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Oh that? That's because this is the type of troon that genuinely just does it so they can get near women and rape them, or want to be raped by them due to mommy issues. Contrast to the ones that are gay men who intentionally troon out because they're angry that 95% of men won't fuck them.
You hypothetically could do something interesting with the identity shattering Eldritch robots that you have to pilot destroying your identity. And hell you can even do the trans allegory without it being a complete joke. Problem is this is pretty much your average bondage clown rape shit that you get from powered by the apocalypse. I mean I'll give the degenerate this at least they're honest about it this time.
That's more than you can say about the fucker behind dogs in the vineyard, who kept trying to pretend it's just jokes haha unless if...
Everything in the "game" is about running a narrative, and in this case it just supposed to set up BDSM toxic transbian relationships, right down to the "if any charater's aren't lesbians, they'll be forcibly made lesbians" - which is pretty fucked up on its face
I also just want to point out that a lot of what the Tranny thanks in the credits as their "Appendix N" is anime weebshit. There's a lot of Gundam, and while Gundam is better about it, most Weebshit focuses on highschool or equivalent, that is characters aged 14 or 15 to 18.
Then remember the premise of this manga is a Handler, an authority figure implied to be older, having total control of exclusively female (or "female") pilots with the setting premise punishing the girls, taking their privileges and possessions to control them, and forcing/encouraging them to have sex with each other and NPCs. Players are rewarded for RPing sex with each other and NPCs. BDSM hierarchy/power dynamics is built in the core mechanics.
And the introduction explicitly say players need to not have any hardlines about what sort of themes, topics, or actions will be roleplayed during this narrative game and you need to be ready to be "uncomfortable" - aka you need to accept the disturbing fetishes of fellow players, your comfort is unimportant.
Or in sum that up in one line:
New thread poll, how much CSAM will the tranny game creator be found with in the inevitable FBI raid?
and from my understanding the weird kinky abusive sex is completely optional in Maid RPG as opposed to a mandatory part of the mechanics in TrannyFrame.
At least in this you're supposed to fight monsters that can corrupt the characters and seduce them to their side, rather than the fash who cannot be described using more than a singular adjective.
You can't say they're trying to sneak their fetish in, that is for certain.
Most PbtA also have ERP as a focus; MonsterHearts had lots of "seduction" mechanics with a "oh no no no it doesn't HAVE to be sexual or result in sex!" off-ramp (despite it being very clear what the intent was). So I guess we can respect the Tranny in being honest about that part of their product, even if they lie about key parts of their indentity like "being a woman".
If they did that, they couldn't sit around the table with their polycule and spin yarns about abusing woman and forcing the abused women to make themselves sexually available to them.
I mean that's a large part of the game. The setting says that due to MAGICAL REALM RULES only lesbians (read: transbians & their victims) have the needed brain chemistry to pilot frames and there is currently no action by the Foundation to rework frames for non-lesbians as they have enough lesbians (which kinda runs counter to a lot of the theming about the desperate struggle agains the Eldritch, but w/e)
There is a possibility a pilot doesn't identify as lesbian, but the Handler is to remove that with conditioning and drugs.
So if you read between the lines, it is set up to give you these AGP fetish fuel options incase the normal setting of punishing the worst performing pilot between missions doesn't cram in enough rape.
1) Woman is determined to be a lesbian, forced to pilot the EVA, regardless of her thoughts on the matter and abused/raped into accepting it.
2) prototranny is determined to be a transbian via brainscan or w/e method they use. So you can have a tranny go through their full "egg hatching" including only being a woman when in their frame. Remember the Foundation uses drugs to control pilots and there is lots of mentions of "hormones".
Like I said, very little work would be needed to make this a Sissy fetish game.
3) TERF who doesn't view men as lesbians being forced onto a transbian squad with tranny handler and made to suck the girldick.
man. Talk about bisexual erasure.
Also I just want to point out Re: Mechanics vs Magical Realm:
Again, you aren't wholly out of bounds, there was some thought about mechanics as they stole from other games inbetween dilating sessions. But its still only surface deep like in most narrative games.
example, going against my own advise and going with their Tag/Identity system and "heat":
"Heat" is a metacurrency/roll-altering pool. A player must use their heat on their next roll if they have 5 or above, so its an interesting banking mechanic that encourages use, sort of like PF2e's luck mechanic.
Heat is gained via identities and tags.
