Tabletop Roleplaying Games (D&D, Pathfinder, CoC, ETC.)

I've been playing a PF2 game, and I do not like it. They locked down the classes hard, character options are close to nonexistent in that at a given level you'll be presented with a few feat options for your class, but one will be the clear best one. Most magic got heavily gimped because of the way they set up levels for encounters and bosses; your average spell may have about a 50-50 chance of being resisted by an average monster of your level, but against a boss that drops to more like 20-80, so you'll throw something out and watch it promptly bounce right off the target. It's the same treadmill effect as Starfinder, where you gain a level, your scores go up by 1, but the target numbers all go up by 1-2, so you either barely keep pace with difficulty or you fall slightly behind. That is fucking stupid math to have in a game where building progress in a character is part of the goal.

I'm with you. Its got some solid ideas, like racial/background advancement paths and action economy, but it seemed like not all options were created equal and that's sort of what I expect from a Pathfinder product.

OTOH I haven't played it other than solo gaming some theorhetical encounters, so I try to keep my criticisms limited to "Paizo hates you, why are you giving the tranny humpers money and promoing their product?". snorts derisively while getting ready for the next D&D 4e session
also fuck gnomes.
 
you probably should mention in what genre and what your group likes. I can recommend pf2e cause the rules are mostly solid all the way through, but it might be too crunchy for some (although on paper and play are two different things) and to make everything work can be a bit too rigid depending how much your GM wants to homebrew. the pozz can be ignored since the rules are freely available.
Yeah my bad, I was half asleep when I wrote my post.
We tend to supply a lot of our own retarded details and embellishments so as long as it's fantasy it's fine. Also some kind of low skill floor options are good as we sometimes have very casual players (girlfriends and the like) join us. My friend group does also have some attempted metamancers which has made things like 5e a bit of a slog because of how homogenous classes tend to be in terms of everything either being big damage dice or advantage.
If I'm running pre-written modules, that's WMPRPG 4e, no contest.
If I'm running a regular open campaign, 1e/BX

My personal choice would be something like the original universal Chaosium system where instead of rigid classes you had a collection of skills and levels of ability at them, and instead of just rolling some d20 for everything, you used percentile dice, and attacks and defenses had physical attributes to them, and effects, like getting hit in the arm to the point it was destroyed had a different effect than just being a formless blob of hit points where you're totally functional at 1hp and then just die.

PF2e's decent. A very solid next step from 5e for those looking for a more mechanically complex experience, but it stays in the same sort of door-kicker/dungeon crawling lane vs the more social and investigative games I've come to prefer. There were some specific nitpicks like how combat centralises around the fighter that meant I didn't stick with it beyond my preferences, though I can see why others might. Though I will say that I don't think Paizo's current project to remaster the system this soon into its lifetime speaks to confidence in what they've designed & what they intend to.

As for the game I could live with forever...probably Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay. 4e as the most mechanically tight and recent, but you can do a lot with it as there's heavy overlap in systems between 2e and Dark Heresy that allows for easy conversions. Hits the sweet spot for me with support for social interaction, intrigue, investigation, and problem solving where combat is just one potential solution due to how dangerous it can be, without hitting the entirely freeform storyteller style games. I like the distinction between your character and their career (class), the feeling of consequences for your actions from social to build choices, and the feeling of progression you get for playing well and surviving.

I've been playing a PF2 game, and I do not like it. They locked down the classes hard, character options are close to nonexistent in that at a given level you'll be presented with a few feat options for your class, but one will be the clear best one. Most magic got heavily gimped because of the way they set up levels for encounters and bosses; your average spell may have about a 50-50 chance of being resisted by an average monster of your level, but against a boss that drops to more like 20-80, so you'll throw something out and watch it promptly bounce right off the target. It's the same treadmill effect as Starfinder, where you gain a level, your scores go up by 1, but the target numbers all go up by 1-2, so you either barely keep pace with difficulty or you fall slightly behind. That is fucking stupid math to have in a game where building progress in a character is part of the goal.
All very interesting and I'll do some reading and keep all of this in mind. (btw thanks to whoever linked that TB+ torrent of all those rulebook PDFs and stuff a while ago, it took days to download it all and is very appreciated)
OTOH I haven't played it other than solo gaming some theorhetical encounters, so I try to keep my criticisms limited to "Paizo hates you, why are you giving the tranny humpers money and promoing their product?".
Fair enough but paying for things is what I do after I decide I like it and only if the creators don't actively hate me.
 
also fuck gnomes.
Take that back, gnomes have ceased fucking around.
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You are still promoting their products though.
Which again I sort of so with WMPRPG 4e, but that product line is dead and buried.
True but I mostly play within my friend group where I can be candid about a company smelling of tranny stank and can just say "don't give them your money they hate you".

