Terry Pratchett's Diskworld Series

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Cannot count how many times I've listened to the Night Watch series, and the Death Series. The Witches turn me into an emo fag, so I don't do those as often.
For worldbuilding, Pratchett is only second to Lovecraft himself.
 
Carcer might be my favourite villain for the series,
What I liked was how it was explained that Carcer understood that the rules of society do not have to apply if you don't really want them to. It was so well explained within the context of that character, i.e. a sociopath by choice, who knows he can basically be a wolf among the fold.
It's quite ironic that Pratchett could write that, then go on to write a bunch of Woke, Leftist garbage later in his career.
 
Night Watch is the definitive Vimes novel and it's a damn shame it took Sir Terry five books to make something that really made the old cop shine.
That's the trick though. You want to see him succeed so bad, and you like the character so much that when he finally gets there, it's all the sweeter.

The slow burn is one of the best things in media when it's done right.
 
I've been checking the books out from the library and got to the point where I've read all the physical copies they have now. They also had some ebook copies, but not much more. Thank goodness for Internet Archive and Libgen so I could get the epub files for my kindle.
 
I've been reading the series in order of publication and almost finished Raising Steam when Pratchett died. Night Watch is by far my favourite. I remember being disturbed by the antagonist in The Amazing Maurice and later finding out that these things are real. I didn't like Soul Music but always assumed that it's full of references that I don't get. For some reason I hated Tiffany Aching and it wasn't because she's a girl
 
Humble Bundle has the Discworld series for $18 total right now. It's missing Raising Steam and The Last Hero. You need a Kobo account, but using Calibre will let you convert the files to epub or pdf.
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Tbh, I've always hated the character of Cheery/Cheri Littlebottom, and it was only later that I realized, that's it is for the same reason I don't like the troons and drag queens of IRL.
She's basically a trans-species, for whom is human womanhood all frilly dresses, shiny jewelery, high heels, vibrant make-up and girls nights out, but doesn't see the people she wants to look like, are basically second-class citizens in that world and if she was one of them, she likely wouldn't get into her profession. Her image of a woman is that of a rich, beautiful and powerful one, not one of those that end up as bodies in the morgue.
I bet the dwarves who hate her the most, are other female dwarves (which is likely suggested somewhere? I don't exactly remember).
One can express their individuality, but if it looks like bringing elements of human culture into one that is far more advanced in the terms of equality, she's hated for that rightfully. She might not like spilling beer, be drunk and fight, but there are already many dwarves who don't do that, they are already peaceful craftsmen and bussinessmen.
At least she drops the farce in Fifth Elephant.

Too bad nobody can ask Pratchett, how exactly should her character be interpreted.
 
Too bad nobody can ask Pratchett, how exactly should her character be interpreted.
Tbh she's a character I like on the surface, but the more you dive into both her history and dwarf culture, the more (and I am so sorry for using this word) problematic she becomes. Okay, fine, dwarf culture is rigid and conservative, and personal expression is frowned on but on the other hand, males and females are completely equal, and the genders and therefore sexuality of a married couple are seen as no one's business but their own. Species, even, is optional in dwarf culture. So long as the child is raised as a dwarf, he is a dwarf, even when he's a seven foot high human. Dwarf culture is confined, but within those confines is a freedom that many humans on the Discworld don't have. Female dwarfs are high priests and low kings, and for the majority of the dwarven people, racism/specisim towards other individuals in their culture isn't an issue, even if the individual isn't of the dwarf species.

Dwarf culture may have strict rules about personal expression, but within those strict rules, there's a lot of freedom and self determination.
 
For some reason I hated Tiffany Aching and it wasn't because she's a girl
Same, the whole first/second/third thoughts thing as one of her special powers really sets it up that other people don't have that, and that she's somehow special for having a very common interior monologue. Like I get some people don't and some people are that impulsive and stupid, but the ability to think through your actions isn't uncommon, either.
One can express their individuality, but if it looks like bringing elements of human culture into one that is far more advanced in the terms of equality, she's hated for that rightfully.
I didn't really read dwarves as intentionally equal; I saw it as a critique of religion where to acknowledge femaleness is embarrassing and that's what Cheri was rebelling against (even if I also hated the girliness). Like you could do whatever you wanted, just not while acknowledging you were female and instead hiding/being ashamed of it.
Too bad nobody can ask Pratchett, how exactly should her character be interpreted.
IDK but there are a few accounts out there of him being supportive / encouraging to trans fans. He might have just been generally encouraging instead of actively pro-trans but then that crazy Watch adaptation happened. I've never been convinced by his daughter saying she had no idea they were going to do that. I think it was BBC America and they don't usually overhaul things like that, particularly when it's already a british bestseller with a worldwide fanbase.
 
Don't know if I can convey what I have on my mind exactly, but AFAIK, the acknowledge of maleness is embarassing by them too.
They as a species just happen to look like small bearded men by default (from human perspective), and look otherwise takes certain effort, unlike the humans.
Their dating is about trying to learn through intricate conversations for hours, what sex the other dwarf is. The disgust by expressing (the human kind of) femaleness might have formed through observation, because they live alongside humans for centuries and don't want to have this dichotomy within their culture, because they see how harmful it is.
The dwarf natural femaleness is likely just fighting less and not spilling beer that much, which they are free to do regardless of their sex. When Vimes asks about the main characters of the dwarf opera in Fifth Elephant, which one of them is male or female, he is told they are both dwarves.
There is also the horny male dwarf Casanunda, and he seems to be a complete outcast, he is styled like a human noble and never seen in company of other dwarves and if they met him, they likely wouldn't have anything nice to say either.
 
I went to DWCon 2024 a couple weeks back, and safe to say from both reading the books and now meeting a wider fan community it's one of those rare interests that's for the most part genuinely and thoroughly enjoyable all around.

Even nearly a decade after Terry Pratchett (GNU) has passed, it's still clear that there's a strong love for the man and his amazing books deep within the community. It's also naturally a community that draws in a lot of people who tend to feel a bit odd or not fitting in. There were a few troons (though admittedly they were pretty much exclusively FtMs and they were nonbinary at the worst) but there wasn't any major trouble surrounding them.

Most of it was getting very drunk for a good few days and doing silly things like having a drink and a dance at their Ceilidh or participating in Clan Games. Genuinely had what I'd argue was the actual time of my life for that weekend; it happened to coincide with the UK riots, which didn't even feel like they were happening at the time from all the fun and distraction that the con was. It's a shame that it's only biannually held, but it makes sense regarding costs and the overall size of the con (being ~800 people).

Bonus, it's quite clear the con has disowned Neil Gaiman as his name was pretty much avoided being spoken entirely. At the time I had no clue, but turns out he's been involved in a case regarding an alleged sexual assault case with his child's nanny starting only hours after they both met.
 
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