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The Catholic Church’s Amazon Synod Is Flirting With Religious Syncretism
The unexplained presence of pagan idols and rituals are just outward signs of the profound theological problems at the heart of the synod.
By John Daniel Davidson


If you want a window into the crisis the Catholic Church faces, look to the Amazon Synod now underway in Rome. The synod made headlines this week when two anonymous operatives entered the Santa Maria in Traspontina Church near St. Peter’s Basilica in Rome early Monday morning, removed at least three pagan fertility statues from the side altars, and threw them into the Tiber River. They videotaped the whole thing and issued a statement saying faithful Catholics “are being attacked by members of our own Church.”
Why were pagan fertility statues—idols, really—on display in a Catholic Church in the first place? It’s a fair question that has yet to get an adequate answer. The statues, featuring an unclothed pregnant woman and representing “Pachamama,” or Mother Earth, have featured prominently in the synod. The Vatican insists they simply represent “fertility and life,” yet indigenous Amazonians bowed down to them during a ritual performed in the Vatican gardens in the presence of Pope Francis and then carried them in procession into St. Peter’s Basilica at the opening of the synod.

The Vatican responded to the theft and dumping of the pagan statues by accusing conservative Catholics of fomenting hate on social media, calling the incident a “violent and intolerant gesture.” It’s unclear how throwing a wooden statue into a river is “violent,” but it’s true that conservative Catholics have been unabashedly critical of the statues. One outlet, LifeSite News, started a petition this week to remove them, gathering more than 16,000 signatures.
For all the attention the Pachamama incident has gotten, it’s really just an outward manifestation of the serious theological problems underlying the synod. When the synod’s instrumentum laboris, or working document, was published this summer, it was criticized by a number of prominent cardinals as a betrayal of church doctrine and teaching, not just on questions about whether to ordain married men as priests or allow women to serve as deacons in the sparsely populated Amazon, but on fundamental theological questions like the concept of revelation.
Cardinal Gerhard Müller, a former head of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, issued a seven-page analysis of the instrumentum, criticizing it for seeming to suggest that the Amazon region, the territory itself, is a source of God’s revelation. “If here a certain territory is being declared to be a ‘particular source of God’s Revelation,’ then one has to state that this is a false teaching,” writes Müller, “inasmuch as for 2,000 years, the Catholic Church has infallibly taught that Holy Scripture and Apostolic Tradition are the only sources of Revelation and that no further Revelation can be added in the course of history.”
Müller wasn’t alone. Cardinal Walter Brandmüller called the instrumentum “heretical” and said it must be “rejected.” Cardinal Raymond Burke said it was “a direct attack on the Lordship of Christ” that amounted to “apostasy.” Cardinal Robert Sarah, prefect of the Congregation for Divine Worship, who is actually participating in the synod, said some prelates want to use the meeting as a kind of ideological test-case for enacting sweeping changes to church doctrine.
Multiculturalism Run Amok

There’s good reason for such objections. The instrumentum seems to advance a view of religion very much at odds with what the Catholic Church has taught for more than 2,000 years. In particular, it advances an understanding of “inculturation” that’s alien to Catholicism. The basic notion of inculturation, traditionally understood, is that the church must proclaim the gospel all over the world, and should therefore use whatever it can in each culture or civilization to get the message across.
It’s an ancient approach to spreading the gospel, first used by St. Paul in Athens, where he proclaimed to the Areopagus the meaning of the city’s idol to the unknown god. Simply put, inculturation means that the gospel shapes and transforms indigenous cultures, which are forever changed, and in a very real sense redeemed, by encountering and accepting Jesus Christ. This is because, as Dr. Robert Louis Wilken has written,
Christ entered history as a community, a society, not simply as a message, and the form taken by the community’s life is Christ within society. The Church is a culture in its own right. Christ does not simply infiltrate a culture; Christ creates culture by forming another city, another sovereignty with its own social and political life.
This is not what the organizers of the Amazon Synod mean by inculturation. They mean, or appear to mean, something closer to the deification of indigenous Amazonian culture—hence the pagan statues and rituals, all of which has created general confusion about why these things have been included in the synod. No one seems to have clear answers to what should be simple questions, such as: what is the meaning of the Pachamama statue?
Arguably, the prevalence of pagan images and rituals alongside Christian ones suggests the synod is aiming not at true inculturation but at some kind of religious syncretism. If so, this isn’t just multiculturalism run amok, it is exactly what the objecting cardinals have said it is: heresy, apostasy, false teaching.

