Susie Green & Mermaids UK - "Trans Kid Support Charity", Susie had her underage kid get GRS

I agree that it will be harder to stop the juggernaut in situations where the tab isn’t being picked up by the tax payer, however (and I’m not in the US so this is second hand observation) medical insurance companies will likely exploit any plausible excuse not to pay up, and the drugs used as puberty blockers, the GnRH analogueclass of drugs (Leuprolide, Triptolerin, Goserelin etc) are really fucking expensive.

FWIW, I don’t think the court will completely rule out the use of these drugs for gender dysphoric adolescents, more likely they will be restricted, hopefully to the point where prescribing them becomes almost unworkable.
Healthcare in the UK is devolved to the 4 nations (England, Scotland, Wales and NI) and our legal system also varies, with some laws applying everywhere and others being specific to the region, so perhaps this judicial review will initially only apply to England &Wales? I need to look into that, nonetheless, what I suspect will happen is the final decision on prescribing will be taken out of the hands of the GIDS clinical team and given to either a specially convened panel of non-GIDS doctors and specialist social workers*, or decided in a court on a case by case basis. There is already precedent for courts to intervene in situations where a patient is too young to consent and a proposed treatment course is controversial/untested/there is disagreement between parents and doctors. If they go that route and GIDS are forced to go cap in hand to the judiciary every time they want to make a baby lesbian into a straight man it will end up being effectively banned without actually being outright banned.

Law isn’t my thing, but I believe decisions like this are made in the Family Court division of the High Court, under what is known as ‘Inherent Jurisdiction’.

Internationally, a U.K. court ruling on the capacity of children to consent to medical intervention for gender dysphoria will be a slow-bleed-out gut shot to the belly of WPATH undermining it’s credibility. It will also scare the shit out of gender medicine doctors worldwide, who are always a couple of crazy ex patients away from having their licensed revoked. There is a culture of gender doctors reporting each other to get rivals struck off, so anyone that values their livelihood/comfortable lifestyle will be forced to think twice before intervening in paediatric cases. U.K. parents who take their children abroad for these purposes will be risking child protection intervention, especially if a court has already refused NHS treatment on a specific case-by-case basis.

edited to add source for cost of Triptolerin, the NHS pays around a grand a year just for the drug cost, add in quarterly appointments for injection administration, and the bone density scans necessary to make sure transkid’s bones don‘t crumble to dust and it’s looking less and less like a ’simple pause button’.



*Also, GIDS own top social worker is suing them: https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/gids-concerns/

Sadly, the social worker job ad for the Leeds GIDS outreach is already closed to further applicants, sorry I didn’t post earlier, kiwis!


Here is the GMC’s general guidance on consent: https://www.gmc-uk.org/ethical-guidance/ethical-guidance-for-doctors/0-18-years/making-decisions

This bit seems particularly relevant,


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It is important that you assess maturity and understanding on an individual basis and with regard to the complexity and importance of the decision to be made. You should remember that a young person who has the capacity to consent to straightforward, relatively risk-free treatment may not necessarily have the capacity to consent to complex treatment involving high risks or serious consequences.
The capacity to consent can also be affected by their physical and emotional development and by changes in their health and treatment.

This is where the legal argument will be made, I suspect. The current ‘Gillick Competency’ rules came out of a legal case relating to contraceptives - having the capacity to decide to take the pill as a teenager (and make yourself purposefully temporarily infertile) is very different to beginning a pathway that means you never produce mature gametes at all.
Susie got a response from the UK government:
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https://twitter.com/Mermaids_Gender/status/1304039782457249792 (Archive)

https://mermaidsuk.org.uk/news/latest-news-gra/ (Archive)

TL;DR-

The Good News: UK government aren't going to make it easier for lunatics like Susie to troon out their kids

The Bad News: They aren't going to make it harder.
Depends how they define healthcare. Could be they change the definition from "you need to be castrated cos you like Polly Pocket and need these totally harmless pause button meds that will make you sterile and fuck your life up!!" to talking therapy, that encourages kids to work out their feelings away from the toxic influence of their munchie riddled mother - looking at you, Susie.


that falls under the definition of healthcare and rightly so, and while I speak for none other than myself, I would struggle to begrudge a confused, scared child that.


