🤝 Community Tard Baby General (includes brain dead kids) - Fundies and their genetic Fuckups; Parents of corpses in denial

They loved this child and hurt no one. I'm thankful they didn't demand the baby be put on a vent and kept alive when it still had a beating heart. If she wants to risk sepsis to carry a dead child with anencephaly, it's stupid and dangerous, but my heart still hurts for her.
I don't think anyone disagrees that loosing a wanted child is a horrific thing to go through. The issue is acting like they're so much better than people who chose to abort a brainless fetus or straight up campaigning for abortion rights to be taken away. The kooky fundie stuff is also kinda special, as is forcing living kids to look at a corpse that's been rotting for 10 days.

A brainless baby is many things, but I don't exactly agree that it's a super special awesome miracle that proves god exists (unless it's a pretty shitty god that's kind of a douche).
 
I'm surprised to see SBSK getting so much disdain. I really enjoy Chris' work and never got exploitative vibes off him. He drove quite a long way to spend time with that schizophrenic dude after he sent him a frantic email and waited for many hours to see him. He spends time with the parents and asks some very insightful and genuine questions to both the children and their families.

His interaction with the kids is engaged, kind, and bright. Maybe he seems patronising in how he communicates with them because he creates a lot of emphasis and expression to keep and explore their attention with him, and to make them feel at ease. The kids enjoy him and I don't think he would get much of a reaction from them as a stranger if he was not so expressive and direct.

He does a shitload of fundraising for the children, too. If there's any way to show awareness and offer understanding of those who are different, I think one on one interviews with people like Chris give less of a sideshow vibe than a TV show with dramatic music and entire film crews.
 
I don't think anyone disagrees that loosing a wanted child is a horrific thing to go through. The issue is acting like they're so much better than people who chose to abort a brainless fetus or straight up campaigning for abortion rights to be taken away. The kooky fundie stuff is also kinda special, as is forcing living kids to look at a corpse that's been rotting for 10 days.

A brainless baby is many things, but I don't exactly agree that it's a super special awesome miracle that proves god exists (unless it's a pretty shitty god that's kind of a douche).
The ability to feel pity and mercy is a testimony to God's love. That's true for abortion, too, and not wanting your child to suffer.

I think the pro-lifers who actually think people who choose to birth their significantly disabled children are morally superior are in the minority, and not the parents of these children. Mercy is a heart value understood by people who understand the value of life. This really isn't the forum to discuss it, but I believe that the ability to love and persevere in the face of this kind of horror is proof of God's love, including when parents choose abortion, but it's a whole lot more complex than either side wants to make it, and no one comes to KF for that.
 
I prefer the interviews with adults. People already have a terrible habit of infantilizing disabled kids, and even if he isn't that terrible about it, it shows others who watch him to be all cutesy and shit with their voices.

(Not that people dont do this with disabled adults.) 9 year olds shouldnt be treated like toddlers. Even if their 'mental age' may be lower. Presume competence.

Knew a 8 year old with CP. So many adults in his school treated him like he was 5 or younger. Hence why he clung onto the adults treating him like his age. It was really sad to see the 'inclusion' this school thought they were giving.
 
I think Chris' heart is in the right place. I think he has a savior complex and has never been really close to a disabled person, but I think he wants to learn and share what he's learned, and make a little profit off of it. I don't think he's a bad guy.
 
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This poor girl. Isnt she only going to get worse with time? This isn't living, this is a nightmare. It isn't like a simple craniofacial disorder like Treacher Collins where the face look different but ntelligence is normal. This is 100 percent potato from the cradle to the grave.

Didnt the mom say she took Luna off meds, too? Ouch.
 
His interaction with the kids is engaged, kind, and bright. Maybe he seems patronising in how he communicates with them because he creates a lot of emphasis and expression to keep and explore their attention with him, and to make them feel at ease. The kids enjoy him and I don't think he would get much of a reaction from them as a stranger if he was not so expressive and direct.
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Yeah, this little fellow is certainly enjoying his screentime.
 
