The Boys - An Amazon Prime adaptation of the Ennis comic series

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Garth Ennis can write, it's just that his worst works (The Boys and Crossed) are well known while other works like Punisher MAX, Preacher or Hitman don't really get much recognition.
I feel like Garth can create amazing stories and characters, but the minute they start going a little too long things go off the rails fast.
 
Garth Ennis can write, it's just that his worst works (The Boys and Crossed) are well known while other works like Punisher MAX, Preacher or Hitman don't really get much recognition.
I feel like Garth can create amazing stories and characters, but the minute they start going a little too long things go off the rails fast.
It's like James Gunn. If you have a company breathing down his neck so that he doesn't go too wild, you'll probably get something pretty good. The moment you let him go off the leash you're going to get some boring juvenile garbage.
 
what the fuck is this shit? people unironically like garth ennis? fuck me thats dire
I do.

He desperately needs a tight leash and a good editor to tard wrangle him and keep his more juvenile impulses in check.

But, his work on Punisher MAX and Fury MAX is legit excellent and his WWII Comics are well-written and incredibly fun.

Red Team is solid crime drama, and Just A Pilgrim was a lot of fun up until the last few panels of the second story arc.
 
It's like James Gunn. If you have a company breathing down his neck so that he doesn't go too wild, you'll probably get something pretty good. The moment you let him go off the leash you're going to get some boring juvenile garbage.
"James Gunn is only good when everyone else does all of the work and he still gets the credit and fame". Wow such talent. James Gunn the pedophile jew whose entire social media presence was child rape fantasies. He's an even more sick degenerate than Kripke.
 
I'd take Garth Ennis at his most crude and edgiest over Kripkike or Gunn.

He makes compelling, eccentric characters over most authors. Not many can come up with a badass vampire dude like in Preacher, or a butthole face teen who tried to kill himself like Kurt Cobain which I find funny now in the face of the 90s that Garth did that.

Hes not the best but he has his moments.

Not many authors could write a character like Hughie and transform him from a coward, and still mostly a coward throughout the tale to a badass who survived it all despite the odds against him.

Billy Butcher, the dynamic of The Boys fucking blows the Amazon adaptation out of the water. Same with how Vought is written. I really wish they made a faithful animated series like we got in the one episode.

No author would ever come up with a foil to Punisher like the hulking black schizoid named Barracuda. No author would use 9/11 as a plot point in their story in 2006, when it was still fresh off the memory.

And no author would really come up with something like Crossed which I enjoyed as a teenager. I can see why people lambast his writing style but I think there's a lot more going on even if it doesn't deliver what you'd want from comics.


One series that'll never be adapted though that I highly recommend has to be Transmetropolitan. It's a really good comic, blows Ennis out of the water. Used Hunter S. Thompson as inspiration for the main character. Really good cyberpunk dystopia too. Has a lot more venom and bite in its themes compared to the directionless boomer gibberish that Garth Ennis puts in his stories.
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There is a reaso Batman Beyond is one of my favorite TV shows, they were really cooking with that one.
The really shocking thing about Batman Beyond is that it was initially pushed as one of those shows that was required to have a moral message at the end of every episode by the network, yet the people making it had such talent that they were able to create something unique and great within those constraints.

Batman Beyond is more mature and memorable than any of the R-rated (R for retarded btw) modern slop like the Boys or Invincible.

Garth Ennis can write, it's just that his worst works (The Boys and Crossed) are well known while other works like Punisher MAX, Preacher or Hitman don't really get much recognition.
Problem is that Ennis' writing has been getting worse, not better, as he gets older.

All three stories you mention were much earlier in his career, though I'd argue Preacher is pure filth, and not the good kind.

At least Ennis had the balls to also shit on Islam with Punisher MAX, which is more than can be said for the rest of his feckless peers.

One series that'll never be adapted though that I highly recommend has to be Transmetropolitan. It's a really good comic, blows Ennis out of the water. Used Hunter S. Thompson as inspiration for the main character. Really good cyberpunk dystopia too. Has a lot more venom and bite in its themes compared to the directionless boomer gibberish that Garth Ennis puts in his stories.
Written by mental, spiritual and physical cuckold Warren Ellis, the faggot that gifted humanity the Castlevania cartoon (I refuse to call it anime).

He's also the pedo creep that had his self-insert OC take Kitty Pryde's virginity, so you now there's fucked up shit on his hard disk.

Really, it's fascinating to watch the mental degradation of so many once competent writers as the leftist brain virus burrows deeper into their brain. They all seem to want to follow Ridley Scott's career trajectory of ruining their legacy by trying to one-up each other in being the most obnoxious, unhinged, TDS-suffering faggot in the industry.

It's shocking to think the same guy that gave us Gargoyles, which I consider the pinnacle of Western animation, is the same cretin that shat out Young Justice.
 
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At least Ennis had the balls to also shit on Islam with Punisher MAX, which is more than can be said for the rest of his feckless peers.
Every time someone praises Ennis for doing something the normie left wouldn't do, I have take the moment to cringe. So what if his views on other peoples aren't retarded? He still buys into all the other shit and can't tell a story bereft of his brand of retardation to save his life.

