but I think it will depend on their practices. That is say if YouTube pretty much wants as little to no "controversial" videos on their site anymore as possible. Well, someone eventually is going to want to offer a place for those kinds of content creators. The concern then will be if the new platform won't themselves go through the same cycle as YouTube did which I don't think they will.
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I wonder, who and what are going to replace SJWs and their postmodern interpretation of identity politics?
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I think Trump's re-election is absolutely gonna burst the SJW bubble, if not heavily damage it beyond repair. The first time around already sent them on a spastic tirade that, over time, has since seen them becoming more and more insufferable to not just the right but the general public. The second term is gonna make them go so rabidly insane that no person with half a brain will want anything to do with their nonsense.
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LOL Google is one step away from completely fucking up their browser by trying to destroy ad blocker and is currently freaking out over the possibility of both Trump getting re-elected and the DOJ getting ready to take the hammer to them to the point they're going to fuck up Youtube even more to "counter" it.
A Google big wig did a response to this getting leaked and essentially cried that they were "taken out of context",that the "Alt-Right were lying", that "I'm being HARASSED! HALP!" the works.
Wanna know what happened? The response article got deleted and the big wig deleted her social media because EVERYONE was calling her out for being a lying partisan piece of trash.
Censoring Conservatives/Trump supporters/anti SJWs isn't making them go away it's only galvanizing them and making them angrier.
Also do you think SJWism is the first "social movement" to have big money put behind it, politicians paying it lip service and near universal cultural domination as a result?
No it wasn't, if you were born before 2000 congrats you lived under one.
In fact this doom & gloom I just quoted reminds me of how Leftists panicked that the Republicans were going to turn America into a Christian theocracy where women were forced into ballgowns and anyone less straight than a ruler was going to be thrown into camps in both the 90s and 2000s when Bush Jr was in office.
My guess is it's going to be a mix of both 50/80s style Conservatism and 60s/90s anti-authoritarianism as the big media corps become more and more hated. To what extent though I don't know although I imagine at first it's going to be a more chill live,let live and leave people alone type after the zealotry of SJWs.
Whatever it is though, expect a lot of SJWs to go "Born again Christian" to the new hotness like when the Evangelical Right was in power.
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Whenever the majority of the altright/SJW generation is older than 25, which I reckon would be around 2025 give or take a year or two on either side owing to the varying definitions of the generations. By 25, most people will outgrow their SJW or altright phase (the two are really just two flavors of the same kind of exceptional), and settle on to more realistic political views on either side of the left or right, with left or right being defined by more practical parameters because some level of adulthood has usually hit by then.
Some of those SJW girls are going to date a white dude and see it's not so bad, some of those alt right boys are gonna get kicked out of mommy's basement, get a job and see their Jewish boss is actually a neat lady. Eventually, most of them are going to be exposed to the real world, and that will inevitability disabuse them of their non viable views. Those in the minority that prefer to remain afraid of the real world and cloistered up in the universities or at home, won't really go on to do much outside their corners of autism, as you have tojoin the real world in order to participate in it.
Some of those SJW girls are going to date a white dude and see it's not so bad, some of those alt right boys are gonna get kicked out of mommy's basement, get a job and see their Jewish boss is actually a neat lady. Eventually, most of them are going to be exposed to the real world, and that will inevitability disabuse them of their non viable views. Those in the minority that prefer to remain afraid of the real world and cloistered up in the universities or at home, won't really go on to do much outside their corners of autism, as you have tojoin the real world in order to participate in it.
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They never go away, they merely oscillate and change over time, as well as our labels for them. So things like beatniks, and hippies, marxist, socialists, they always carry on over to another generation. The title might change, but the same sort of people.
The best we can hope for is that their ideas fall out of vogue and they fade into an obscure little pocket of society.
The best we can hope for is that their ideas fall out of vogue and they fade into an obscure little pocket of society.
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Agreed. There will always be SJW's, but the issue isn't their existence, but their influence and the current zeitgeist.
Hippies and Evangelical fundies still exist today if you know where to look, but the New Left of the 1960's and 1970's and the Religious Right of the 1980's-2000's aren't really a thing anymore.
The subcultures still exist and will likely always be around in some form, but the zeitgeist and relevance they once had are gone.
I'm sure there will always be hipsters, soyboys, and dangerhairs even after the SJW zeitgeist crashes and burns, but they'll either be older Millennial burnouts who won't grow up or later generations essentially LARP'ing as them.
Future SJW's will be no different than Millennials or Gen Z kids claiming to be Goth nowadays, even though the actual Goth subculture was largely a Generation X thing and was primarily defined by the individualism and nihilism that was prevalent in Gen X youth culture.
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The last option in the poll was the funniest and sobering truth. It's a line a great standup comedian would have used. These SJW's on the internet and antifas are just pawns to be mobilised by bunch of old men with god complex. In the end it's all about money and power they want to wield.
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I think it's closely tied with consumer media targeted at Women. Keep in mind that these social justice principles didn't just pop up overnight, most of the theories they were based upon were in books written by radical feminists back in the 60's and 70's. But these sorts of arguments and ideas never had this sort of platform until the last 20-30 years when the media and marketing, realizing women were better consumers, started to target them more. Now hatred against men in media is virtually commonplace, and appeals to emotion instead of rational argument are the presiding communications.
