Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

[The Ugly One]

Golarion is just Great Value Forgotten Realms.

 

[AnOminous]

You'd be surprised how much fun people have with CoC and it's way fucking simpler to run than D&D imo. It's just there's a headache in getting people to try something different but you're gonna run across this no matter what you do.

It helped everyone was already a Lovecraft fan.

 

[God of Nothing]

Golarion is just Great Value Forgotten Realms.

i like it more regardless

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

It helped everyone was already a Lovecraft fan.

You don't even need that, I've found. Pitch it out as a horror themed investigation story, if they're down with just that, you're golden.

Also some CoC GM's forget that you don't even necessarily need to CoC as purely Lovecraft. My best games according to my former group were when I ran it like 1920's two-fisted noir and pulp novel stories.

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

I like Pathfinder/Golarion lore but it's gotten shittier. I started with 1e so naturally I like the lore because it's what I played. But then come 2e even if I like the system for being lighter than 1e but not shit like DND 5e they're shitting on their world. I swear every single place with an unusual or even monarchy system is becoming a democracy that no doubt is because of Muh Drumpf. Galt was silly because it's a place in a perpetual French revolution (they let revolutionaries take over, they do well, they piss the populace off at some point, they guillotine them and start over), and sure they had to maybe eventually stop but now it's a democracy. The hold of belkzen, all orc tribes making alliances, breaking alliances, quarreling? Democracy. Also by far the funniest thing about 2e is the woke shit, combined with what they usually have as an "attitude" adjective to inform the GM. Reading "fierce non-binary kitsune" is just stupid you have to laugh. Something about non-binary specifically. If it's "female" but the backstory says they trooned out you can just skim that and ignore it.

As for their troubles as much as I like being a naughty gamer who says nigger playing a system made by people who hate me, it's fun, and it's a shame they're getting fucked by a giant like JP Morgan.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I like Pathfinder/Golarion lore but it's gotten shittier. I started with 1e so naturally I like the lore because it's what I played. But then come 2e even if I like the system for being lighter than 1e but not shit like DND 5e they're shitting on their world. I swear every single place with an unusual or even monarchy system is becoming a democracy that no doubt is because of Muh Drumpf. Galt was silly because it's a place in a perpetual French revolution (they let revolutionaries take over, they do well, they piss the populace off at some point, they guillotine them and start over), and sure they had to maybe eventually stop but now it's a democracy. The hold of belkzen, all orc tribes making alliances, breaking alliances, quarreling? Democracy. Also by far the funniest thing about 2e is the woke shit, combined with what they usually have as an "attitude" adjective to inform the GM. Reading "fierce non-binary kitsune" is just stupid you have to laugh. Something about non-binary specifically. If it's "female" but the backstory says they trooned out you can just skim that and ignore it.

As for their troubles as much as I like being a naughty gamer who says nigger playing a system made by people who hate me, it's fun, and it's a shame they're getting fucked by a giant like JP Morgan.

Pathfinder is shit and people only pretend to like it in order to use it as a 3.5 supplement.

 

[AnOminous]

Also some CoC GM's forget that you don't even necessarily need to CoC as purely Lovecraft. My best games according to my former group were when I ran it like 1920's two-fisted noir and pulp novel stories.

This is exactly what I did. You can't actually play Lovecraft straight because there wouldn't be much action and what there was would involve the party going completely insane and dying every time. One of my two longest-running campaigns was part Mob drama and the other was sort of like a mix between Lovecraft and Indiana Jones.

 

[God of Nothing]

I like Pathfinder/Golarion lore but it's gotten shittier.

i can't believe gorum killed himself unironically because he was becoming too problematic

 

[Sneedfully and Peacefully]

Pathfinder is shit and people only pretend to like it in order to use it as a 3.5 supplement.

I never played 3.5 so I have no opinion on this, I may when I'm in the mood for a crunchier system again, and some of that pf1e knowledge would at least not let me be completely new. I would have started with 4e but looking back I think that's a huge bullet dodged.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

I would have started with 4e but looking back I think that's a huge bullet dodged.