I prefer the interviews with adults. People already have a terrible habit of infantilizing disabled kids, and even if he isn't that terrible about it, it shows others who watch him to be all cutesy and shit with their voices.

(Not that people dont do this with disabled adults.) 9 year olds shouldnt be treated like toddlers. Even if their 'mental age' may be lower. Presume competence.

Knew a 8 year old with CP. So many adults in his school treated him like he was 5 or younger. Hence why he clung onto the adults treating him like his age. It was really sad to see the 'inclusion' this school thought they were giving.
Powerlevel, but I had sped teachers talking to me with that stupid baby voice up until I was a senior in high school. There is no excuse for talking to any high schooler like they're a 5 year old.

I think they do it because it's part of their training, which goes to show how shitty said training is (and I highly doubt disabled people were consulted in the creation of the materials).

No matter what someone's mental age is, you should to talk to them the same way you'd talk to anyone else their age. Even people with intellectual disabilities do pick up on that shit, and it does bother them (heard about a guy with downs who would straight up tell people "you don't need to talk to me the way you talk to a dog". Dude knew what was up).
 
This poor girl. Isnt she only going to get worse with time? This isn't living, this is a nightmare. It isn't like a simple craniofacial disorder like Treacher Collins where the face look different but ntelligence is normal. This is 100 percent potato from the cradle to the grave.

Didnt the mom say she took Luna off meds, too? Ouch.
Yes its progressive her head will continue to swell until it kills her.
Powerlevel, but I had sped teachers talking to me with that stupid baby voice up until I was a senior in high school. There is no excuse for talking to any high schooler like they're a 5 year old.

I think they do it because it's part of their training, which goes to show how shitty said training is (and I highly doubt disabled people were consulted in the creation of the materials).

No matter what someone's mental age is, you should to talk to them the same way you'd talk to anyone else their age. Even people with intellectual disabilities do pick up on that shit, and it does bother them (heard about a guy with downs who would straight up tell people "you don't need to talk to me the way you talk to a dog". Dude knew what was up).
I've worked in ultra sped residential schools and we were always taught to treat them their age. If they were quite delayed you spoke non-abstract and simpler, but you did not put on baby voices. Then again this type of school requires more then just a GED/HS to work with speds. Most SPED aide jobs require only a HS/GED some not even that.
 
I don't even like it when parents use baby talk with their normal babies.

Not the placenta, the amniotic sac/uterus keeps it all contained.

There have been numerous cases of fetal skeletons being found inside the bodies of old women, which is horrifying (and rare) but shows the extent to which a woman’s body can be protected from infection, as long as nothing enters the bloodstream. The same applies to twin pregnancy where one baby dies - it’s possible to continue with the pregnancy in the hope that the other twin will be OK (obviously depends on what kind of twin pregnancy it is - a fraternal twin with no shared placenta/sac has the best chance).

I follow several cat rescue webcams, and they find dead fetal kittens on x-ray all the time. One recent rescue had pictures of the kitten
(it had been dead long enough that it looked like a blood clot with some fur and claws)
and when they x-rayed the body, they put it on "Lizard" setting because it gave the smallest picture. They were unable to determine the kitten's sex, or what might have been wrong with it.
 
How do they know Tinslee is intellectually normal? What’s wrong with her, exactly?

High blood pressure and lung disease plus a heart defect called ebstein anomaly. The heart can't pump right because one of the valves sits lower than it should, and she was premature to boot. When she was born she suffered respiratory distress.

She has paralytics and sedation, if she wakes up it is game over. Her heart will fail immediately and she will die.
 