Believe me I'm very careful with what companies/products I support at this point.
 
Well, there's that one guy who had the Non-Ancient Rome really involved world/setting and he made his world the enemies of Radiant Citadel.

Is he that Youtuber that did a whole lot of videos going over the lore of his setting and he had a video explaining how the Radiant Citadel got completely freaking wrecked? Or am I thinking of somebody else?
Mr. Welch, he of the 'things Mr. Welch is no longer allowed to do'. He is a huge fucking Mystara sperg, but he's the only one so it's actually kind of neat.

His point was clearly and brutally made with the Radiant Citadel: a place with half-assed defenses and stupid amounts of loot for the taking is a fucking target. And that was exactly what Thyatis and Alphatia did: they sacked the Radiant Citadel.

(It's even funnier if you follow his homebrew setting updates to the very end, because it's indicated that all the ruckus was caused by the King of the Fey, Oberon, so he could get his hands on an artifact that would... let him fix a door in his extraplanar mansion so his wife would stop nagging him about it.)
 
Shiawase have a cybered up nigger gorilla. Just hire a fucking ork or troll like normal people you stupid fucking Japs.
Oh please, SR Japs are even more uber-racist than they are now.
If anyone wants to offer advice, feel free.
I'd need to check available archetypes but some sort of Monk might work for a guy who got bored beating the crap out of people in his home city and decided to go journey the world and pick fights with everyone else there, like some sort of itinerant Australian.

"Oh yeah, bitches, got your peasant asses beat raw by this stunning exemplar of true-bred nobility. Not a single drop of blood on these bare knuckles that isn't yours." Plenty of room for character development there, too, for obvious reasons.

Drunken Master would also fit especially well, since Australians love to blow off the steam that comes from living on a island filled with murderous abominations by getting pissed up at the pub then glassing a cunt in the face.

Bonus points if "Australian" is just the dialect of the nobility where he comes from and he plays the whole thing entirely straight, like its too good for everyone else to learn or even understand.

Enemy draws a greatsword.
"Oi, what kinda cunt are ya, bringing a buttah knoife like dat to an 'onest affaih?"

Shit, Barbarian would also fucking work hilariously with that idea.
(It's even funnier if you follow his homebrew setting updates to the very end, because it's indicated that all the ruckus was caused by the King of the Fey, Oberon, so he could get his hands on an artifact that would... let him fix a door in his extraplanar mansion so his wife would stop nagging him about it.)
Yeah, seems about par for the course for uber-powerful otherworldly beings.
 
Última edición:
>be us
>innajungle
>fighting giant winged serpent and horde of trolls
>magus, oracle, and ranger/shaman tussling with the groundlings while the cleric and phoenix bloodrager (really just the bloodrager, Cleric McHealbot was mostly there for in-flight refueling) fight the bastard in the air
>bloodrager gets a few good rounds in
>wizard hits it with Icy Prison
>serpent fails its save
>falls out of the air like a stone, slides down the side of a cliff, lands in a deep river
>it wisely decides to stay down there with its water breathing and not have to fight us anymore

Could have been over a lot faster if I hadn't had a brain fart and forgot that Chains of Light ignores spell resistance
Unfortunately for you, dragons all have paralysis immunity.
 
Looking forward to seeing what the wokeshit runners think is the biggest evil in-universe!
So the good news is they're not ruining the metaplot with wokeshit (at least not yet). In fact for one of the other major stories they're doing the exact opposite of what I'd expect from woketards. That's the good news, the bad news is while they're not ruining the plot with woke, they are ruining it with general dogshit writing. There are currently 3 major plotlines involving threats.

The first is the bugs are back. I mean I know they never technically left, but now they're back in a Bug City 2.0 kinda way. The tl:dr is Damien Knight, probably one of the canonically smartest/savviest normies in the setting, went full Umbrella Corp retard and started trying to weaponize bugs. He hired Otto Hendricks (of Universal Brotherhood/OG Bug City fame) and put him to work. He even went so far as to start having members of Firewatch (aka the very people he created to fight bugs) geeked for not getting with the program. Eventually he unveiled his masterplan: Operation Latvian Gambit.