Think to some of those opinion articles you read regularly, "facts are sexist" "logic is sexist" etc...
The simple point is, Women tend to be emotional, facts are usually hard truths you have to accept, they hurt your feelings, so they must go. This is what I think is at the heart of the matter. We live in a matriarchal media system, emotion trumps facts, and logic. Because Women are the audience they are trying to appeal to.
Sure sometimes it doesn't work and they completely fuck it up *cough Ghostbusters cough* but the corporations will keep trying because they can get more money out of women than men. I think that's where the true root of the cause is. The whole things a corporate spin job to get people to support stuff, to buy stuff, or excuse behavior. "oh it's fine if he's a pedo because he's an ally of LGBT/women/blacks" It's an emotional subjective argument, only woman or super soyboy would come up with such a defense.
Now if we could only turn Men into Women so they'd buy more shit.... hmmm.
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If right and left worked together then the beginnings of a new Tea Party or Occupy will happen. And they got stamped on and subverted pretty quick.
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Hello. I'm not that old and I don't really remember the religious right that well. I think that comparisons between them and the modern SJWs could be useful, but there is one thing that I don't understand about them that could make or break the usefulness of the comparison. Did the religious/evangelical right have the same influence in academia and the media that SJWs have? I know they had politicians, protestant churches, lobbyists, and christian media, but can you really make a one-to-one comparison between that and Silicon valley, higher education, Hollywood, a good chunk of the news media, the progressive movement, and so on?
Also, what I want to know is what is going to replace SJWs. I don't want them to be replaced by a gang of right wing faggots that are going to sperg out so hard that the democrats take power and turn America into a one-party socialist state. Is there a way to identify these people and deal with them before they become a problem?
Also, what I want to know is what is going to replace SJWs. I don't want them to be replaced by a gang of right wing faggots that are going to sperg out so hard that the democrats take power and turn America into a one-party socialist state. Is there a way to identify these people and deal with them before they become a problem?
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The Religious Right didn't control the narrative quite as much as the SJW Left currently does, but that's mainly because it originated as a pre-internet movement and the media landscape was different back then.
Even after internet came about in the 90's and 2000's, social media as we know it wasn't really a thing and the internet was a lot less corporate or consolidated, and before the mid-2000's, the internet was considered a joke by mainstream America and was seen as a nerd thing (and nerd culture was not fetishized and glorified like it is today)
Academia hated them deeply (outside of explicitly Christian universities like Liberty or Bob Jones) but the colleges and universities were leftist hotbeds even back then and didn't have as much influence on the youth culture as they do now since less people went to college back in the 80's and 90's.
Hollywood tried to ignore the Religious Right as best as possible and the news media would pander to them if they could make an extra buck from the higher ratings that sensationalism usually brings.
Geraldo Rivera had his infamous TV special about Satanic cults that is still one of the highest-rated (in the Nielsen sense of the word) television broadcasts in history and there was a lot of national sensationalism over incidents such as the McMartin Preschool Trials and the West Memphis Three.
Even after the Satanic Panic ended nationally, it still continued unimpeded in the Bible Belt, as seen by the sensationalist coverage of the Lilieid Murders and how five of the six convicted teenagers* were essentially screwed over by the Satanic Panic idiocy, with the local media coverage being the worst.
And unlike the West Memphis Three, those kids are still locked away in prison serving life sentences without any possibility of parole.
The reason why the Religious Right got big at first was partly as a backlash against the excesses of the New Left in the 60's and 70's and partly because soccer mom liberals like Tipper Gore and Joe Lieberman actively worked with the Religious Right, motivated by "think of the children" sentiments. Around that same time, the Religious Right worked closely with radical sex-negative feminists in anti-pornography campaigns.
The music industry fought back, as hard rock and heavy metal was often targeted by the Religious Right, and tabletop role-playing games such as Dungeons & Dragons were also targeted heavily.
After Clinton got into office and a lot of the Satanic Panic stuff was officially debunked by the FBI, it stopped being a national issue but was still strong in the Bible Belt regions (Deep South, rural Midwest, and Appalachia) and thanks to guys like Pat Buchanan, the Republican Party still heavily pandered to the Religious Right in the 90's and the Religious Right also became more closely aligned with the Neoconservative movement in the late 90's and early 2000's.
The Religious Right came back with a vengeance in the early 2000's with Bush getting elected and for a while, it seemed that Democrats and liberals would work with the Religious Right again in the wake of 9/11.
Unfortunately, this fell apart quickly and when combined with the many failures of the Bush Administration (War On Terror, Patriot Act, Great Recession) it led to the backlash in the form of 2010's SJW Culture and the Republicans as a whole ditching the Religious Right on the national level once Trump hit the scene.
*-Only one kid did the killings (Jason Bryant) and he was the one who showed the most psychological issues and had the fewest social ties to the other five kids.
A lot of the Satanism stuff that the courts used against them came from his testimony, which is now believed to counter the fact that all the others who testified basically pinned him as the killer and that the killings were his idea. The fact that these kids were mostly Goths and social outcasts in rural Appalachia did not help matters.