Here's an archive of the
debate stream (
a):
mega.nz download
chat-downloader output attached. 7z contains the json file. This is a post stream capture, so it doesn't catch the chat messages before they were swept (if any were).
edit: I've also attached the video comments. There were 1170 of them at the time I grabbed the video with yt-dlp. 7z contains the json file of the comments.
Styx has deleted the video. Here's the grope clip:
tarl_grope.mp4
catbox (
archive.org)
pomf.lain.la (
archive.org)
It's amazing how much one can change their opinion of something after taking a second or 3rd look.
Ngl when I had first seen this post it didn't bother me all that much. Sure it was cringy and no one should treat their girl like that especially in public and doubly especially when streaming on the immortal internet. The boob grab was meh to me and something I'm surely guilty of doing to a gf or two in my past (always consensually as a surprise weiner pinch or ball squeeze was sure to happen in retribution)I know she pushed the hand away the first time but didn't do much the second time she even leaned her had on him with a slight smile. So I was wondering why someone would be THAT upset to make this kind of post and normally like any of the millions of short Internet vids I've seen in my life I would have watched it once, thought about it for two seconds tops and then I'd just leave it at that and moved on with life never to think about it again only if I didn't just so happen to put my phone down for an hour and when I grabbed it again I watched that video again.....and boy, it's actually a whole lot more disturbing when you read between the lines.
Right from the start we can see he is intoxicated and by the glaze in his eyes he looks like he is full blown drunk. So we can infer that anything he does comes with the stipulation that "he was just a bit drunk" but experience can tell us that regular users of alcohol who drink to get drunk essentially become a different person than their sober self often exaggerating either the best of us, the worst of us or even both. Just the state alone at her chest is enough to make me physically uncomfortable and I'm not stranger to uncomfortable. It is also further proof of the level of intoxication he is under.
Now unless you make it a point to it is going to be rare that anyone watching this 16 clip is going to be looking at the girls face at the very beginning as we all see the thread title and expect him to do or say something but at the beginning she doesn't look happy it could be base level. Then this dude does the first cruel thing in this video he tells the audience "this is my darling" and turns to face her and we can see she actually lights up a bit at this term of endearment and looks to expect even a kiss maybe as she turns to face him and instead of a romantic kiss, he does the next cruel thing and gives her the medieval mammary masher live for all of the internet. Jokes aside her face shows us her surprise and disappointment at her expectation of a cute moment being crushed. This 2nd cruel act comes with others as if the breast squeeze wasn't bad enough he also does it live on the internet to be replayed for a millennia but he also totally disrespected her to his audience giving off the image that shes just another pair of tits and ass. We can add a minor cruel act in his failure to create a memorable little moment with her. A girl who REALLY loves a man will cherish and remember the most smallest of details and natural gestures that her man has done for her. These are often the things you'd never expect that mean the most to her and having her man declare his love for her live on the internet could have been one of those.
I can be confident in speculating that he is also trying to show off maybe to some of the audience who are younger or who may have pre-ordered a vagina without knowing the release date. Further speculation tells me this could have resulted from an earlier nerdier past with unfulfilled womanly desires.
Now up till now you could confuse the girls reaction as one of acceptance and of a willingly participant but we get a tell on what her true feelings right now are and that's by her pushing his hands off her chest. This is a clear declaration of her not liking this, not wanting this and/or not comfortable with this. Even if her little smile wasn't feigned when he first grabbed and she was ok or not bothered she's now clearly telling him to stop.
This next part that's probably this dudes like 6th or 7th cruel act (I already lost count) in as just about as many minutes is imo the most telling, the most disturbing, the most unnerving, the most cringe-worthy, the most concerning and the most creepy thing about this whole video and a look into the power dynamics of this relationship while also being a giant red flag for her and anyone else in a relationship...
As she pushes his hand away she has realized she has challenged him and the way she leans her head on his for just a brief moment is to coverup that challenge while also telling him without words she wasn't upset that he did that even though she obviously was. Speculation on this tells me there may be some issues in their relationship when he doesn't get what he wants or if she displays displeasure at something he did. This idea can be further proven by his immediate physical response. There's a lightning quick quiver of his lip and he pulls her into him as to say she "is his property and you don't tell me what to do, I tell you what to do and you will like it". She reads it loud and clear and this is why we get that little lean on his head with a smile. The lean is a message to him that she understands and she wasn't or isn't upset with what he did and the smile is for HIS audience telling them that what he did was totally ok and not wrong because I was cool with it.
To strengthen the validity of my thoughts of the true unseen dynamics with all of this going on is culminated in a repeat of his greatest offence so far (making it by default twice as worse) and he grabs her again!!! However, this time there wasn't that brief hesitance before grabbing her. It was more immediate, direct and from the looks more physical....
...of course we see this short 17 second clip and say it's just creepy or cringy but rarely ask why. So why did he grab her breasts again? Because they felt amazing? Maybe, was he just that horny? Probably, he was drunk looking and acting like a perv but none of those really make sense or fit the puzzle perfectly. He grabbed them again and in the way he did to display his power to both her and his audience. He also did it again to see if she got his unspoken message and had "corrected her behavior"
Speculating on this exchange alone can lead to some dark conclusions like regular physical or mental abuse. Maybe something less extreme but no less wrong in a totally dominant and subservient dynamic or even something like unrequited love. That is what I would have thought if I had only seen this grab and the last bit but thankfully there is light at the end of the tunnel...
After all of this dark nastiness I like to end it in a some what more positive way. While I'll do believe these interaction happened in the way they did for the reasons I expressed I do know that many of these things are occuring on the subconscious level where conscious thought has no part in it. Also the clip was 17 secs long absolutely everything that I THOUGHT occurred could have all been coincidence or just a misread. Also there are a lot of X factors for such a short clip. There is the addition of intoxication and impairment that's easily discernable in Styx but can't really tell with her. At sober base levels this whole dynamic could be totally reversed. We also have a live audience and a camera with a common human trend to create false personas with exaggerated traits that are used to interface with the outside public. Even the worse actor and liar in the world could fool at least one person (being me!) if they only had a dozen or so seconds to judge them.
I think it would be impossible for everything I said about two people I have no clue ever existed before to be correct. This is just speculation that come from my many years on earth and the experiences I have witnessed first hand whether through my mom, sisters, aunts or uncles, friends and even strangers.
Oh yeah about that light at the end of the tunnel..(Shit almost forgot lol)..the last little interaction we see is the girl actually challenging him back with that "Are you done yet" and while we do get a "No...only slightly" with a creepy drunken state of her chest in defiance this could go both ways either as another warning to her or it's just him trying to save face in front of the camera either way it seems to me that she isn't totally afraid to tell him how she feels and to fight back. I also think that even if I'm truth Styx is a fraction of the type of asshole he looks like here that eventually she will get sick of his shit. Lots of girls go through a "dating a bad boy" phase at least once or twice so maybe this is hers.
Plus this dude looks like his personality stinks as much as a river filled with dead people....just like the river Styx...Oh thats why he named himself that!!
