The Abortion Debate Containment Thread - Put abortion sperging here.

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Seems to me that you want a larger government if you want to be able to control women's uteruses.
I'd prefer a government that protects tradition, community and the Faith to a government that protects Jeff Bezos' profits, Pride parades and Planned Parenthood.

If that makes me a leftist, then you can call me Bernie Stalin-Marx.
 
You think the government should have control over women's bodies.
If women and men can't abstain from random sexual encounters, then a third entity should control them, yes.

If women spend more time on partner selection and both parties diligently use contraception, then you don't have to kill babies.
 
If women and men can't abstain from random sexual encounters, then a third entity should control them, yes.
Why? Because you're upset that you can't get laid?

I'd prefer a government that protects tradition, community and the Faith to a government that protects Jeff Bezos' profits, Pride parades and Planned Parenthood.

If that makes me a leftist, then you can call me Bernie Stalin-Marx.
Well the US isn't a catholic or christian nation. We have separation of church and state. I know you're in the UK but I don't care what the UK does. I care what America does.
 
Why would you refuse to protect a human in her uterus, who had no say in being conceived and formed? Between a hypothetical woman and her child, a child is less protected.
It's not a human at that point. It's not sentient at that point.

I know body autonomy doesn't exist in Russia, but in America we have body autonomy. You can't be forced to donate blood or an organ, and that includes a woman's uterus.
 
Sorry that you puritans don't want women to have body autonomy,
Sorry that you libertines assign so little agency to women you claim to champion, by denying their capacity to carefully select their partners and diligently use contraception, so that they don't have to kill human children you claim aren't human.
 
Sorry that you libertines assign so little agency to women you claim to champion, by denying their capacity to carefully select their partners and diligently use contraception, so that they don't have to kill human children you claim aren't human.
So you are saying that women have zero need for abortions? I wish I lived in your ideal world
 
So you are saying that women have zero need for abortions?
Not zero, no, but the majority of abortions are done because both partners didn't think things through.

For fringe cases, like rape and incest, one can debate the necessity of abortion. That doesn't make it less of a killing but you can actually sympathize and empathize with women who wouldn't want to carry a reminder of an assault on their dignity to term.

However, a woman should not just kill a human inside her, because her partner didn't pull out of her soon enough or that she suddenly had a change of heart.
 
Not zero, no, but the majority of abortions are done because both partners didn't think things through.

For fringe cases, like rape and incest, one can debate the necessity of abortion. That doesn't make it less of a killing but you can actually sympathize and empathize with women who wouldn't want to carry a reminder of an assault on their dignity to term.

However, a woman should not just kill a human inside her, because her partner didn't pull out of her soon enough or that she suddenly had a change of heart.
Birth control and condoms can fail. A woman's life shouldn't be ruined because of that. People are gonna fuck, despite you puritans not liking it
 
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