Sad thing is in the case of Tinslee it actually went to court and there are quotes from the nurses on just what her life is in the lawsuit:
"Tinslee was born premature and suffers from a host of medical conditions including a rare heart defect (known as Ebstein's anomaly), pulmonary atresia, chronic lung disease, severe chronic pulmonary hypertension, and acute systolic heart failure among others.
She is on a tremendous amount of pharmaceutical drugs designed to keep her alive. She can only breathe with full mechanical ventilator support. Even with that support, Tinslee can only stay alive if she stays still and calm. Actions such as crying, fussing, holding her breath, or even just stress causes her to utilize oxygen much faster than she can replenish it. As a result, Tinslee must spend her days sedated, paralyzed, and sometimes restrained.
Tinslee has required artificial life support for most of her life, and has continuously been on life support since July. She is in pain. Moreover, as the evidence will show, almost every bit of medical and personal care that Tinslee receives causes her to suffer. At least 2-3 times per day, Tinslee has a "dying event," that mandates aggressive medical intervention. Events that cause Tinslee to crash include such routine things such as baths, diaper changes, positional shifts ( to prevent bedsores), or nothing at all. As the Court will hear, the standard of medical care for Tins lee is to cease treatment. Indeed, to continue treatment for Tinslee mandates that doctors violate the most sacred oath of their profession: primum non nocere ("first, do no harm").

"Cook Children's has been in constant communication with Tinslee's mother, Plaintiff herein, and has informed her of their physicians' conclusion that continuing to intervene medically is inflicting pain on Tinslee without any corresponding therapeutic benefit. Plaintiff has stated that she disagrees and believes that Tinslee is not in pain and will somehow recover. "

"Even a diaper change or crying too much can cause Tinslee’s oxygen levels to crash, requiring several nurses to disconnect her from the ventilator and manually inflate her lungs. "

"There is no medical benefit to continuing life-sustaining treatment for Tinslee and, as the evidence will show, such treatment causes her pain that she is forced to endure for no reason. Under all ethical medical standards, it is time to focus on controlling her pain rather than cruelly extending her life."

No hospital will take transfer of the child because they know its a moot point to sustain her life for her to be in agony. The courts have required Cook's Children to continue to care due to a anti-abortion group joining with the mother.

In January they pretty much gag ordered the hospital so that they could not speak the truth about the child and all info from then on had to come form court documents:
"Fort Worth, Texas (January 4, 2020)–The family of Tinslee Lewis has revoked their decision to allow Cook Children’s Medical Center to speak about the health or medical status of Tinslee Lewis. As with any of our patients, we obtain consent beforespeaking about a medical condition in accordance with HIPAA laws. With the permission withdrawn, we will respect the Lewis family’s decision"

As of October the supreme court of texas has declined to review the case so the hospital is still being forced to keep this child alive.

This site has every press release and legal document regarding this case its a very interesting and sad read:
 
You know, it's cases like this that make me wonder if the "euphoric" atheists we spend so much time mocking are actually on to something. This is far beyond ordinary pro-life retardation. This is just plain psychopathy.
 
Sad thing is in the case of Tinslee it actually went to court and there are quotes from the nurses on just what her life is in the lawsuit:
"Tinslee was born premature and suffers from a host of medical conditions including a rare heart defect (known as Ebstein's anomaly), pulmonary atresia, chronic lung disease, severe chronic pulmonary hypertension, and acute systolic heart failure among others.
She is on a tremendous amount of pharmaceutical drugs designed to keep her alive. She can only breathe with full mechanical ventilator support. Even with that support, Tinslee can only stay alive if she stays still and calm. Actions such as crying, fussing, holding her breath, or even just stress causes her to utilize oxygen much faster than she can replenish it. As a result, Tinslee must spend her days sedated, paralyzed, and sometimes restrained.
Tinslee has required artificial life support for most of her life, and has continuously been on life support since July. She is in pain. Moreover, as the evidence will show, almost every bit of medical and personal care that Tinslee receives causes her to suffer. At least 2-3 times per day, Tinslee has a "dying event," that mandates aggressive medical intervention. Events that cause Tinslee to crash include such routine things such as baths, diaper changes, positional shifts ( to prevent bedsores), or nothing at all. As the Court will hear, the standard of medical care for Tins lee is to cease treatment. Indeed, to continue treatment for Tinslee mandates that doctors violate the most sacred oath of their profession: primum non nocere ("first, do no harm").