Identities are player self-initiated and players can only have 4. The girls start with Dangerous, Programmed, Malfunctioning, and Wired indentities. They gain 1-3 heat when they act in a way that reinforces an 'unmarked'/untapped identity, but these identities are not discussed or spelled out in anyway and fully left to interpret action.
Tags are initiated by others and can alter results by +1 or -1. Which is interesting when you think about heirarchy based on mission results.
Players can also use a Tag to replace an Identity.
So there is this interesting mechanism where in constructing the narrative the players can lean into their character's traits and choose how much it affects their character, but if they go too deep they player will be forced to exhaust their metacurrency at the next roll instead of strategically.
And other players can choose to help each other - or sabotage each other to climb the ranks, and some enemies can also use or grant player tags.
But its all half baked.
Even when you ignore the BDSM abuse the game is designed to force...
When you have a Tag marked and its "marked" again, the player must either make it identity (replacing one of their existing ones) or reject it by acting counter to the tag 'at the earliest opportunity'. But tags can be anything. Like Identities, they are half-baked and purely narrative. And what is counter? What is the earliest opportunity?
Adding to that, while the "Remove it or embrace it" mechanic is sort of interesting for a narrative construction, given the built-in PvP nature, it is also very open to abuse/griefing where you can just call someone a slut twice in a row and now they have to be a slut as core pillar until they find something other than a slut they want to make their personality, or act counter to a slut at the next opportuntity.
If you were using this as a story writing tool to force external constraints on your narrative, Tags/Identities is a decent concept. But as a game mechanic, while there IS something there, its all just surface level and needs a lot of work to be actually viable.
I can appreciate the fact this isn't woketarded "safe horny" or "safe edgy" or whatever. It's just straight up AGP fetish material. It's bordering on self-awareness. Stunning and brave, even.
I looked at the Girl Frame's author's itch.io and it has a ton of material for Monsterhearts, so it's good to know that Girl Frame is partially born out of frustration that other PCs can say no in Monsterhearts 2e. (And there's guide for using police in Monsterhearts. It's surprising in that it offers police genuinely trying to be helpful as an option.)
I just realized: if I want to play a game about teenagers piloting mecha, having fucked up sex and getting abused by an adult GMPC, I can just play Bliss Stage. At least that game had the line "You don't get rewarded for incest." in the rulebook.
Oh that? That's because this is the type of troon that genuinely just does it so they can get near women and rape them, or want to be raped by them due to mommy issues. Contrast to the ones that are gay men who intentionally troon out because they're angry that 95% of men won't fuck them.
You hypothetically could do something interesting with the identity shattering Eldritch robots that you have to pilot destroying your identity. And hell you can even do the trans allegory without it being a complete joke. Problem is this is pretty much your average bondage clown rape shit that you get from powered by the apocalypse. I mean I'll give the degenerate this at least they're honest about it this time.
That's more than you can say about the fucker behind dogs in the vineyard, who kept trying to pretend it's just jokes haha unless if...
Because studies have shown that, for your typical "Transbian," their dating pool is almost exclusively limited to other transbians. Straight men won't touch them. Straight women won't touch them and gay women certainly won't touch them. That shit'll make a man crazy if they weren't already (Which is highly likely.)
Because studies have shown that, for your typical "Transbian," their dating pool is almost exclusively limited to other transbians. Straight men won't touch them. Straight women won't touch them and gay women certainly won't touch them. That shit'll make a man crazy if they weren't already (Which is highly likely.)
And the introduction explicitly say players need to not have any hardlines about what sort of themes, topics, or actions will be roleplayed during this narrative game and you need to be ready to be "uncomfortable" - aka you need to accept the disturbing fetishes of fellow players, your comfort is unimportant.
This game has really infuriated me. I wanted to take it at face value and not assume that it’s just fetish content. Yes, it’s upfront that you are lesbians and it’s made by a trans person; signs that it is probably fap material. But I’ve had my opinion change on games I’ve reviewed before, so I wanted to give the developer some benefit.
For instance, the description for the Mockingbird playbook:
You were human, and you tasted what it was like to be a dream. Now you’re less than either.
That kind of descriptive language isn’t in a porn game. There has to be something to this!
And it’s all just fetish crap. It’s not trying to be more narrative driven game design; it’s erotic role playing that thinks or pretends that it’s Shakespearean. I’d have more respect if it openly said that this kink-focused erp with mecha elements. Instead it’s a facade of a narrative to sneak in fetishes.