If I had to bet, here is what will happen: Evidence will come out that being a troon is linked to mother influence and autistic thought on gender roles and mental instability.

We will be told that puberty blockers are seriously bad for you - no shit, Sherlock - and their use will be binned


Healthcare will switch to talking therapies and treating underlying mental health issues.



Green is too fucking stupid, as are her genital flaying hand maidens to dare think, for a second, their end is nigh and their demise is imminent. If there's a God, I hope that someone looks into what she did to her Son. While I would never wish loss of a child on anyone, real justice would be her Son killing himself, leaving a note or record that his butchered penis is the reason for it, naming the cunt who shat him out as the sole reason.

Wishing that though is beyond even me, so I'll leave it at, I find myself hoping more and more there is a hell these days, and Green's end comes, Satan invents a new circle for her and the obnoxious pieces of shit like her, whose egos are simultaneously so massive and so fragile they're too pathetic and weak to raise boys, and they need a girl to force into their own horrible, fucked up image.
 
I don't think Susie read the same response I did. No one is going to deny trans kids APPROPRIATE treatment, notice that psychological was placed before medical.

Then we get to the real "fuck off":
I do believe that under 18s must be protected from taking decisions which could have an irreversible impact on their development. As you will know, the Gender Recognition Act does not currently enable those under 18 to apply for a Gender Recognition Certificate and there are no plans for this to change.


In other words, kids will not be allowed to transition. Not legally, anyway. And she wants to protect kid from making decisions that will leave them with long term consequences, AKA as medical transition.


And, lol, at the final brush off:
Thank you for your invitation to meet. As I am sure you can appreciate, the pressures on Ministerial time are heightened at the moment, however my officials would be pleased to meet with you in my stead.


She's not going to meet with Susie, but she'll placate her by letting some assistant meet with her instead. How Susie can spin this as some kind of win is astonishing. Then again, she can spin castrating her son as a heroic deed, so I shouldn't be surprised.
 
If there's a God, I hope that someone looks into what she did to her Son. While I would never wish loss of a child on anyone, real justice would be her Son killing himself, leaving a note or record that his butchered penis is the reason for it, naming the cunt who shat him out as the sole reason.

Wishing that though is beyond even me, so I'll leave it at, I find myself hoping more and more there is a hell these days, and Green's end comes, Satan invents a new circle for her and the obnoxious pieces of shit like her, whose egos are simultaneously so massive and so fragile they're too pathetic and weak to raise boys, and they need a girl to force into their own horrible, fucked up image.

Real justice will be her son killing her and leaving the same note.
 
Depends how they define healthcare. Could be they change the definition from "you need to be castrated cos you like Polly Pocket and need these totally harmless pause button meds that will make you sterile and fuck your life up!!" to talking therapy, that encourages kids to work out their feelings away from the toxic influence of their munchie riddled mother - looking at you, Susie.


that falls under the definition of healthcare and rightly so, and while I speak for none other than myself, I would struggle to begrudge a confused, scared child that.


If I had to bet, here is what will happen: Evidence will come out that being a troon is linked to mother influence and autistic thought on gender roles and mental instability.

We will be told that puberty blockers are seriously bad for you - no shit, Sherlock - and their use will be binned


Healthcare will switch to talking therapies and treating underlying mental health issues.



Green is too fucking stupid, as are her genital flaying hand maidens to dare think, for a second, their end is nigh and their demise is imminent. If there's a God, I hope that someone looks into what she did to her Son. While I would never wish loss of a child on anyone, real justice would be her Son killing himself, leaving a note or record that his butchered penis is the reason for it, naming the cunt who shat him out as the sole reason.

Wishing that though is beyond even me, so I'll leave it at, I find myself hoping more and more there is a hell these days, and Green's end comes, Satan invents a new circle for her and the obnoxious pieces of shit like her, whose egos are simultaneously so massive and so fragile they're too pathetic and weak to raise boys, and they need a girl to force into their own horrible, fucked up image.