If the synod organizers’ ultimate goal is to change the church’s teaching on the ordination of married men and the role of women in ministry, then it’s easy to see how deifying Amazonian culture, presenting it somehow as uniquely divine or in and of itself a revelation, might serve those ends. If the Amazon is itself a source of revelation, if its indigenous culture is somehow divine, and if that culture embraces married priests and female deacons, why can’t the church change? Is this not the true meaning of inculturation?
This line of reasoning suggests there is likely a larger goal behind the synod’s mushy talk of inculturation and inclusion that strikes at the very heart of how the church understands itself and its role. Pope Francis has written that “grace supposes culture,” a play on St. Thomas Aquinas’ formulation that “grace supposes nature,” by which Aquinas meant merely that grace presupposes the gift of creation, which is redeemed and perfected by God’s grace.
What Francis means by “grace supposes culture” is something else entirely. As Douglas Farrow noted recently in First Things, the phrase “means that the culture in question is somehow divinely authored and designed, therefore good and revelatory in itself.”
Of course, cultures are created by fallen human beings and are not at all divinely authored, nor do they necessarily reveal anything good or true. Often, the truth they do reveal is that there is a darkness in the heart of man.

We are told by the synod organizers that the Amazonian peoples are living in a moment of grace because they are “living the culture of encounter.” It’s unclear what exactly this means, but it appears to mean something rather disturbing to any orthodox-minded Catholic. As Farrow goes on to explain,
The kairos, the culture of encounter, being lauded in the Pan-Amazon Synod is a Bergoglian kairos and culture. The church ‘called to be ever more synodal,’ to be ‘made flesh’ and ‘incarnated’ in existing cultures, is a Bergoglian church. And this church, not to put too fine a point on it, is not the Catholic Church. It is a false church. It is a self-divinizing church. It is an antichristic church, a substitute for the Word-made-flesh to whom the Catholic Church actually belongs and to whom, as Cardinal Müller insists, it must always give witness if it means to be the Church.
In other words, if the synod is going to assert that the physical territory and indigenous culture of the Amazon are in themselves sources of divine revelation, and that the church must, in the name of “inculturation,” adjust her teachings and practices to this new revelation, then what the synod asserts is not the gospel, but heresy.
And if this is the basis upon which the Catholic Church must change her teachings and practices, then what’s to stop other cultures in other parts of the world from proposing new revelations of their own?
Nothing at all—which might well be the entire point.

The only positive is married priests. How long until our favorite swedish potato is declared a saint and Catholics have to seek absolution for carbon emissions?

Not to mention the beginnings of a world Babylon religion. Worship our booga booga amazon to atone for your carbon sins!
 
Malachy's prophecy of the popes will inevitably be proven right

Pope Francis will destroy the church. Parishes in the US are merging with each other left and right to try and stay afloat, and the bishops are pushing this Word on Fire new age evangelical bullshit to try and get people to care & focus on their "relationship" with Christ. It's literally just shit pulled from the protestant playbook
 
Pope Francis will destroy the church.
Francis cant destroy what was already undone by the administrations before him. Nobody gives moral credibility to the catholic church anymore, not since they all got outed as a kabal child-fuckers who collude and conspire among themselves and their "Faithful" collaborators to escape the laws of countries they transgress against.

Imo the only real difference that separates the catholic church and the church of Scientology is scale.
 
For fuck's sake!

This whole article reads like Pope Francis is trying to go above and beyond to emulate the Jack Chick version of the Antichrist.

When I'm reading about about pagan nature goddesses in the Vatican and global warming being a front for goddess worship, I'm expecting it to be batshit conspiracy theories spewed by redneck Protestants. Instead it's actual news.

Fuck, I'm scared now.
 
Thankfully Francis is not a young Pope. So the problem should work itself out in due course. I don’t think the Cardinals will be dumb enough to elect an unpredictable Marxist maverick from a third world he’ll hole again anytime soon. They will stick with nominees from local third world he’ll holes like Italy or Great Britain.

Hopefully the coalition that elected him can get f'D
 
Well, the big issue is that this should not be in the open. Since it is, it shows that not even the most dogmatic institutions are immune to political entryism and infiltration. That is fundamentally worrying.
The church has spent the better part of 2,000 years letting itself be molded, contorted, and compelled into playing realpolitik in order to maintain relevance with a global population that isn't all interested in giving them tribute. Would you argue Vatican II was fundamentally worrying and that priests should still be holding mass in Latin with their backs turned to the congregation? Plenty did at the time and some still do.

I guess if you are a devout catholic then you have an interest in the church maintaining political power enough to cow people who aren't in league with the church. Well, that's not entirely fair because another reason might be that you just believe the church's dogma is superior enough for purposes of a productive and healthy society that it should not be depowered, whether you are catholic or not. Better to follow the catholic's rules than the rules of totem worshippers in South America, or whoever. To that I would still personally disagree. I'm wary of any group that says people must follow a dogma just for sake of giving them purpose, it's too collectivist for me. I don't hate the church but I'm far from respecting them enough to have any bad feelings because they're being overrun by pagan beliefs. Maybe none of that describes your particular position though.
 