Under cover of a refit/upgrade cycle he pulled 80% of Ares Corporate Military Forces back to Detroit and declared a bunch of no-go zones where he positioned his forces. A while later a totally true and honest terrorist attack supposedly wiped out the rest of Ares board, so Knight took emergency control. He ordered an attack on a bug hive, and in news that should shock no-one it turned out to be a clusterfuck. It turned out that there were far more bugs than expected, also Knights fancy new "alpha merge" bug-infested soldiers were as prone to attacking friendles as they were foes. Cue giant shitshow and whole bunch of fighting in a 3 way fight between the bugs, Ares, and a bunch of randos led by Anne Ravenheart (of Firewatch fame). Eventually however it turns out Arthur Vogel wasn't killed in the terrorist attack and he resurfaced claiming instead that Knight was killed during the fighting, and that he was now in charge, and ordered his forces to stand down. He then blamed the entire thing on the UCAS government stating they hadn't done enough to help and promptly packed the entire fucking corp up and moved it to Atlanta instead.
So now Detroit is a bug infested hellhole probably worse than Chicago ever was, and the people who owned most of the city, and provided almost all it's services have buggered off. Shit's fucking fucked, yo.

Second major plotline is sort of tied to this one. When shit first hit the fan in Detroit all outside communications were cut off. The UCAS, not knowing what was going on, decided to send the Third Army Corps in. However in the middle of bumfuck nowhere, Pennsylvania the entire formation, along with a town of 25k people just straight up fucking disappears. UCAS sends in some National Guard troops for recon and they vanish too. Months later bodies of missing soldiers start turning up, except they're all fucked up in different ways, showing signs of weird changes. Eventually live soldiers turn up as well, and they're all showing signs of changes as well, including some mundanes showing random pseudo-magical abilities like shitty knock-off X-men. It turns out they stumbled through a rift to a creepy metaplane known as Dis, and no-one knows how or why. This isn't even the first time it's happened as at the end of 5e there was a plotline where a manastorm opened a physical portal to the Faerie Court. The threat here is twofold:

1)No-one knows how or why these rifts are opening. Traditionally travel to metaplanes was only possible astrally, and even then usually only to an Initiate level magic user
2)If people, even mundanes, can physically travel to metaplanes, it's entirely possible that shit from the metaplanes can travel here

The final major plot also stems from Detroit as well. Not happy with what happened, nor with being blamed for it, UCAS unilaterally decides to pull out of the Business Recognition Accords (the things that give megacorps extraterritoriality). A little while later the UCAS is absolutely crippled by a massive series of blackouts that hit almost every major city they have left. Hell blackout is underselling it because we're talking full shutdown: no power, no matrix, no electronic devices, even people's cyberware was affected. No-one knows who did it, but the leading speculation both in universe, and out, is it was the Corporate Court punishing them.
The problem is that demonstrates a level of power that shouldn't be possible in the SR universe. A cyber attack to shutdown the matrix, okay. An attack to knock out the power grid, also possible. But all the other shit like the cyberware/regular electronics stuff flat out shouldn't be possible outside of a massive EMP. The problem is SR explicitly runs on optical computing, which isn't vulnerable to EMP, and a lot of stuff is shielded against it anyway.


Finally there are a couple of smaller threads that may or may not go anywhere

1)The dragons are getting more active in sticking their noses in stuff. The Sea Dragon is stated to have orchestrated the independence declarations of both Seattle and St Louis.
2)The possible impending ghoulpocalypse. This is a plot thread from 5E but I love it. Turns out Asamondo has been wildly underselling their population levels (especially in regards to ferals). There's also something going that's affecting ghouls, with several reporting that their hunger is becoming "sharper" and harder to control. Combine that with a bunch of ferals going mad and slaughtering a bunch of Un inspectors (hey maybe they're not all bad), and revelations of the fucked up shit Asamando has been doing to non-ghouls, and wouldn;t surprise me if someone went full exterminatus on their ass.
 
I'm wondering if there is a tabletop homebrew based on the Fable series. The lore and weapons always interested me and the skill, will, and strength stuff could work in a good homebrew.
 
he UCAS, not knowing what was going on, decided to send the Third Army Corps in.
Holy fucking shit.

