Stranger Things

[Gimmick Account]

You are giving the writers too much credit.

Are giving the writers too much credit.

Just FYI, both of you guys seem pretty dumb, and most of the shit you post is spergy and awful.
So objectively speaking you're not really the people to judge that.

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

Just FYI, both of you guys seem pretty dumb, and most of the shit you post is spergy and awful.
So objectively speaking you're not really the people to judge that.

Getting salty cause people disagree with your opinion on the internet?

 

[Gimmick Account]

Getting salty cause people disagree with your opinion on the internet?

No, I'm calling you an idiot. Case in point you're too stupid to realise you were insulting me rather than the authors.

Or that saying something isn't resolved isn't the same thing as endorsing the alternatives as a theory.

I'm just being a super friendly and helpful guy by letting you know your white-noise posting is getting fucking tedious.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

So I want to speak about Wills character.
I liked how his character developed he reminds me of someone in my life.
I liked how his sexuality is not WHO HE IS, and how they waited to even hint at it.
He also grows into his own by the time the last few episodes roll in. It's not smacked in your face, and it's also not the ONLY personality traits.
The survivors guilt in Max was also written very well and begs to question: how much do we do for family?
Not sure about the weakest point.

I disagree, Will being gay for Mike is basically his entire character now, he spends all 9 episodes angsting about coming out to Mike. Otherwise he's basically been a walking plot device. I genuinely expected him to die this season because he has absolutely nowhere to go in terms of growth but then again, I also expected this season to be way less shit that it ended up being. Ironically enough it did lead to some actual development for Jonathan since the Duffers seem to have remembered again that he's supposed to be Will's brother.

Max's arc was...alright, I guess, but it really does seem weird that she was joking around with people at the end of Season 3 only a few months after Billy died and then she's all of a sudden super gloomy now. People have tried using the "PTSD doesn't kick in immediately" but what Max suffers from isn't PTSD, it's the trauma of losing a family member and survivor's guilt and she definitely should not have taken 4+ months for the depression to kick in. Which is also further cheapened by the implication that Max acting depressed was actually the result of Vecna's meddling which just makes it even worse.

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Also, fuck everyone shilling that dumb-as-hell scene where Max is running away from Vecna. That was possibly the cheesiest, most idiotic thing I've seen on the show.

 

[Oats12345]

I disagree, Will being gay for Mike is basically his entire character now, he spends all 9 episodes angsting about coming out to Mike. Otherwise he's basically been a walking plot device. I genuinely expected him to die this season because he has absolutely nowhere to go in terms of growth but then again, I also expected this season to be way less shit that it ended up being. Ironically enough it did lead to some actual development for Jonathan since the Duffers seem to have remembered again that he's supposed to be Will's brother.

Max's arc was...alright, I guess, but it really does seem weird that she was joking around with people at the end of Season 3 only a few months after Billy died and then she's all of a sudden super gloomy now. People have tried using the "PTSD doesn't kick in immediately" but what Max suffers from isn't PTSD, it's the trauma of losing a family member and survivor's guilt and she definitely should not have taken 4+ months for the depression to kick in. Which is also further cheapened by the implication that Max acting depressed was actually the result of Vecna's meddling which just makes it even worse.

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Also, fuck everyone shilling that dumb-as-hell scene where Max is running away from Vecna. That was possibly the cheesiest, most idiotic thing I've seen on the show.

Who ever thinks Will is a great character at this point is being stupid. The dude's whole character now is being gay for Mike.

 

[P. Barnes' THOT]

For a brief, passing second I had hoped wills troubles was because he could have been in love with Eleven.

Stupid, I know but how many gays do we need in this show? There’s already robin- what are the chances that a small group of kids in a small town that 2 are gay? It’s so lame

 

[Oats12345]

For a brief, passing second I had hoped wills troubles was because he could have been in love with Eleven.

Stupid, I know but how many gays do we need in this show? There’s already robin- what are the chances that a small group of kids in a small town that 2 are gay? It’s so lame

Also the characters act way to chill when someone reveals their gay. This is the fucking 80s. The characters should be freaking out and screaming about getting AIDs.

 

[John Titor]

A little disappointed that the Mind Flayer wasn't some eldritch force of nature and we're back to man behind the man plots.

For a brief, passing second I had hoped wills troubles was because he could have been in love with Eleven.

Stupid, I know but how many gays do we need in this show? There’s already robin- what are the chances that a small group of kids in a small town that 2 are gay? It’s so lame

Considering his season 3 arc, it would have been more novel if his problem was about fearing he would lose his friends and way of life. Why does everything have to be about sexuality? I think we all experienced the fear of no longer having anything in common with your friends.

 

[Diet Purple Pepsi]

I was really hoping Vecna would be a monster from the Upside Down and not a human after I first saw him. I like some of Henry's character but the way he's shoved in like that retroactively cheapens a lot of the cool shit from previous seasons.