The issue is that the NHS' trans clinics are under fire after the BBC found that managers were being negligent and forcing transition without actually spending any effort to make sure the kids aren't being manipulated by parents etc.
 
The issue is that the NHS' trans clinics are under fire after the BBC found that managers were being negligent and forcing transition without actually spending any effort to make sure the kids aren't being manipulated by parents etc.
Even if they weren't being manipulated by anyone, dysphoria is a mental sickness and illness and people with it need therapy to make themselves come to terms with their gender and the fact they've got a fucked world view on gender roles which makes them think "oh I is wammin as I likes wammin thangs".

Maybe some people would consider that conversion therapy but giving out titty skittles and genital flaying is not a fix.

I love how troons try to cite shit like seahorses and male penguins and gay behaviour in nature as the reason for their existence. These things exist. What does not exist is animals ripping their dicks off because they want to be female.
 
Starbucks UK is currently doing a tranny based ad campaign to try to win some reputation back (just pay your taxes guys, it's not hard) and they're selling Mermaid tail biscuits with 50p from every sale going to Susie's slush fund.
 
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Starbucks UK is currently doing a tranny based ad campaign to try to win some reputation back (just pay your taxes guys, it's not hard) and they're selling Mermaid tail biscuits with 50p from every sale going to Susie's slush fund.
It will never cease to amaze me that people will pay exorbitant amounts for their coffee when you could just take an ashtray and mix it with some hot water and get the same thing for free. I hope every troon gets a job at Starbucks just long enough to get them to cover their front hole or meat tube surgery and then quits. That's about all they are good for at this point.
 
Starbucks UK is currently doing a tranny based ad campaign to try to win some reputation back (just pay your taxes guys, it's not hard) and they're selling Mermaid tail biscuits with 50p from every sale going to Susie's slush fund.
I hope everyone remembers this when Mermaids joins NAMBLA on the ash heap of history. You made your choice, Starbucks.
 
Well well well...Mermaids just made a 180 because they are fucking scared.
The government is involved now and told them indirectly to fuck off.

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they went from this
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In a matter of seconds.
 
Well well well...Mermaids just made a 180 because they are fucking scared.
The government is involved now and told them indirectly to fuck off.

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they went from this
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In a matter of seconds.
The same shower of bastards who want people to rate their gender identity on a scale of Barbie to GI Joe? :story:
 
Well well well...Mermaids just made a 180 because they are fucking scared.
The government is involved now and told them indirectly to fuck off.

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they went from this
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In a matter of seconds.
Holy... someone should tell Mermaids to check in at the nearest chiropractor and try to get a bulk discount on consultations. That whiplash can't have been good for their necks.
 
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This shit is GOLD.

Here are the choice bits of the U.K. government’s guide for head teachers and other education professionals on the new statutory Relationships, Sex & Health Education curriculum:


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Deffo not homophobic or transphobic, all secondary age children (12 and up) should get some LGBT content, but primary schools are only encouraged to mention the existence of families with same-sex parents (ie, no teaching kids 11 years and under about gender spectrums and asking them where they personally belong on the GI Joe to Barbie spectrum).
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That’s everything Mermaids have ever published or taught in a teacher training session straight in the bin.

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The above makes it clear that anything a teacher brings in from an outside agency needs to be factual and compliant with the law, and that the school can be held legally responsible if it isn’t (ie Mermaids, Stonewall, all the other LGBTTTT orgs, even BLM, all in the bin)

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Lastly, there has been a lot of hoo-ha about removing the parental right to withdraw kids from sex ed. This is a reasonable compromise, as it means parents can withdraw their children from certain topic areas up until the point that the kid is approx one year from the legal age of sexual consent.
Tearchers aren’t going to want to do the same material twice over, so any educators/school governors with half a brain will plan to teach the bulk of those topics when the entire class cohort reaches the age where parents are no longer allowed to withdraw.


The grift is up. It’s worse for Stonewall than it is for mermaids, as their ‘Gold/Silver/Bronze Award’ ponzi scheme is now pretty much an admittance that the school policy isn’t government compliant.

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Breaking news! UK government says biology is still relevant to sex education!