THey lost ALL of III Corps?

They lost PHANTOM CORPS?

The same Corps that took on Azatlan and fought them to a standstill during the Ghost Dance Era?

They lost SIX DIVISIONS of troops? That's about 12-18 THOUSAND fucking people.

Holy shit, from the description it's like they only thought about 12 trucks were driving down the road and went through a portal..

III Corps is fucking HUGE, and as of 2E (Maybe it's different now, but I read somewhere it's still one of the largest UCAS units out there) it was holding the Texarkana border and shit.

Fuck Shadowrun past 2E. They can fucking keep it.
 
There's also something going that's affecting ghouls, with several reporting that their hunger is becoming "sharper" and harder to control. Combine that with a bunch of ferals going mad and slaughtering a bunch of Un inspectors (hey maybe they're not all bad), and revelations of the fucked up shit Asamando has been doing to non-ghouls, and wouldn;t surprise me if someone went full exterminatus on their ass.

Yikes, are we really just allowing open N*crophobia like this on this board now? No autobans for using the F- word (with a hard r, no less)? MODS?!
Ignorant people allowed to just openly oppress green-and-grey bodies and vibrant diverse cultures, smh.
 
Stop being anti-ghouletic and respect the honorable independent nation of Asamando
JGIDF out in force today I see

Ignorant people allowed to just openly oppress green-and-grey bodies and vibrant diverse cultures, smh.
Reminder that You Will Never be A Woman Vampire.

Also one interesting thing I've noticed while going through some of the books for my previous posts, there's actually a couple of oblique references to ED stuff, which I wouldn't have expected given they don't have the license to it because they're retards.

First was a section at the end of Forbidden Arcana. One of the Jackpointers apparently decided it was a good idea to astrally project into an area of fucked up magic and came face to face with what is almost certainly the Horrors. It doesn't use the name but everything about the description (creepy fucked up shit, attempting to get him to make a bridge etc), combined with the fact that one of the Admins recognizes it and immediately runs off to get 3 immortal elves and a dragon, says it all.

Secondly remember T'Skrang? They're back in pog form. Again different name, and no mention of their ED background but it's blatantly them. Apparently at some point a Dragon shifted a bunch of them to the Metaplane of Beasts, which also has dinosaur shaped spirits in it because apparently one of the 6E writers definitely has a Jurassic Park fetish.
 
2)The possible impending ghoulpocalypse. This is a plot thread from 5E but I love it. Turns out Asamondo has been wildly underselling their population levels (especially in regards to ferals). There's also something going that's affecting ghouls, with several reporting that their hunger is becoming "sharper" and harder to control. Combine that with a bunch of ferals going mad and slaughtering a bunch of Un inspectors (hey maybe they're not all bad), and revelations of the fucked up shit Asamando has been doing to non-ghouls, and wouldn;t surprise me if someone went full exterminatus on their ass.
Past fucking time for Asamondo. They're fucked up even by Africa standards, what with engaging in large-scale human trafficking solely for slaughter and consumption.
The final major plot also stems from Detroit as well. Not happy with what happened, nor with being blamed for it, UCAS unilaterally decides to pull out of the Business Recognition Accords (the things that give megacorps extraterritoriality). A little while later the UCAS is absolutely crippled by a massive series of blackouts that hit almost every major city they have left. Hell blackout is underselling it because we're talking full shutdown: no power, no matrix, no electronic devices, even people's cyberware was affected. No-one knows who did it, but the leading speculation both in universe, and out, is it was the Corporate Court punishing them.
CC has it fucking coming. Also, you're excluding the possibility of a fucked-up backdoor system like in Human Revolution.

And yes, that whole Ares bug-thing is fucking retarded.
 
engaging in large-scale human trafficking solely for slaughter and consumption.

Holy shit, how did something this openly anti-semitic get published? Literally calling out Jews for being undying horrors. Fucking based.
 
A question I always wondered, how do people do romance in Tabletop? Like if it's another player than it's gay/creepy, if it's the GM then it's still gay.
A GM tried to make this little side story with our fighter and a bar maiden but I absolutely ruined it with a natural 20 and I put on a retard voice for my 3 int barbarian and I just yelled out “You want make fuck yes?” And I pissed him off. I’m very bad at turning serious campaigns into just nonsense.
 
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