Terminator: Dark Fate - Cause we need another one of these apparently.

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BScCollateral dijo:
I'd love to see a film like that about Skynet. But it seems unlikely that Hollywood is up to it any more.
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After T2 the series has become an action blockbuster franchise, so I'd be surprised if they ever even do a more subdued horror move like T1. So, yeah, sadly I can't see them ever doing something like Colossus.
 
HeyYou dijo:
What the actual fuck are those reload animations? Jesus, is this a mid-2000s budget FPS?
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The game looks like someone slapped a few shaders and HD textures on a 15 year old game. The soundeffects sound like they are from a stock-sound-database.

People actually plan on paying money for this?
 
Did Alita do well enough to get a sequel? I imagine Cameron actually heading an Alita sequel rather than just standing by the sidelines like the first one would make a world of difference.

Like they didn't really get into introducing Barjack Den and Desty Nova both of which is when the series really gets going.
 
RumblyTumbly dijo:
I'm just amazed we never got to a point where the story became about preserving the causality loop of the original film.

Okay, I still say there should have been no sequels after T2, but if there had to be, then we should have eventually gotten a film set in the Future War where John Connor has to preserve the events of the 1st film by giving Kyle the picture of his mom, sending him back, reprogramming the T-800 to send back, and making sure the events of T1 and T2 take place as they should, with some hitches in the road (maybe Kyle finds out he's John's dad or something, I don't know).

The fact that it is 2019, Terminator sequels are still being made, and they are STILL about time traveling robots and a protector trying to safeguard future Jesus is just asinine.
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Because T2 made a lot of money, so studio executives just want the same thing, even if from a story perspective, it makes zero sense.
 
BScCollateral dijo:
Colossus is probably the only thriller movie based on a software failure. Maybe 2001 as well. It's like a slow motion train wreck where you realize that Colossus and Guardian are doing exactly what they were designed to do.

I'd love to see a film like that about Skynet. But it seems unlikely that Hollywood is up to it any more.
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Does it has over the top explosions? I dont think so...
Movies of that kind are almost extinct, because executives cant fathom that audiences can watch mostly slow suspenseful scenes with characters talking and working on a solution in a relatively quiet room.

BrunoMattei dijo:
Salvation was setting this up.
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The sequel could have introduced a more grim night setting like the originals, maybe even a throw away line how fighting during the daytime has gotten "too risky"
Oh and purple laser guns.

Marissa Moira dijo:
Did Alita do well enough to get a sequel? I imagine Cameron actually heading an Alita sequel rather than just standing by the sidelines like the first one would make a world of difference.

Like they didn't really get into introducing Barjack Den and Desty Nova both of which is when the series really gets going.
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Im kind of afraid to get a sequel of Cameron is involved, they could make Alita an almost different character who is a strong independent robot grrrrl that needs no man (you know what I mean) and its obvious this wasnt part of her developtment but the screenwriters being soyboys.
I hope im wrong tho.
 
Question for everyone:
Have any of you seen Terminator before T2 came out?
I did as a little kid in 1990 and back then, it was a slasher movie. All the sci fi elements (cyborgs, Skynet, time travel) were just window dressing for a silent killer movie.
The movie plays out exactly the same as Halloween 1 & 2 (down to the male protagonist blowing himself up with the killer).
T2 had more action but T-1000 is still a horror movie villain (he even uses blades to brutally murder people).
T3 wasn't horror and that was the first one that sucked.

The sci fi aspect isn't what Terminator is about, that's why everything after T2 is a failure.

If (or rather "when") they'll make another one, they need to make a medium budget horror movie ($50 million at most) in order for it to succeed.
 
Looking through the various snippets of Terminator: DF, I can only hope that an eventual sequel starts with the "heroine" getting successfully killed by a Terminator version of "androgynous female side kick" before an adult John Connor enters the scene by gunning down the Terminator himself. Make the movie non-canon, emphasize that fact.
 
Rakdos92 dijo:
Looking through the various snippets of Terminator: DF, I can only hope that an eventual sequel starts with the "heroine" getting successfully killed by a Terminator version of "androgynous female side kick" before an adult John Connor enters the scene by gunning down the Terminator himself. Make the movie non-canon, emphasize that fact.
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That, my friend, is fucking racist, homophobic, transphobic and sexist...thats why its a great idea...and thats why they wont do it.
 
Idiotron dijo:
Question for everyone:
Have any of you seen Terminator before T2 came out?
I did as a little kid in 1990 and back then, it was a slasher movie. All the sci fi elements (cyborgs, Skynet, time travel) were just window dressing for a silent killer movie.
The movie plays out exactly the same as Halloween 1 & 2 (down to the male protagonist blowing himself up with the killer).
T2 had more action but T-1000 is still a horror movie villain (he even uses blades to brutally murder people).
T3 wasn't horror and that was the first one that sucked.

The sci fi aspect isn't what Terminator is about, that's why everything after T2 is a failure.

If (or rather "when") they'll make another one, they need to make a medium budget horror movie ($50 million at most) in order for it to succeed.
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Nope, I saw both Terminators on VHS circa 1997 as a kid, but I watched T2 first.

I was somewhat confused though the movie of course sets up everything at the start, so I wasn't too lost, but then out of curiosity I went back and watched the original and I found the contrast between the two movies, the grimier, grittier, darker and more horror feel of the original fascinating, so in a way I'm actually glad I saw them in that order.
 
I saw terminator 2 first also, on tv. They were playing it hella times on tv etc. and then I watched terminator 1 on tv. I watched a YouTube video of Siskel and ebert and they said it seems like it was supposed to be a surprise that Arnold swarnzeegger was a good guy in the second one, because he was a bad guy in the first. But then said the trailer ruined that surprised if you had watched the trailer first. I didn’t watch the trailer. But for me, it was a surprise that Arnold was a bad guy in the first one because I saw the second first so I assumed he was just supposed to be a good guy and I just simply couldn’t understand it at first when I was watching the first one, I said, why is he a bad guy I don’t get it. I was hella young etc
 
Idiotron dijo:
Question for everyone:
Have any of you seen Terminator before T2 came out?
I did as a little kid in 1990 and back then, it was a slasher movie. All the sci fi elements (cyborgs, Skynet, time travel) were just window dressing for a silent killer movie.
The movie plays out exactly the same as Halloween 1 & 2 (down to the male protagonist blowing himself up with the killer).
T2 had more action but T-1000 is still a horror movie villain (he even uses blades to brutally murder people).
T3 wasn't horror and that was the first one that sucked.

The sci fi aspect isn't what Terminator is about, that's why everything after T2 is a failure.

If (or rather "when") they'll make another one, they need to make a medium budget horror movie ($50 million at most) in order for it to succeed.
Presiona para expandir...
I saw T1 first but not before T2 came out. I still maintain T1 is the best movie of the series by a lot.

A future war movie where it's just a small group of people escaping the machine death camps would be a good way to recapture the horror thing maybe?
 
T1 is the best in the series. T2 is kind of a sequel and a reboot at the same time when you think about it. The first film has a perfect ending and great paradox between the Conners and Reese. The second film still has some of that, but not as much. It also had a larger emphasis on horror than any of the other entries which is something I miss.

Also, the dark noirish look and feel of the series seemed to vanish after t2. Too much of the other films happen during the day time as wel.
 
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Box Office Mojo just reported 2nd weekend takes for China. Its doing half as well as Genisys. So the very market which pushed Genisys to profitability soundly rejected Dark Fate. What an embarrassment.

Pictograph showing the difference (warning, large):
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