4e gets a bum rep. It's not a bad system it's just not a great one either.

 

[Manly_Brony]

There is a crippled nigger in this piece of Strixhaven promotional art. I don't know if this actually appears in the book because I would rather blow my brains out than read that shit.

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Who the fuck wants to play medieval Harry Potter with the serial number filed off?

You'd be surprised how much fun people have with CoC and it's way fucking simpler to run than D&D imo. It's just there's a headache in getting people to try something different but you're gonna run across this no matter what you do.

CoC is getting invaded as we speak but it still isn't as bad as Arc Dream or Wizards and there is some resistance if you can believe Sandy Petersen. I wish they published contemporary Cthulhu Now books again though to cordon off the faggotry or at least write more scenarios for their Magnus Hirschfeld fellating Weimar Berlin supplement. @Sheep King try playing during Roman or Medieval times if your players can't wrap their heads around being regular people with day jobs.

Also some CoC GM's forget that you don't even necessarily need to CoC as purely Lovecraft. My best games according to my former group were when I ran it like 1920's two-fisted noir and pulp novel stories.

I definitely know of several crime, military, pirate, pure medieval and Old West TTRPGs I never have to buy because CoC's system covers it like a boss.

 

[Sneed's Feed n Seed]

Somehow, I managed to get banned for fantasy racism. Played an elf and called drow a bunch of disgusting black creatures. Repeatedly. How the hell do you get offended by drow racism, they are one of the worst races in terms of lore and writing.

Semper fucking Fi. You are welcome at my table and you may sneed on my porch. But keep the monkeys away, please.

 

[The Ugly One]

Also by far the funniest thing about 2e is the woke shit, combined with what they usually have as an "attitude" adjective to inform the GM. Reading "fierce non-binary kitsune" is just stupid you have to laugh.

Universalizing 21st-century American sexual politics to a literally interdimensional plane is why I just can't deal with any of these modern publishers at all, not in video games, not in tabletop, not anywhere.

 

[Red Dragon]

I definitely know of several crime, military, pirate, pure medieval and Old West TTRPGs I never have to buy because CoC's system covers it like a boss.

You motherfuckers are making me curious, is it really a good system for all of this? I don't like cosmic horror (that's why I never checked CoC) but I'd love to put my old "martial arts/hong kong mafia" plans in motion, I even have two friends ready to play wathever I throw at them. If CoC can simulate 70s/80s kung fu/detective movies but with the right dose of crunch, I'm sold.

On another front, Golarion has some interesting places IF you ignore most of the lore and adapt some shit. The authors' political opinions are barely disguised, and they blatantly copied Forgotten Realms and Eberron to make their kitchen sink.

 

[Tri-Tachyon'sClown]

The chairs are actually so powerful that you're worse off not having one.

Christ you'd be worse off in some cases not using it even if you have fully functioning legs.

 

[Judge Dredd]

But then come 2e even if I like the system for being lighter than 1e but not shit like DND 5e they're shitting on their world. I swear every single place with an unusual or even monarchy system is becoming a democracy that no doubt is because of Muh Drumpf.

Ranted about this in the past, but here I go again. Imo, the major fuck up of PF and SF as setting is the insistence Paizo has of having every published adventure be canon. This leads to the setting quickly running out of substantial villains. All the interesting world hooks are quickly resolved. This makes running a game later in the setting near impossible as there's no adventure hooks.

 

[MazonLabs Recruitment Rep]

I definitely know of several crime, military, pirate, pure medieval and Old West TTRPGs I never have to buy because CoC's system covers it like a boss.

As long as you're going for horror with those settings, yea, CoC'll usually do the job, particularly if you need to keep lethality.

Come to think of it, I like the idea of the players as clandestine troubleshooters for a powerful Senator hunting down cultists hiding in Rome it'self or Legionaires dealing with horrors out in the frontier.

