Stranger Things

[Maverick Vile]

A part of me almost hoped that Jason would actually join the team (since he wasn't really a bad dude) and we'd see him and Eddie teaming up and being sorta like Legolas/Gimli.

It would have been so easy for them to swing that plot line. Jason wasn't even much of an asshole. He does some dickish things, but he lost his girlfriend to what looks like an occult ritual and he draws reasonable conclusions from things he witnesses. We've seen characters who are now series mainstays act similarly with comparable knowledge.

That was what sealed it for me. I remember thinking Will crying after giving Mike his whole "Eleven needs you" speech was suspect but then Jonathan all but says "IDC if you're gay you're still my brother" and it couldn't be more obvious. If it was a bait and switch it will cause the most hilarious twitter meltdown in history, but something tells me the Duffer bros don't have the balls to do that

The Duffer Brothers didn't have the balls to kill Max and they didn't have the balls to have Eleven be responsible for the corpses in her suppressed memories. Will is basically a gay lock-in for season 5, which really sucks because media in general nowadays doesn't fucking understand the concept of having a really strong attachment for someone without wanting to hump their brains out, and Will's behavior could still be reasonable for a heterosexual male who just isn't super horny because he either lacks a potent sex drive like his friends or is simply a late bloomer. That actually happened in my group of friends. We were all super into Dungeons and Dragons and one of our friends became a pussyhound and it took all of our effort to get him to commit to D&D, and even then he'd bring around whatever bipolar uninterested skank he was courting at the time and she would invariably ruin the mood somehow. I could easily see Will reading the writing on the wall that everyone's kinda changing around him and developing new interests and he's not quite ready to give up on being a group of nerds who get together every weekend for D&D. And all of this is before cell phones and widespread Internet, so it's not like they can just get on Roll20 and play across the country. That's a big fucking deal to have a group break up like that. Crying over something like that doesn't necessarily mean you want their dick, it just means you have a soul.

But "lol, no, he's crying bcuz he wants teh buttsegs with Mike." That's precisely what we're going to get with Will. Just one more nail in the coffin of "men can't have meaningful relationships with other men without it being gay."

 

[RandallBoggs]

It would have been so easy for them to swing that plot line. Jason wasn't even much of an asshole. He does some dickish things, but he lost his girlfriend to what looks like an occult ritual and he draws reasonable conclusions from things he witnesses. We've seen characters who are now series mainstays act similarly with comparable knowledge.

The Duffer Brothers didn't have the balls to kill Max and they didn't have the balls to have Eleven be responsible for the corpses in her suppressed memories. Will is basically a gay lock-in for season 5, which really sucks because media in general nowadays doesn't fucking understand the concept of having a really strong attachment for someone without wanting to hump their brains out, and Will's behavior could still be reasonable for a heterosexual male who just isn't super horny because he either lacks a potent sex drive like his friends or is simply a late bloomer. That actually happened in my group of friends. We were all super into Dungeons and Dragons and one of our friends became a pussyhound and it took all of our effort to get him to commit to D&D, and even then he'd bring around whatever bipolar uninterested skank he was courting at the time and she would invariably ruin the mood somehow. I could easily see Will reading the writing on the wall that everyone's kinda changing around him and developing new interests and he's not quite ready to give up on being a group of nerds who get together every weekend for D&D. And all of this is before cell phones and widespread Internet, so it's not like they can just get on Roll20 and play across the country. That's a big fucking deal to have a group break up like that. Crying over something like that doesn't necessarily mean you want their dick, it just means you have a soul.

But "lol, no, he's crying bcuz he wants teh buttsegs with Mike." That's precisely what we're going to get with Will. Just one more nail in the coffin of "men can't have meaningful relationships with other men without it being gay."

Add to that “men can’t be emotional and sensitive without them being gay.”
That’s the most frustrating part with woke culture, they don’t understand their ideology is so far gone it’s circled right back to actual sexism/racism/whatever and they still genuinely believe they’re on the “right side of history” and are social justice heroes

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Also the characters act way to chill when someone reveals their gay. This is the fucking 80s. The characters should be freaking out and screaming about getting AIDs.

I do find it pretty funny how throwback shows are diluted with modern viewpoints while the ACTUAL shows of said time period have been nearly scrubbed from the internet because of how non PC they actually are. Even the 'correct' terms of their time are pretty horrible slurs today like spastics for retards, 'coloureds' etc. Hell you could still get gay slurs as a punchline on TV up until the LATE 90s.