"Cook Children's has been in constant communication with Tinslee's mother, Plaintiff herein, and has informed her of their physicians' conclusion that continuing to intervene medically is inflicting pain on Tinslee without any corresponding therapeutic benefit. Plaintiff has stated that she disagrees and believes that Tinslee is not in pain and will somehow recover. "

"Even a diaper change or crying too much can cause Tinslee’s oxygen levels to crash, requiring several nurses to disconnect her from the ventilator and manually inflate her lungs. "

"There is no medical benefit to continuing life-sustaining treatment for Tinslee and, as the evidence will show, such treatment causes her pain that she is forced to endure for no reason. Under all ethical medical standards, it is time to focus on controlling her pain rather than cruelly extending her life."

No hospital will take transfer of the child because they know its a moot point to sustain her life for her to be in agony. The courts have required Cook's Children to continue to care due to a anti-abortion group joining with the mother.

In January they pretty much gag ordered the hospital so that they could not speak the truth about the child and all info from then on had to come form court documents:
"Fort Worth, Texas (January 4, 2020)–The family of Tinslee Lewis has revoked their decision to allow Cook Children’s Medical Center to speak about the health or medical status of Tinslee Lewis. As with any of our patients, we obtain consent beforespeaking about a medical condition in accordance with HIPAA laws. With the permission withdrawn, we will respect the Lewis family’s decision"

As of October the supreme court of texas has declined to review the case so the hospital is still being forced to keep this child alive.

This site has every press release and legal document regarding this case its a very interesting and sad read:
I thought I read a post that stated that mom was never there, and she was alone all the time. Is this the case? I would think that showing that mom never visits would help the hospital's case. Keep a camera in the room, maybe also film the staff's interactions while changing diapers, etc to show how harmful it is to her. Maybe they've done this already, I don't know. Anyone forcing them to keep this baby alive is trash. This one definitely makes me MOTI.
 
I thought I read a post that stated that mom was never there, and she was alone all the time. Is this the case? I would think that showing that mom never visits would help the hospital's case. Keep a camera in the room, maybe also film the staff's interactions while changing diapers, etc to show how harmful it is to her. Maybe they've done this already, I don't know. Anyone forcing them to keep this baby alive is trash. This one definitely makes me MOTI.
Haven't read that though i did read that the mother lied under oath that they never discussed pallitative care with her when there is proof of them discussing it. Pallative care is what they wish to give her instead of multiple times per day having to do full out resusitation.
 
Haven't read that though i did read that the mother lied under oath that they never discussed pallitative care with her when there is proof of them discussing it. Pallative care is what they wish to give her instead of multiple times per day having to do full out resusitation.
What an awful human. I can't imagine forcing your own child to suffer like that. I pray that one day, they're "too late" to save her and she can finally rest.
 
I thought I read a post that stated that mom was never there, and she was alone all the time. Is this the case? I would think that showing that mom never visits would help the hospital's case. Keep a camera in the room, maybe also film the staff's interactions while changing diapers, etc to show how harmful it is to her. Maybe they've done this already, I don't know. Anyone forcing them to keep this baby alive is trash. This one definitely makes me MOTI.
Honestly, I usually wouldn't wish COVID on anyone, but it might be a mercy for this poor spud.
 
Haven't read that though i did read that the mother lied under oath that they never discussed pallitative care with her when there is proof of them discussing it. Pallative care is what they wish to give her instead of multiple times per day having to do full out resusitation.
She was lying for Jesus though. Because Jesus would have been super okay with committing perjury to force crying nurses to continue to torture a dying child for her clout.
 
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