We write shit about people that includes telling them to kill themselves, or wish their death - mostly in Minecraft, but sometimes in real life as well.
But we don't say it to them directly - that's very strongly discouraged. When we accuse someone of being a pedophile, a rapist or another form of criminal, it's mostly (not always, sadly) with evidence to support it. And again, we don't accuse them in any forum more public than the Farms, which you have to actively go to, and we aren't going to contact anyone's boss, friends, co-workers or family in an attempt to have them suffer personal consequences. Usually if someone does that sort of thing and comes here to brag about it, they get mocked, banned, and/or halal'd. About the most that users can get away with is reporting their Twitter accounts and a little publicising of any particularly blatant hypocrisy, especially if it's criminal, and even those can get you mocked and downvoted.
So we don't say it to their face, we don't say it to the people in their life, and they have to come to us to see what shit we're saying. The Tyler, the Creator tweet about cyberbullying applies to the Farms, because you
can just turn off the computer and walk away from what we put here; it doesn't apply to cancel culture and the way that, for this example Zoe Quinn made allegations about Alec Holowka that seem very likely to have been highly exaggerated, entirely for personal gain, designed to get him harassed and abandoned by his friends, peers and community, all with a blatant disregard for the negative consequences.
Did she kill him? I don't think so. Did she act like a cunt? Certainly. There's some real anger in her thread, and some hyperbolic yet earnest wishes of harm upon her, but while she certainly caused him harm, it was those who didn't wish to hear his version of events and immediately distanced themselves who hurt him more. Quinn struck the match, they made sure the fuse was burning quickly.
But of course we regard different deaths as having different significance. Grave dancing is often tacky, but it isn't a pure moral good or bad. There's certainly people in this world who I think are actively making it a worse place, whether on a small or large scale, and their deaths will be welcomed. But again, I'd post about it here, a forum which, while public, you still have to hunt for. I wouldn't put it on Twitter, I certainly wouldn't send celebratory messages to their loved ones (if any), and I wouldn't, while they're alive, make sure they know now that I think their death would improve the world directly.
All lives do not have equal value. Simple fact. Do lives have inherent value? That's a matter of opinion. But to compare your two examples, Chloe Sagal killed herself after a long history of scamming, violent mental illness, aggression and having been kicked out of every community she was part of. She had one mildly promising game to her credit but was much more known for her vicious dramamongering and ability to make people feel unsafe, all which were well-documented. Her death was then used by people, mostly troons who she had fought with, to then try and attack the Farms. Alec Holowka killed himself after a long history of mental illness, reputed to be emotionally abusive but never physically abusive, except as implied by one woman with a long history of lying. He had several successful games to his credit, including being widely recognised as a talented composer. The closest thing to documentation of his abuse are a few reports that he was uncompromising, driven, and likely had a fuller mental breakdown in the middle of 2015 but was getting much better - but these come from people who have a vested interest in being portrayed as his victim, a potential financial interest in his cancellation, and several have come in posthumously, so he cannot counter their version of events. His death was then used by people on one side to solidify Zoe Quinn as a victim, and by people on the other to try and solidify Zoe Quinn as a lying abuser.
I think it's very clear which one was better for the world, and it's not the one who had been threatening her housemates with a large knife two days prior and been kicked out of the house for her troubles. It's also very clear that no matter what level of soyboy or cuck or whatever insult you wish to throw at Holowka, he was much less the creator of the circumstances that led to his suicide than Sagal was for hers.
It seems obvious to me that he's much more deserving of pity that she is; you,
@heathercho, seem to have a differing perspective. You're welcome to it, but that you can't seem to understand why people might feel differently to you about the two is a little worrying.