What I was hoping was that Vecna didn't always resemble a human and was something like a writhing mass of tentacles, but that had a specific ritual style of killing. And in order to kill/feed, it needed to induce enough distress and mental anguish since...Idk, fear and despair literally feeds him or something. He was just part of the Upside Down at first and wasn't a top predator. But when the gates opened, he was exposed to humans and found they were much more sustainable and enjoyable as food than various UD monsters. And he found that making himself more human-looking added to the unease of humans a la the uncanny valley and looking at something almost human but definitely not.

That was just off the top of my head since I was trying any mental gymnastics and headcanon to make Vecna not a human without skin. For fuck's sake he looks like a ghoul from Fallout 4, the most milquetoast and prettified design ghouls in those games. But that's an autistic rant for another thread

 

[S@credC]

Considering his season 3 arc, it would have been more novel if his problem was about fearing he would lose his friends and way of life. Why does everything have to be about sexuality? I think we all experienced the fear of no longer having anything in common with your friends.

I actually WISH they would have made it about that! Think about it. Twice in a row Will's life has been upended by Upside Down shenanigans (being kidnapped then being possessed). This kid has effectively lost 1 1/2-2 years of his life to dealing with supernatural shit. It makes perfect sense that he would want to try and recapture some of the care free childhood fun and camaraderie that was ripped away from him in the first episode. Sadly, his friends aren't dealing quite the same trauma, and they want to move on to more grown up stuff.
That's a really compelling character arc!
TBH, I also find rhis irritating because the only reason I see that people think Will might be gay is because Joyce mentioned in the first episode that his ABUSIVE DEADBEAT DAD called him a f@g. It was an insult, not an accurate observation of Will's sexuality. So the kid enjoys drawing and is a bit quiet. That doesn't automatically mean he's into dudes.

Stupid, I know but how many gays do we need in this show? There’s already robin- what are the chances that a small group of kids in a small town that 2 are gay? It’s so lame

Exactly. Not to rain on anyone's Pride parade but here's some statistics:

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Gays are a pretty small percentage of the population. The odds of two or more randomly selected kids in a small, Middle American town being gay are...not good.

 

[ArthuriusMartyrius]

I can actually buy that Will being gay was the original plan for the show seeing as Robin wasn't originally planned as a lesbian but Steve's new GF and only got turned gay because Maya Hawke decided to get maximum woke (also why the first 2/3rds of Season 3 are so weird because they not-so-subtly imply that Robin has the hots for Steve and is acting like a snarky bitch to conceal that). Which would make Will's isolation make a bit more sense.

 

[duckbutter&toejamsandwich]

Where the fuck did that sword come from?

 

[Diabeetus69]

Where the fuck did that sword come from?

It was one of the weapons that the prisoners were given when they were expected to fight the demigorgon in that pit in the gulag.
In reality, it is the sword from the first two Conan the Barbarian movies!

 

[duckbutter&toejamsandwich]

It was one of the weapons that the prisoners were given when they were expected to fight the demigorgon in that pit in the gulag.
In reality, it is the sword from the first two Conan the Barbarian movies!

I knew it looked familiar!

 

[Gender: Xenomorph]

The psy-battle inside the mind was super fucking lame.

I was expecting some Inception style special effects, but instead they just shove eachother against walls and it's super fucking lame.

 

[khaine]

Season 4 was enjoyable. Good, not great.

 

[Diet Purple Pepsi]

This board's the only place where I've been able to find actual discussion that wasn't just shitflinging and screeching over "queerbaiting" and how the Duffer brothers didn't make people's headcanons and schizo theories come true. I just wanted to find some cute fanart, trivia bullshit, and Joyce/Winona Ryder enjoyers

 

[RandallBoggs]

I'm honestly surprised so many Kiwis loved this season, it gave me GOT deja vu all over. Like holy shit was it a slogfest, and the more you actually think about things once the emotional effects wear off the worse it gets.

Spoiler: sperg

What made me enjoy the first season (second and third are totally forgettable) was the eldritch angle. I love the concept of big government messing with shit they don't fully comprehend and inevitably fucking up and unleashing something supernatural that up until now posed no risk to humanity. Vecna is such a stupid fucking villain it ruins the whole show. It was a million times scarier when the villain was this unexplained monster, but this whole time it was just an autistic schizo? Okay then. Nothing about his backstory is interesting or compelling, his goals make no sense, just why? I have so many goddamn Why's:

Why do the ritualistic murders now instead of 3 years ago or however long ago the other seasons take place? Are all the previous big bads just failed attempts by Vecna to end the world and every time he was like "no this time I'll REALLY kill everyone! Oh shit my plan failed again"? I can't take this goofy ass bootleg Eren Jaeger seriously (whoever made that comparison earlier ITT you're a genius) his design is nice and would've worked as the monster villain of another story but not this one.

Why is Eleven the shuper shpecial chosen one? If they just went ahead and said "out of all the kids we experimented on she performed the best" then fine whatever, but the entire flashback plot shows she's an incapable to mediocre psychic compared to the other kids but for some reason both the doctor and One believe in her for seemingly no reason other than the "master sees hidden potential in underachieving student" trope, which again would be whatever if they actually showed us she's an underdog instead of telling us. This season suffers from so much tell don't show it's crazy.