But whatever, it's a nostalgia show, it can do this. 60s shows were all about diners, drive ins and ice cream floats and not showing blacks in any capacity, 40s shows were about wartime togetherness so don't mention how a man leaving another mans house could be considered enough to get them jailed for sodomy. It's giving the illusion of living in the era without actually being there so whatever.

The Duffer Brothers didn't have the balls to kill Max and they didn't have the balls to have Eleven be responsible for the corpses in her suppressed memories.

Eleven not being responsible is such a huge cop out. She'd have been what, 9 years old when the incident happened? You mean to tell me that a kid with superpowers couldn't lash out in a tantrum and do things that she regretted? Kids can have meltdowns over the stupidest things and most of the time it's forgotten about soon after because screaming in a supermarket isn't as permanent as killing your friends with your brain. It'd have given the CIA or whatever guys a valid reason to assume she's dangerous and really upped the stakes in the 'can she ever adjust to the real world?' scenario.

 

[Absurdist Laughter]

Add to that “men can’t be emotional and sensitive without them being gay.”
That’s the most frustrating part with woke culture, they don’t understand their ideology is so far gone it’s circled right back to actual sexism/racism/whatever and they still genuinely believe they’re on the “right side of history” and are social justice heroes

I mean Will suffered a trauma when he was younger a literal violation by another man as we find out would be gay.

 

[That Chris Guy]

Eleven not being responsible is such a huge cop out. She'd have been what, 9 years old when the incident happened? You mean to tell me that a kid with superpowers couldn't lash out in a tantrum and do things that she regretted? Kids can have meltdowns over the stupidest things and most of the time it's forgotten about soon after because screaming in a supermarket isn't as permanent as killing your friends with your brain. It'd have given the CIA or whatever guys a valid reason to assume she's dangerous and really upped the stakes in the 'can she ever adjust to the real world?' scenario.

Yeah, it seemed weird to me that they wanted to avoid attributing Eleven to their deaths. I mean, she's killed agents before no problem, so what's a pack of bullying kids that attacked and threatened to kill her?

 

[Tom Nook's Gloryhole]

Yeah, it seemed weird to me that they wanted to avoid attributing Eleven to their deaths. I mean, she's killed agents before no problem, so what's a pack of bullying kids that attacked and threatened to kill her?

To top it off, the source of her power is anger. You're telling me a kid like Eleven who is vigerously abused through constant testing would never get angry? For a series that started off being incredible with shades of grey characters, they've really resorted to black vs white flanderisations.

 

[TrippinKahlua]

Millie Bobbie Brown went to Corsica & Sardinia a couple weeks ago, got a tan, and of course, everyone thinks she’s aged ten years, while others are insisting she’s “just sixteen”

 

[Maverick Vile]

Eleven not being responsible is such a huge cop out. She'd have been what, 9 years old when the incident happened? You mean to tell me that a kid with superpowers couldn't lash out in a tantrum and do things that she regretted? Kids can have meltdowns over the stupidest things and most of the time it's forgotten about soon after because screaming in a supermarket isn't as permanent as killing your friends with your brain. It'd have given the CIA or whatever guys a valid reason to assume she's dangerous and really upped the stakes in the 'can she ever adjust to the real world?' scenario.

It would have given her a character arc to work with this season, instead her entire arc was finding out that she was the good guy all along, and that severe trauma she suppressed was just her beating up the psychopath who killed all her brothers and sisters. You might even ask why such memories were suppressed at all, considering she remembers throwing an abusive orderly against the wall and snapping the other one's neck with her mind. The "can they adjust to the real world?" stake was handled so much better with Lucy in Elfen Lied, which the Duffer Brothers have admitted to taking inspiration from for Eleven. Lucy had splattered some people in her past that really didn't deserve it, and she felt awful for it. With Stranger Things, Eleven is just the eternal woobie and you're always supposed to feel sad for her. It seems to be the only dimension to Eleven they will allow her, so her getting her powers back at the end of season 4 doesn't really feel earned so much as it felt like having to sit through a cut-scene in a video game she was forced to watch before she was allowed to have her powers back. She didn't grow as a person, why would she get her powers back, much less have them increased immensely?

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

It's especially stupid when you consider that the Duffers wear their influences on their sleeves and the whole bullying plot was blatantly based on Carrie.

 

[Morethanabitfoolish]

Not an awful season. But they baited Max dying 3 times and fail to follow through? Wimps.

 

[That Chris Guy]

It's especially stupid when you consider that the Duffers wear their influences on their sleeves and the whole bullying plot was blatantly based on Carrie.