This game has really infuriated me. I wanted to take it at face value and not assume that it’s just fetish content. Yes, it’s upfront that you are lesbians and it’s made by a trans person; signs that it is probably fap material. But I’ve had my opinion change on games I’ve reviewed before, so I wanted to give the developer some benefit.
For instance, the description for the Mockingbird playbook:
That kind of descriptive language isn’t in a porn game. There has to be something to this!
And it’s all just fetish crap. It’s not trying to be more narrative driven game design; it’s erotic role playing that thinks or pretends that it’s Shakespearean. I’d have more respect if it openly said that this kink-focused erp with mecha elements. Instead it’s a facade of a narrative to sneak in fetishes.
I feel you bro. I really do. I've got the same inclination where when I read a system to try to focus on the good and not the bad. hell, I found stuff in 5e worth salvaging.
Like you said, there is SOMETHING in there, and an understanding of the genre, and how to build a narrative where pilots are constantly at each other's throats for the top slot. but its all destroyed by being a pornsick man's dream of having a group of underaged/barely-legal girls to dominate, abuse, fuck, and force them to describe slowly and in great detail, how they respond to being dominated and abused.
edit: just read the Lobotomy part. The Handler describes the torture room, how the girl they are about to abuse is restainted, and the tools they're goign to use to abuse her.
Then Handler is to make their victims describe what they're experiencing. "Describe your breathing during" "describe your eyes after" "describe your tears (as your memories are erased)" "describe your expression (as the surgeon gives you a new identity). Its the most disturbing fetish-fap, and again even worse when you realize that the media they are going for has most characters as in highschool/highschool aged.
also, while I haven't dug into them, if you look at their "appendix N", in addition to weebmedia there are several other games mentioned. I am just assuming anything 'good' about the system was stolen from one of these or from a discord contributor who, like you, wanted to believe the best in people and ignored the clear fetishism.
tl;dr: FATAL had a lot more work put into it to be a viable system. And from what I've heard from people who played it, it was a viable system if you can tolerate a more autistic d1000 GURPS. But that wasn't the focus of the designer; the maximum anal circumference tables were what they cared about and everything else is window dressing.
Because studies have shown that, for your typical "Transbian," their dating pool is almost exclusively limited to other transbians. Straight men won't touch them. Straight women won't touch them and gay women certainly won't touch them. That shit'll make a man crazy if they weren't already (Which is highly likely.)
Transbians are final form of jailhouse gay. They AGP-troon out to live out their lesbian porn dreams, then discover they can only enact their lesbian harem fetishes with other porn-sick AGP men because free-use BDSM polycules are what porn-sick straight(ish) men want, not lesbians.
Have the Tale of the Tenacious Unicorn Ranch, aka "The Tranch" or "Alpacashwitz". A group of paranoid trannies* armed with the greatest Taticool weapons, aiming to create a "Trans-inclusive working ranch for 'healing'", grifting money due to this and 'taking care of alpaca'.
The Tranch grifted along for years, literally destroying their land to the point it their destruction could be observed from space. But the end didn't come Trump's Fascist government of Nazi CHUDs, nor even accusations of two FtMs that they were used as serf labor and forced to live outside in an RV and not allowed into the main house with the other trannies. All it took to completely implode the Tranch was a mentally ill woman with BDP entering the tranch and all the Trannies descending to in-fighting trying to get a piece of that real natal poontang.
The moral of the story is don't think for a second any of these AGP jailhousers wouldn't burn down their entire lives and community if getting some real pussy was an option. "Consent Accidents" wouldn't even start to cover it.
*technically it was a bunch of trannies and one gay man who was the pre-troonout husband of a pre-op tranny. As the only person with a real job, this gay man was the day-to-day bankroller of the Tranch in between gofundme cash infusions.
This gay man was cucked when his Husband-now-hormone-disfigured wife was the winner of the competition for the BDP pussyhaver.
The BDP whore (Precious. I'm not making a Silence of the Lambs Joke, that is the name she uses on line) and the Victorious Troon (Bonnie) both have threads here on KWF that I'm too lazy to search and link.
Like you said, there is SOMETHING in there, and an understanding of the genre, and how to build a narrative where pilots are constantly at each other's throats for the top slot. but its all destroyed by being a pornsick man's dream of having a group of underaged/barely-legal girls to dominate, abuse, fuck, and force them to describe slowly and in great detail, how they respond to being dominated and abused.