Thank God. I was getting real tired of this Earth-Mother bullshit. Couldn’t care less about the Church but good on those guys who tossed them
 
Well, the big issue is that this should not be in the open. Since it is, it shows that not even the most dogmatic institutions are immune to political entryism and infiltration. That is fundamentally worrying.
You say that like the Church hasn't played politics for century upon century.
About the actual text of the article: it is grossly inappropriate to incorporate pagan idols into a church service, much less in the heart of Christendom. The Amazonian synod should be declared heretics until they cut that shit out, but sadly the current Holy See will likely refuse to do that because they wish to refuse the appearance of victory to the retrogrades in the priesthoods that want to undo Vatican II and return Mass to some Muslim shit: a priest facing away from his people and chanting in Latin while the women stand behind a screen so as not to distract men with their sinful wombs.
 
The Amazonian synod should be declared heretics until they cut that shit out, but sadly the current Holy See will likely refuse to do that because they wish to refuse the appearance of victory to the retrogrades in the priesthoods that want to undo Vatican II and return Mass to some Muslim shit: a priest facing away from his people and chanting in Latin while the women stand behind a screen so as not to distract men with their sinful wombs.
I agree with you on the first part, but how does this not show that the retrogrades had a point? For better or worse the church was closer to that "muslim shit", and by trying to modernize it you now have Amazon pagan statues in the Vatican and Catholics radicalizing to full iconoclasm, throwing the idols into the tiber river.
 
Catholic means universal religion, of course they would accept parts of other faiths.

You did not think that Catholicism got all their learnings from the Bible, did you? Martin Luther called that shit out centuries ago. Hell, many Christians preferred to side with the Islamic Turks over the Catholic Church in wars only a handful of centuries past because they seemed more trustworthy.
 
I agree with you on the first part, but how does this not show that the retrogrades had a point? For better or worse the church was closer to that "muslim shit", and by trying to modernize it you now have Amazon pagan statues in the Vatican and Catholics radicalizing to full iconoclasm, throwing the idols into the tiber river.
I would rather have a Church that is open to community and embraces the mission of creating a community of the faithful. From personal experience, very few of the retrogrades are interested in that; they long for the old days when the word of the parish priest was seen as second only to God himself, with the priest being elevated above the faithful and ruling over them. When a priest commands a poor parish of geriatrics to kneel on cold stones, leading to several needing serious help just to get back up, how does that glorify God and make people grow closer to Him? When the liturgy is read in a dead tongue instead of the language of the country, how does that make the Church a living thing? When women are made to be silent and unseen, are forbidden from approaching the altar, and are forced to go down on their knees and lower their eyes to receive communion, how does that align with "no woman or man, gentile or Jew, slave or free"?
 
I would rather have a Church that is open to community and embraces the mission of creating a community of the faithful. From personal experience, very few of the retrogrades are interested in that; they long for the old days when the word of the parish priest was seen as second only to God himself, with the priest being elevated above the faithful and ruling over them. When a priest commands a poor parish of geriatrics to kneel on cold stones, leading to several needing serious help just to get back up, how does that glorify God and make people grow closer to Him? When the liturgy is read in a dead tongue instead of the language of the country, how does that make the Church a living thing? When women are made to be silent and unseen, are forbidden from approaching the altar, and are forced to go down on their knees and lower their eyes to receive communion, how does that align with "no woman or man, gentile or Jew, slave or free"?
I think this might be where we personally disagree, because in my personal experience it is the local community that seems to want the more orthodox rules; Having out of curiosity been to both latin mass and novus ordo, I've seen more people fill pews in the first than in the second and the people in the latin mass tend to be generally younger (Young 20s if I had to guess?) compared to the people at the novus ordo (A few young people like me but mostly people my grandparent's age).

Now personally while I think Novus Ordo mass is way shorter which is nice, I do like the extra latin Latin mass has even if it tends to drag on for me; I don't know why, maybe because I get to flex my mostly dead latin mental muscles? Maybe I just think latin chanting sounds cool? Or maybe it is because I have been subconciously indoctrinated at Catholic school or something wacky like that.
 
Perhaps the catholics concerned about this could write a letter to the Pope detailing how their religion has deviated from what it should be and how it needs to get away from all this modern decadence.

If that doesn't work maybe they could nail their manifesto to the door of their local church.
 
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Just in case ya'll need a new god. Also comes in Mecha version if you like giant robots. Chick dig giant robots.

Also, I wonder if we'll see that time of the centuries again when there are two popes. I can't imagine the polacks being very happy with this.
 
Perhaps the catholics concerned about this could write a letter to the Pope detailing how their religion has deviated from what it should be and how it needs to get away from all this modern decadence.

If that doesn't work maybe they could nail their manifesto to the door of their local church.
Seems dangerous. Church Militant posts stories about a chicago Priest named Fr. Paul Kalchik who tore down a gay flag hanging above the sanctuary covering the cruxifix(!) and the cardinal sent dioscean hitmen to force the priest into a mental asylum. His parishoners burned the flag. Fr. paul is in hiding apparently.
 
I would rather worship Pachamama than an eternally butthurt sandnigger god. keep on keeping on pope francis, you glorious bastard

Antisemite! Saying that some ooga booga god is better than the god of Israel, greatest nation on Earth, the Chosen Ones! 🇮🇱
 
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