Stranger Things

[Clown Baby]

I like this show but it seems to drive some people to max level sperg.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

Hey remember this song from the 80's?

they were a little heavy on the 80s songs thing tbh, but i still enjoyed the season

 

[Agent of Z.O.G.]

Just finished watching the first episode of the second season.

Fucking hell that is some super cringy attempts at GRRRL POWER with the whole 'WHO COLD THIS MAD MAX WHO IS GOOD AT THE DIG DUG BE? OH SNAP IT IS A GIRL!" thing.

 

[frozenrunner]

Hey remember this song from the 80's?
Hey remember this shirt from the 80's?
Hey remember this movie from the 80's?
Hey remember this game from the 80's?

For fuck's sake, come on.

It's okay though.

They do lay it on a little thick in the season two premiere...

Just finished watching the first episode of the second season.

Fucking hell that is some super cringy attempts at GRRRL POWER with the whole 'WHO COLD THIS MAD MAX WHO IS GOOD AT THE DIG DUG BE? OH SNAP IT IS A GIRL!" thing.

Of course she's competent at everything and does a lot of rolling her eyes at the stupid boys. Because a female character can't ever be less skilled than the males around her at anything. Typical, tired Hollywood bullshit.

Overall though, Stranger Things is a good example of modern entertainment that tries hard to appeal to both "progressive" nuts as well as normal people. Compare it to something like Mr. Robot, which has decided Drumph two scoops raging is an integral part of the currently airing third season. I don't want sanitized, carefully designed politically correct entertainment. But I'll take that over showrunners using their heretofore pure entertainment product as a political soapbox. Especially when they're just saying what everyone else in Hollywood is saying.

When this whole "the Russians!" nonsense started happening, I heard a podcast with the showrunners of FX's The Americans where the dumbass host just had to ask them how excited they were about their show becoming more relevant due to the totally real Russian interference in the election. They both kind of sheepishly said they would prefer to just make the show they've been making instead of trying to shoehorn current politics into it. One more reason to watch one of the best shows on TV.

 

[Paralethal]

Why did they make 11 into some kind of enbie tumblroid? I like it, but they carelessly used some modern terms, that wouldn't have really been in use ("douchey", "stalker").

 

[Secret Asshole]

They do lay it on a little thick in the season two premiere...



Of course she's competent at everything and does a lot of rolling her eyes at the stupid boys. Because a female character can't ever be less skilled than the males around her at anything. Typical, tired Hollywood bullshit.

Overall though, Stranger Things is a good example of modern entertainment that tries hard to appeal to both "progressive" nuts as well as normal people. Compare it to something like Mr. Robot, which has decided Drumph two scoops raging is an integral part of the currently airing third season. I don't want sanitized, carefully designed politically correct entertainment. But I'll take that over showrunners using their heretofore pure entertainment product as a political soapbox. Especially when they're just saying what everyone else in Hollywood is saying.

When this whole "the Russians!" nonsense started happening, I heard a podcast with the showrunners of FX's The Americans where the dumbass host just had to ask them how excited they were about their show becoming more relevant due to the totally real Russian interference in the election. They both kind of sheepishly said they would prefer to just make the show they've been making instead of trying to shoehorn current politics into it. One more reason to watch one of the best shows on TV.

The whole 'Russians' thing was huge during the 1980s until the wall came down, its not really a contemporary political thing. Major spoilers follow:

Spoiler

Its obvious they didn't know what to do with Eleven. They encountered the problem in that if you give someone powers like that, it makes horror and danger trivial. So instead of figuring out how to work with that, they went with the easy route of just taking her out of the equation. I have to give them props for not doing stupid shit like having her powers just not work or some shit like that. And my favorite part of the second season was Eleven/Hopper's father-daughter dynamic, it had a lot of pathos. Sadly, it gets left by the wayside half-way through and they try to salvage it only in the last episode, in which they have to cram a ton of shit in. They also pull the cheap trick that every drama does of 'obvious misunderstanding, if we just took two seconds to think about this, it wouldn't have happened.' It just serves as a way to get Eleven out of the main plot.

With everything going on, a lot of resolution needed to be crammed into one episode, specifically the last 15 minutes. It felt like it needed one more episode, but the just wasted an episode on the whole sister thing. I know they tried to tie it in with Eleven looking for a real home and learning to use her powers to be super strong, but ultimately you don't need 45 minutes for that and you don't have enough time to develop these characters. Why are these people just following this bitch to murder randoms? She 'fixed' them? They still looked pretty fucked up to me. She wasn't a sympathetic character at all, collecting mental patients and psychopaths to murder low level goons in cold blood. You really expect me to believe this homeless girl who was raised in an institution is a crack researcher and makes sure everyone she murders did something bad? Yeah, no. She's going around killing people in cold blood and her followers only do it because they rob them blind too. Ok, sorry you had a shitty childhood, but that doesn't excuse you for being a serial murderer. How anyone could sympathize with Female Charlie Manson and her serial killer cult are beyond me. Eleven only killed in self defense or out of fear/reflex. It was obvious that shit was never going to last from the start. Also, I think that most people hated this episode as well anyway, because at the end of the day it focuses on characters that are introduced and then withdrawn, who we really don't give a shit about. We want to see Eleven interacting with the main cast, not a serial killer. Unless she is brutally murdering one, of course.

Max was clearly a replacement for Eleven, who was a more compelling character overall. Max was kinda just there. I have a feeling if they knew what to do with Eleven more, Max wouldn't even exist. Her brother felt like he had more character development than she did. The only nerdy thing she does is play arcade games. I mean shit girl, if you were truly a nerd you wouldn't be a zoomer, you're the obvious Rogue/Thief. Know your role motherfucker. Don't go half-nerd girl, go full on if you expect me to believe she can relate to them and wants to hang out. Lucas was way better written than the first season though. Which is mainly what she serves as, which is character development for him. So if you are pissed about 'grrrllll power', this character was obviously written to give more development to a male character. And because they needed a replacement for Eleven.