I still think Boris is a joke but whoever the civil servant is who has taken over the DfE and kicked Susie Green‘s arse out of the door, I salute you!

Cannot WAIT for the official government guidance on ‘trans kids’ now.

I can’t even read Mermaid’s take on it all. The awful graphic design plus ‘reverse ferret’ plus wokey-bleating is enough to give me a migraine,

 
Holy... someone should tell Mermaids to check in at the nearest chiropractor and try to get a bulk discount on consultation. That whiplash can't have been good for their necks.
Preferably the one in York that broke that old man's back and killed him, medical malpractice would be an appropriate way for them to go after they inflicted the same on kids.
 
The issue is that the NHS' trans clinics are under fire after the BBC found that managers were being negligent and forcing transition without actually spending any effort to make sure the kids aren't being manipulated by parents etc.

as far as I can work out, what you get at GIDS is almost entirely based on which practioner’s caseload a kid is (randomly) assigned too. Some are diligent and sceptical and require at least 6 sessions before even agreeing a child has signs of gender dysphoria, others are total Susie Green and the Church of Gender believers and will stick a kiddy on GnRHa’s (and thus stunt its IQ by 10 points) as soon as mama transmunchen-by-proxy snaps her fingers.
Woke culture means that it’s the True Believers who run the show, so the paediatric psychs who are cautious and explorative keep as quiet as possible and do their work as best they can, or leave if it gets too much (hence the 35plus staff who resigned in a 3 year period).
With any mental health service their should be supervision and oversight, including by social workers (one is currently suing GIDS for making her work of safeguarding GIDS patients impossible https://www.crowdjustice.com/case/gids-concerns/) and I suspect it’s there, in supervision and oversight, that the biggest failings will be found.


This (and Keira Bell’s judicial review) is going to be where the wheels really come off of GIDS: https://www.theguardian.com/society...entity-services-for-children-and-young-people

The top doc examining GIDS is a renowned expert on neurodisability and autism, and a former president of the Royal College of Paediatrics and Child Health, so she is well placed to compare the weirdness of GIDS with other, properly organised and supervised, paediatric services.

Go get ’em, Dr Cass!

 
This shit is GOLD.

Here are the choice bits of the U.K. government’s guide for head teachers and other education professionals on the new statutory Relationships, Sex & Health Education curriculum:


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Deffo not homophobic or transphobic, all secondary age children (12 and up) should get some LGBT content, but primary schools are only encouraged to mention the existence of families with same-sex parents (ie, no teaching kids 11 years and under about gender spectrums and asking them where they personally belong on the GI Joe to Barbie spectrum).
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That’s everything Mermaids have ever published or taught in a teacher training session straight in the bin.

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The above makes it clear that anything a teacher brings in from an outside agency needs to be factual and compliant with the law, and that the school can be held legally responsible if it isn’t (ie Mermaids, Stonewall, all the other LGBTTTT orgs, even BLM, all in the bin)

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Lastly, there has been a lot of hoo-ha about removing the parental right to withdraw kids from sex ed. This is a reasonable compromise, as it means parents can withdraw their children from certain topic areas up until the point that the kid is approx one year from the legal age of sexual consent.
Tearchers aren’t going to want to do the same material twice over, so any educators/school governors with half a brain will plan to teach the bulk of those topics when the entire class cohort reaches the age where parents are no longer allowed to withdraw.


The grift is up. It’s worse for Stonewall than it is for mermaids, as their ‘Gold/Silver/Bronze Award’ ponzi scheme is now pretty much an admittance that the school policy isn’t government compliant.

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Breaking news! UK government says biology is still relevant to sex education!

I still think Boris is a joke but whoever the civil servant is who has taken over the DfE and kicked Susie Green‘s arse out of the door, I salute you!

Cannot WAIT for the official government guidance on ‘trans kids’ now.

I can’t even read Mermaid’s take on it all. The awful graphic design plus ‘reverse ferret’ plus wokey-bleating is enough to give me a migraine,


It's a thing of beauty to see non-homophobic, inclusive, education encouraged and telling LGB kids they're just "the wrong sex" discouraged. This was lovely to read, thanks for posting it.
 
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