Why did he choose to kill the people he did? Their connections were so loose it was absurd. Oh so they all have inner demons relating to guilt and they all see the school counselor, so fucking what? When Barb died it was sad because she was a victim of circumstance, simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time and falling prey to a monster, same with Will ending up in the upside-down. I couldn't give less of a shit about any of Vecna's victims. Not even Max because the writers' obsession with jerking off shitty abusive characters as akshually #deep is tiresome.

Speaking of which this show was always cheesy and it added to its charm but holy shit was it bad this season. The whole climax boiling down to Mike yelling "I love you!" is so unbelievably stupid. Really? That's all it took, some anime-tier "you may be god, but we have the power of friendship and love on our side" conclusion? Lame and gay.
Also the CGI looks so bad, they should've kept the original dark and gloomy aesthetic since it blended it well enough, but all the scenes in that red area looked like a 2010 superhero movie.

All of this is just my main gripes, that's not even mentioning the pointless B plots, cringe dialogue and acting, annoying characters, bloated cast and the rest of the GOT S8 levels of writing

 

[Diet Purple Pepsi]

I'm honestly surprised so many Kiwis loved this season, it gave me GOT deja vu all over. Like holy shit was it a slogfest, and the more you actually think about things once the emotional effects wear off the worse it gets.

Spoiler: sperg

What made me enjoy the first season (second and third are totally forgettable) was the eldritch angle. I love the concept of big government messing with shit they don't fully comprehend and inevitably fucking up and unleashing something supernatural that up until now posed no risk to humanity. Vecna is such a stupid fucking villain it ruins the whole show. It was a million times scarier when the villain was this unexplained monster, but this whole time it was just an autistic schizo? Okay then. Nothing about his backstory is interesting or compelling, his goals make no sense, just why? I have so many goddamn Why's:

Why do the ritualistic murders now instead of 3 years ago or however long ago the other seasons take place? Are all the previous big bads just failed attempts by Vecna to end the world and every time he was like "no this time I'll REALLY kill everyone! Oh shit my plan failed again"? I can't take this goofy ass bootleg Eren Jaeger seriously (whoever made that comparison earlier ITT you're a genius) his design is nice and would've worked as the monster villain of another story but not this one.

Why is Eleven the shuper shpecial chosen one? If they just went ahead and said "out of all the kids we experimented on she performed the best" then fine whatever, but the entire flashback plot shows she's an incapable to mediocre psychic compared to the other kids but for some reason both the doctor and One believe in her for seemingly no reason other than the "master sees hidden potential in underachieving student" trope, which again would be whatever if they actually showed us she's an underdog instead of telling us. This season suffers from so much tell don't show it's crazy.

Why did he choose to kill the people he did? Their connections were so loose it was absurd. Oh so they all have inner demons relating to guilt and they all see the school counselor, so fucking what? When Barb died it was sad because she was a victim of circumstance, simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time and falling prey to a monster, same with Will ending up in the upside-down. I couldn't give less of a shit about any of Vecna's victims. Not even Max because the writers' obsession with jerking off shitty abusive characters as akshually #deep is tiresome.

Speaking of which this show was always cheesy and it added to its charm but holy shit was it bad this season. The whole climax boiling down to Mike yelling "I love you!" is so unbelievably stupid. Really? That's all it took, some anime-tier "you may be god, but we have the power of friendship and love on our side" conclusion? Lame and gay.
Also the CGI looks so bad, they should've kept the original dark and gloomy aesthetic since it blended it well enough, but all the scenes in that red area looked like a 2010 superhero movie.

All of this is just my main gripes, that's not even mentioning the pointless B plots, cringe dialogue and acting, annoying characters, bloated cast and the rest of the GOT S8 levels of writing

The biggest moment of tell don't show for me was Hopper delivering his entire life story and trauma about Vietnam in a fucking monologue with some of the worst acting I've ever seen from David Harbour.

 

[Diet Purple Pepsi]

I think the air - the particles - are toxic, but Will managed to last there for a week without clean food or clean water, so Steve managing to survive in the upside down for a handful of hours isn't beyond belief.



I can't believe they hyped Steve's firemen's axe up and then had him not use it at all. I'm fine with Nancy shooting the fuck out of Vecna - I might be the only person in this thread who doesn't take issue with Nancy developing into a badass, but I wish that Steve had gotten to charge at Vecna and hit him in the chest with the axe, causing him to fall out the window or something instead of just standing around.

I like Nancy and I think letting her be a badass is fine, but I'm still struggling to believe her actress could hold a sawed-off like that with ease. I don't like to follow Hollywood rumor-mongering and shit but if Natalia Dyer really has been anorexic during the shows run it wouldn't surprise me. I know some women are just built really petite and small but I can't help but think Nancy's got the bone strength of a baby bird whenever she's onscreen