And Steve seriously needs to take Karate lessons or something, because this is the second time someone seriously beats his ass.

Overall, I enjoyed it despite it having some problems.

Why did they make 11 into some kind of enbie tumblroid? I like it, but they carelessly used some modern terms, that wouldn't have really been in use ("douchey", "stalker").

Because they had no idea what to do with her and wanted to contrast it with 'rebelling teens' like Max/Her Brother for sort of a thematic connection.

 

[Clown Baby]

I loled when

Spoiler

billys dad called him a faggot

 

[stets]

This show is ok. I’m just thankful that no pretentious media critics and writers have filed pieces about how the monsters are really just a metaphor for anxiety during the Reagan administration. Oh god, no, what’s this:

Is Ronald Reagan the New Monster of 'Stranger Things' Season 2?
https://www.inverse.com/article/359...ason-2-teaser-posters-trailer-villain-monster

“Stranger Things” and the sinister innocence of Reagan’s America
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/24/stranger-things-and-the-dubious-innocence-of-hawkins-indiana/

New Stranger Things S2 Trailer feat. Ronald Reagan:
Pandering to Trumpmerica?
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/08/28/25379212/new-stranger-things-s2-trailer-enlists-ronald-reagan-in-apparent-effort-to-bum-everyone-outpander-to-trumpmeric

Please kill me.

 

[DeadwastePrime]

This show is ok. I’m just thankful that no pretentious media critics and writers have filed pieces about how the monsters are really just a metaphor for anxiety during the Reagan administration. Oh god, no, what’s this:

Is Ronald Reagan the New Monster of 'Stranger Things' Season 2?
https://www.inverse.com/article/359...ason-2-teaser-posters-trailer-villain-monster

“Stranger Things” and the sinister innocence of Reagan’s America
https://www.salon.com/2017/10/24/stranger-things-and-the-dubious-innocence-of-hawkins-indiana/

New Stranger Things S2 Trailer feat. Ronald Reagan:
Pandering to Trumpmerica?
http://www.thestranger.com/slog/2017/08/28/25379212/new-stranger-things-s2-trailer-enlists-ronald-reagan-in-apparent-effort-to-bum-everyone-outpander-to-trumpmeric

Please kill me.

i thought everyone liked reagan. that's why he won 47 states or something during reelection

 

[stets]

i thought everyone liked reagan. that's why he won 47 states or something during reelection

49 - everything but Minnesota (home state of his opponent) and D.C. (most liberal part of the country).
fftopic:fftopic:fftopic:fftopic:fftopic:fftopic:

 

[QT 219]

Thought Season 1 was good and Season 2 was better, just in a different way. As far as I can tell, the showrunners are completely ignoring the Internet and just writing good sci-fi/horror against an 80's backdrop. Also, the sperg in me loves the DnD comparisons (Vale of Shadows, Demogorgon, True Sight, Mind Flayer, etc) to the "real world" problems they face. For some who didn't grow up in the 80's, they may view the pop-culture throwbacks as trying too hard. For people like me, it's like remembering all the fun times I wasted playing Galaga and Centipede while watching it on tv.

Side Note: Really, really enjoyed Paul Reiser as Dr. Owens. Hope he's in Season 3.

Season 1: 7/10.
Season 2: 8/10.

 

[The Iconoclast]

I loled when

Spoiler

billys dad called him a faggot

because

Spoiler

he is

Also, the sperg in me loves the DnD comparisons (Vale of Shadows, Demogorgon, True Sight, Mind Flayer, etc) to the "real world" problems they face.

What if I told you that the giant spider thing in the upside down was the Thessalhydra?

 

[AnAspieWithAVengeance]

Not sure if S2 was better than S1. I think they're both on par with each other, but S1 felt like a more stronger story. Where as S2 had better stuff in it if that makes sense.

Not as hyped for S3 this time, but that might change.

 

[Dirt McGirt]

It's a flawed but all around solid show.

Also of course the obligatory cries of racism over the use of one of humanities oldest story telling themes of having characters venturing into the unknown.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...udes-unfortunate-political-subtext-ncna815751

 

[TrippinKahlua]

I have so far only watched and paid attention to the first two episodes of S2. The twist ending of the first episode shocked me pretty hard. They did a good job revealing what became.

 

[Cosmos]

I love all of the mom jokes about Steve:

Imo, he was the MVP of the season. Eleven is still my favorite character, but I really love Steve's character development. He went from being a stereotypical 80s movie jock to being a cool, sympathetic older brother figure to the rest of the cast.

 

[QT 219]

I love all of the mom jokes about Steve:
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Imo, he was the MVP of the season. Eleven is still my favorite character, but I really love Steve's character development. He went from being a stereotypical 80s movie jock to being a cool, sympathetic older brother figure to the rest of the cast.

Here's hoping Jonathan Byers dies. He really is a one-dimensional, mopey fuck.

 

[Muttnik]

Steve is the best. Definitely the standout this season.

 

[Secret Asshole]

It's a flawed but all around solid show.

Also of course the obligatory cries of racism over the use of one of humanities oldest story telling themes of having character venturing into the unknown.
https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opini...udes-unfortunate-political-subtext-ncna815751

Fucking hell. I am so tired of these stupid faggots misinterpreting the easiest fucking storytelling concepts for outrage clicks.

 

[Orth]

Mom-Steve was the best, but I didn't understand Billy's reason for being there except to be an ass to Max, and he didn't do that good of a job at it.