Faded from sight as the OSR blog scene is mostly dead and his antiwokeness and weird sex stuff is still unpopular with trannies and their allies, who are all over the place in that community. He's a bit like James Raggi, only Raggi isn't a total sperg who'd do something as dumb as pay for the rights to Encounter Critical.
Is this game RaHoWa compatible?
"Describe how violated you feel as the jew snatches money from your purse."
"Describe the nigger's stench flooding your senses and how it affects you."
I played monster hearts years ago and it was reasonably OK, but that was due to the group I played it with and no one wanting to ERP, just craft a trashy TV show. Monster Hearts is about collaboratively writing "Almost human" as a CW soap opera, and while it would be very easy for a game of MH to descend into the underage fetish rape fest like TrannyFrame, there is no mechanism to FORCE it in that direction. and if you have a group of people who really just want to imagine a trashy TV show and completely BSP-away anything racier than kissing with unbuttoned shirts, it can be entertaining.
(edit: though to be clear, the question then is "why not do something better with your time?" There are things that either more entertaining or more productive.)
That's because Monsterhearts does what TrannyFrame would have done if it wasn't complete rape fetish fuel, which is abstract out the Sexy Bits as being about attraction and not necessarily sexual desire. There is no requirement for a Monster Hearts vampire or succubus to fuck or even kiss any of the characters they 'seduce'; its very clearly IMPLIED that's to be the result, but you don't need to have characters turn gay or straight, the vampire can just have sway over them for non-sexual reasons if that works better for the crafted narrative; the 'thread' is the mechanically important part.
(Monster hearts is also about growing up and your character becoming less of an exploitative sociopath once you 'level up')
Venger is still around. There was a VengerCon this past year and and attendance seems to be up due to Sandy Peterson attending (mostly due to SP also being in Wisconsin)
Get your VengerCon '26 tickets now!
He's still uploading vlogs but (looking at the past year) the most one got was 350 views (discussing another system) and most are sub-100 and sub-50 views. He's just too boring to be worth much attention.
Case in point, Venger has gone all-in on Midjourney/AI art, but no one gives a shit. he's not worth cancelling.
Venger is still around. There was a VengerCon this past year and and attendance seems to be up due to Sandy Peterson attending (mostly due to SP also being in Wisconsin)
He said when he talked to Black Lodge a bit ago that he would accept any convention invitation as long as they paid for his hotel room. Which, honestly, I respect, just enough ego not to pay a couple of hundred dollars, but not so much as to turn up his nose at small cons.
Maybe some reviews of the game from real purchasers will help narrow down the motivation:
Oh... so it's like reading porn and it's like cutting yourself, uh oh, this isn't looking good.
Also, a group is doing a let's play podcast of this online in July, that should be very entertaining (and horrifying):
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Here are some posts from the group's bluesky account, definitely doesn't seem like they are leaning away from the fetish aspects:
As a side note, I'm not much of a TTRPG player, I've only played a bit of 5e, so what is PbtA? Is it just an alternative system like 5e or pathfinder? Is it why there are no combat stats like HP or AC, or is the game just that incomplete? If it is meant to not have combat stats how do you see who wins a fight?
Trannies do generally want some form of non-existence, 41% try for it. I do think that language is somewhat a mix of existential horror tropes + a dehumanization / degradation fetish. Apparently this game is based on a whole genre of writing troons made called "mechsploitation", which is based on the Armored Core 6 game where the mech pilot gets called a hound and a dog by the commander who is called a handler. It seems to be a mix of horror & hardcore transbian erotica, which is a really strange mix. I think I'll try to make a community watch thread on the community around it, it just seems to be a perfect example of troon-for-troon media and has quite a few degenerate community members involved from my brief look at it. Rather than having this outer coat of flaky paint disguising its rotten core, like most trans media which is pushed into the wider world, it just lays it all out there and relishes in it. There is no mask in T4T media. Yes, it is about raping lesbians. Yes, it is about getting off to becoming a woman. Yes, it is about getting off to being abused. This is just how AGPs act when they think they are creating things for other AGPs, they drop all pretenses.
As for positives to the game, I think this mechanic would be pretty interesting to roleplay, especially if you didn't get to pick the three things but had to roll for them: The creator of Troon Frame also made another game, A Most Bloody Devotion, this one has rules for cannibalism. I can't find this one, it just came out yesterday it seems.
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