If CoC can simulate 70s/80s kung fu/detective movies but with the right dose of crunch, I'm sold.

Eh, no, it really can't. It's way too lethal, for starters. Both PC's and NPC's will go down too fast.

Look up a game called Feng Shui (I reccomend 2nd ed over 1st), Spirit of 76, or To Live and Die in HK if you want proper kung fu action. Surprisingly, the Hong Kong supplement for All Flesh Must Be Eaten actually has a pretty solid system as well. Only sticking point for you might be that they don't have a whole lot of crunch to them.

Gurps 3E's Martial Arts book is a good one if you really gotta taste the crunch.

 

[Sleazy Car Salesman]

Christ you'd be worse off in some cases not using it even if you have fully functioning legs.

Yeah that's what I meant.

On another front, Golarion has some interesting places IF you ignore most of the lore and adapt some shit. The authors' political opinions are barely disguised, and they blatantly copied Forgotten Realms and Eberron to make their kitchen sink.

"Yeah man, if you ignore all the bad parts of the setting it's actually pretty good."

 

[Brain Problems]

As long as you're going for horror with those settings, yea, CoC'll usually do the job, particularly if you need to keep lethality.

The lethality is great. It actually makes the game better and tighter and stops the absolutely retarded murderhoboing that infects every. single. D&D. campaign. ever.

Look, people want to have fun and play fantasy asshole gods, I get it, but you have no idea how refreshing it is when you take those types and suddenly show them a system that reacts appropriately to their psychopathic whims. Suddenly people play the game roleplaying as actual characters that have to think and be careful about what they say and do.

If anything it results in more interesting and satisfying scenarios than just the imaginary equivalent of kids knocking over sandcastles and crushing ants... because your PCs are the ants.

 

[Anonymus Fluhre]

I like Pathfinder/Golarion lore but it's gotten shittier. I started with 1e so naturally I like the lore because it's what I played. But then come 2e even if I like the system for being lighter than 1e but not shit like DND 5e they're shitting on their world. I swear every single place with an unusual or even monarchy system is becoming a democracy that no doubt is because of Muh Drumpf. Galt was silly because it's a place in a perpetual French revolution (they let revolutionaries take over, they do well, they piss the populace off at some point, they guillotine them and start over), and sure they had to maybe eventually stop but now it's a democracy. The hold of belkzen, all orc tribes making alliances, breaking alliances, quarreling? Democracy. Also by far the funniest thing about 2e is the woke shit, combined with what they usually have as an "attitude" adjective to inform the GM. Reading "fierce non-binary kitsune" is just stupid you have to laugh. Something about non-binary specifically. If it's "female" but the backstory says they trooned out you can just skim that and ignore it.

As for their troubles as much as I like being a naughty gamer who says nigger playing a system made by people who hate me, it's fun, and it's a shame they're getting fucked by a giant like JP Morgan.

That one NPC lore book they made was such a terrible read. Lost Omens - Legends I think it was. I feel like every major character was retconned in some way and they even made the lesbian half-orc and her tranny lover from Wraith of the Righteous Adventure Path, "major characters". Even though they were most likely to die early in it. The tranny alone is too easy to kill off due to injuries and being useless.

You motherfuckers are making me curious, is it really a good system for all of this? I don't like cosmic horror (that's why I never checked CoC) but I'd love to put my old "martial arts/hong kong mafia" plans in motion, I even have two friends ready to play wathever I throw at them. If CoC can simulate 70s/80s kung fu/detective movies but with the right dose of crunch, I'm sold.

On another front, Golarion has some interesting places IF you ignore most of the lore and adapt some shit. The authors' political opinions are barely disguised, and they blatantly copied Forgotten Realms and Eberron to make their kitchen sink.

Outgunned if you want that 80's action movie feel. Phoenix Command if you want crunch when it comes to gun combat. Boot Hill if you want something closer to 1800's gameplay where one shot and you die.