Yeah, it absolutely was. I only said it about a dozen times while that scene was happening. Guess I should just be thankful that wasn't also the way she got her powers back.

 

[Unpaid Emotional Labourer]

So I’ve only watched the first four eps over the weekend having finally gotten around to this show, but is there going to be some answer to the identity of the “rich uncle” who left the Creels the distinctive house a la Amityville Horror? Because if not, I am assuming that they were lured there specifically so some entity could get to work on Henry. I mean, what unnamed rich uncle leaves you a creepy mansion for non-sinister reasons?

Re: gay Will. Idk lord knows I’m sick of woke but this seems to me to be a pretty realistic portrayal. That’s how a jealous teenage gay acts toward girls he considers rivals, and that’s how his uncomfortable friend who just does not want to deal with the friendship bomb that the gay is clearly agitating to drop so he keeps pretending it’s not happening acts.

Being thoroughly spoiled as is my right, occurs to me that we have quite an opportunity for some sort of like…epic season 5 scene set to Bat Out Of Hell. I mean assuming they don’t use it this season later on since it seems like the design and everything is begging for it to be used, but I feel like I would’ve heard about it if so lol. Like maybe all the dead people trapped in the underground will join in the fight before continuing the journey to their final reward/oblivion/etc. This is the scenario I proposed to my daughter who was debating various Eddie Lives scenarios with the other teenage fangirls. Lol I said oh I guess this season it’s Justice for Eddie huh and with a fanatical gleam in her eye she said “No, not justice. *Restoration*.” And I’m like…I guess keeping you off Tumblr wasn’t enough. Oh well, it’s a more wholesome use of deranged liberal white girl activist energy than other activism.

 

[Piggy Higuera]

Fuck the internet, I watched that entire season and never once thought that Will was gay, just boring. I'm sick of the erasure of sensitive boys who start listening to The Cure because their friends' cute older sisters like it and he wants something to talk to them about. He had to move to a preppy school and be the weird kid with the even weirder sister, he misses his friends, that's not gay.

Also, I loved the scene where a White guy can't sink a jumpshot intercut with a White guy who can't throw a nat 20, only to have the superior Kang and Kween show them up. Black people are good at basketball and throwing dice, perfect example of trying to be woke but just coming off as a joke from your uncle.

I didn't make it through season 3 and just watched this because I was curious what they'd do with Vecna, which was dumb, of course. Vecna is a pure force of will who made himself a lich, demigod, then a greater god. This Vecna is a shitty kid who gets trapped by scientists who take away his power, is beaten up and blasted into a hellscape by a 10 year old girl, then finds a big evil cloud that does ???something??? How did anyone watch Wayward Pines and think, "those are the guys we need to write and produce our tentpole show"? They got one good season out of them and are humping the corpse for four more.

I'm looking forward to next season's "Will, get the cock out of your mouth, the Owlbear is coming through the gates with the Beholders and Xorns! Tell Eleven to go inside Elminster's head and make him fight Orcus!" for the big finale. I feel embarrassed for liking season 1 now.

 

[pork and beans]

stranger things actor noah schnapp has come out as gay over tiktok with the caption "i guess im more similar to will than i thought"

archive(first time ive done this i hope it works alright...): https://archive.ph/cpzca

 

[BrunoMattei]

stranger things actor noah schnapp has come out as gay over tiktok with the caption "i guess im more similar to will than i thought"
sneed.mp4

archive(first time ive done this i hope it works alright...): https://archive.ph/cpzca

Poor kid. Imagine a howling screaming army of retards telling you that your character is gay because you act gay for years on end.

 

[pork and beans]

Poor kid. Imagine a howling screaming army of retards telling you that your character is gay because you act gay for years on end.

yeah, it really irks me the wrong way.
reminds me a lot of the kid who played eddie kaspbrak in It who was constantly called gay too and ended up coming out as bisexual and wearing dresses and makeup and stuff. i dont know. i dont want to say its grooming but like... isnt it?

 

[PuddIeduck]

Wasn't there a guy in a faggy YA thing who was basically harnessed into coming out too, because his character was gay?

 

[pork and beans]

there was. kit connor from heartstopper. these people are so young its creepy that theyre being pressured into revealing these private and personal information. some of them arent minors anymore but they sure were when their acting roles begun

 

[Travoltron]

So even though homosexuals would have been 1% or less of the population in the 1980s, we're going to have TWO homosexual main characters in the show now. The 80s were not like this.

 

[huecoffs02]

So even though homosexuals would have been 1% or less of the population in the 1980s, we're going to have TWO homosexual main characters in the show now. The 80s were not like this.

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