How many fucking times did his Punisher get saved by his supposedly professional military grade super above cape villains leaving him alive or just being retarded? lol, cape comics are stupid. Excuse me as I do literally every cape comic trope to save the gritty army vigilante!

this shit is just embarrassing when you realize it's just "my toys are better than your toys, hurr"
from his punisher to hitman
Written by mental, spiritual and physical cuckold Warren Ellis, the faggot that gifted humanity the Castlevania cartoon (I refuse to call it anime).
Garth Ennis, Mark Waid, Warren Ellis, Mark Millar.
This is one of God's jokes
It's shocking to think the same guy that gave us Gargoyles, which I consider the pinnacle of Western animation, is the same cretin that shat out Young Justice.
What does Greg Weisman have to do with this?
Did he go full retard on xitter too?
 
The thing that gets me about Homelander is that the character doesn't look or act like Trump.

So how is he a caricature exactly? What makes Homelander a caricature of Trump and not say Annoying Orange?

Does Kripke even know what a caricature is?
 
Oh you poor soul, you didn't watch every season of Young Justice after the first.

He didn't need to sperg out on Twitter, his dogshit liberal opinions shined through the writing.

Really kills me what became of him, but as always, a kike is a kike.
Oh, that's what you meant.
I forget about season 3.

It's not like season 2 didn't have any issues, but season 3 was... I mean, you watched it. Whether it was his idea, whether it was forced on him, I'm just tired.
 
I feel like Garth can create amazing stories and characters, but the minute they start going a little too long things go off the rails fast.
It's like James Gunn. If you have a company breathing down his neck so that he doesn't go too wild, you'll probably get something pretty good. The moment you let him go off the leash you're going to get some boring juvenile garbage.
Reminds me of Obdsidian Studios. When LucasArts and Bethesda were breathing down their necks, they made rushed, but great games like Star Wars KOTOR 2 and Fallout New Vegas. On their own, they made mediocre games like Outer Worlds and the South Park game which at most, were decent, and at worst, preachy, in the case of OW.

Written by mental, spiritual and physical cuckold Warren Ellis, the faggot that gifted humanity the Castlevania cartoon (I refuse to call it anime).
I fucking hate that show. They took what was one of the few series that portrayed religion with a sense of positivity (the good guys are vampire hunters hired by the Pope to deal with Dracula) and made it into another anti-religious screed.

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Another example of the modern entertainment industry fucking up something that was good.

The thing that gets me about Homelander is that the character doesn't look or act like Trump.

So how is he a caricature exactly? What makes Homelander a caricature of Trump and not say Annoying Orange?

Does Kripke even know what a caricature is?
He does not. Hell, Trump has suffered nowhere near the amount that Homelander did, especially when the latter was literally used as a human guinea pig, roasted in an oven and injected with drugs to make him a killing machine. Trump at most is another pampered one-percenter who just runs back to the government every time his dipshit actions bankrupted his company. Far unlike HL who was tortured and brainwashed to become a corporate product that people took selfies with.

Every time someone praises Ennis for doing something the normie left wouldn't do, I have take the moment to cringe. So what if his views on other peoples aren't retarded? He still buys into all the other shit and can't tell a story bereft of his brand of retardation to save his life.

How many fucking times did his Punisher get saved by his supposedly professional military grade super above cape villains leaving him alive or just being retarded? lol, cape comics are stupid. Excuse me as I do literally every cape comic trope to save the gritty army vigilante!

this shit is just embarrassing when you realize it's just "my toys are better than your toys, hurr"
from his punisher to hitman
Basically, Garth Ennis shits on superheroes, but he does the same thing Michael Bay did in the first three Transformers movies, jerking off the military-industrial complex as the superior alternative to superheroes. He is the Karen Traviss of capeshit comics, shitting on superheroes while promoting something more militaristic in its place.
 
You know reading this I become even more convinced that @Tyronneasaurus Rex has hit the nail on the head. It certainly wasn't showbusiness but in my career I've been in the situation where I have argued for doing something or not doing something against the guy in charge's ideas, got enough backing from colleagues that guy in charge has to allow it and then it proven right by audience customer feedback. And boy did that guy hate me for it every time it happened. Which was more than once.

If Starr has been nudging the character and story to be better liked by the audience over Kripke's original direction, I can absolutely see the guy writing this ending just to humiliate the actor and character in one go.

We've had comedy AI endings, but how long before someone does an actual serious take on a better ending with it? Not long, I imagine.
When you try to make any foray into writing you'll hear the advice, "Write what you know."
To me, within that advice is something that ought to be inferred, "And if you don't know it, learn it."
Kripke knows:
1. Left-wing politics
2. Chariacatures of the right-wing
3. Progressive political fads
4. Toilet & Sex humour
He doesn't strike me as someone who knows important things like:
1. Characters (or character development)
2. Plot development
3. Consistency
4. How human beings act

You can learn these things, even passively, but it usually requires actually engaging with stories. It's why people are able to complain about X, Y, or Z element in a piece of media because over time in the back of their heads they know what's good and what's bad about a story.

Starr isn't a writer, but passively he could've pick up on how to create a character, which is relatively simple because the best characters usually have some humanity to them that doesn't defy understanding. To be someone else requires empathy, and through playing the character of Homelander, Starr had more of an understanding of Homelander than Kripke did.

I doubt Kripke even attempted to empathise with Homelander. People like Kripke are the sorts of people who think historically labelled "bad guys" just did what they did for no reason other than "being bad" and there's no sort of motive. With this mentality you're training yourself to hold the view that bad people don't need a motive to do things and they're bad just because, which leaves no room for empathy because you can't empathise with something so conceptually inhuman.

The most leeway people like Kripke will give to "bad people" is that they're bad because they're stupid or being scared/forced into it.

TLDR: A lot of modern writers (and people who engage with stories in general) refuse to get into the heads of "bad people" because they view morality and understandable motives as a zero sum game.
 
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