STEM students are privileged at Duke

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By Sonia Green
September 6, 2023 | 12:00am EDT
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What picture comes to mind when you think of the stereotypical STEM student? Are they stressed? Do they struggle to balance their workload? Do they procrastinate or do they work hard and play equally as hard? Regardless of what exactly you imagine, I’m pretty sure that privilege was not a part of that image. I’m not talking about the fact that STEM students are overwhelmingly white or Asian and male or the fact that their careers generate higher salaries. I’m talking about the privilege that comes with studying STEM and how the Duke community treats students because of it.

I am not a STEM student. I never liked math. I always saw science as just another subject in school. And I never grew up with dreams of working in medicine, engineering, or a technology field. I preferred reading in English class and learning about culture in history class. I never considered this to be odd until I came to Duke. Here, it felt like everyone I met wanted to do one of three things (outside of law and consulting of course): go to medical school, become an engineer or major in computer science so that they could work at some tech company. And I wasn’t wrong. A recent survey from the career center found that the top five industries Duke students enter are technology, finance, business or management consulting, healthcare and medicine and science or research. I felt like no one wanted to write books, or make movies or learn about people and culture. As a self-proclaimed anti-STEM student, I started to see the benefits of pursuing the STEM path at Duke and how my own path lacked these advantages.

Whenever I told someone I planned to major in African & African American Studies, I was always asked what I wanted to do or given a smile and a “that’s cool." Many Duke students don’t even know what non-STEM students actually study. If you ask a Duke student to define cultural anthropology or describe what ethnic studies students are learning, they most likely cannot. But should the conversation switch to biology, chemistry or computer science, their faces light up.

How have we as a campus so easily coded STEM majors as normal while viewing the humanities and social sciences as foreign and in some cases useless? Why do we respect the rigor of labs and problem sets, but call other students “lucky” when they must read an assigned book in only a week or fully develop an original creative concept in just a few days? We are constantly told that there will be countless job opportunities available to us that have not been created yet, such as social media marketing. Then we as a society turn around and tell students in college to focus on building marketable skills (which is often just code for STEM skills like coding) and creating a stellar resume. How have these ideas translated into a greater push towards STEM?

STEM students are also privileged in terms of resources. Whenever the university allocates funds or comes across new resources, it seems like these departments always eat first. The history department sits in the Classroom Building on East Campus, across from Friedl which is home to the AAAS and cultural anthropology departments, while engineers quite literally have an entire quad to themselves. Even the quality of the classrooms varies. There are still chalkboards on campus used by — you guessed it — non-STEM professors. How are STEM buildings able to have such beautiful architecture and large glass windows, yet social science buildings are often in inconvenient locations that lead many students to avoid taking those courses? Let’s be honest; traveling to Friedl, or the Classroom Building, or East Duke or Smith Warehouse when you don’t live on East Campus is not the most convenient. Yet, it’s something that I and many other students do every week.

Even in terms of community, STEM students are privileged. Any room that they walk into they can be sure that at least one other student studies something under the STEM umbrella, and in many cases, it’s easy to find someone in their department. I have been in many rooms with pre-med, Pratt and computer science students where I was the odd one out. I was the one who said no to STEM. Even as a double major in AAAS and Visual & Media Studies, I struggle to find peers who are majoring in either department. Many social science departments at Duke have very few majors and finding a social science student who doesn’t study public policy is also a real challenge. You have the occasional STEM and humanities double major or the STEM students with a social science minor but overall, being a non-STEM student is isolating and can be lonely. Who do you talk to about your classes when your friends are all pre-med? Who do you study with when you’re surrounded by engineers? What upperclassmen can you turn to for advice when they all study computer science?

Learning to navigate this experience at Duke was an adjustment. While STEM students have no control over the resources they receive or the facilities they are given, we must acknowledge that there is some privilege there. By no means am I implying that STEM is easy. However, we must create space for non-STEM students to feel heard and let them know that whatever they choose to study is valid. STEM students are also responsible for educating themselves and using what few opportunities they have to take courses that teach them something different or challenge them in a new way. I believe that the humanities and social sciences provide useful skills that we all need to develop. Maybe then it will become clear that everything at Duke is valuable, not just STEM fields.

Sonia Green is a Trinity junior. Her column typically runs on alternate Tuesdays.
 
The toilet you flush after shitting was built by designers, the makeup you wear was developed by chemists, the food you eat was refrigerated by technology, the websites that you post your dumbass grievance screeching to was made by software engineers, the HRT you take and the surgeries you undergo to LARP as the opposite sex were developed by medical researchers and surgeons, the electricity that powers the machine that allows you to read my post telling you to go fuck yourself was generated by nuclear power plants designed by physics graduates.

The entirety of the modern world is built on STEM and the United States (and rest of the world) is suffering a severe lack of STEM students and professionals to keep it all running.

So unless you're planning to discuss the intersectional complexities of trans panda immigrant circus performers around a barrelfire in a mud hut I recommend you give some respect to your fellow STEMfags, because the world needs them a hell of a lot more than it needs you.
 
Kids who would normally major in gender/brown/queer studies are now minoring in that shit, majoring in STEM, and only passing classes and getting a job because DiVeRsItY.

It's awful because these kids are total idiots> Everyone else has to do their job while they spend all their time "networking" with fellow womyn/niggers/spics/troons and posting on Twitter.
 
The toilet you flush after shitting was built by designers, the makeup you wear was developed by chemists, the food you eat was refrigerated by technology, the websites that you post your dumbass grievance screeching to was made by software engineers, the HRT you take and the surgeries you undergo to LARP as the opposite sex were developed by medical researchers and surgeons, the electricity that powers the machine that allows you to read my post telling you to go fuck yourself was generated by nuclear power plants designed by physics graduates.

The entirety of the modern world is built on STEM and the United States (and rest of the world) is suffering a severe lack of STEM students and professionals to keep it all running.

So unless you're planning to discuss the intersectional complexities of trans panda immigrant circus performers around a barrelfire in a mud hut I recommend you give some respect to your fellow STEMfags, because the world needs them a hell of a lot more than it needs you.
Exactly. This cunt is no different from the "Decolonize science" negress who went right back to her smartphone after giving a speech about how great African "science" was.
Nihil novi sub sole.
 
Kids who would normally major in gender/brown/queer studies are now minoring in that shit, majoring in STEM, and only passing classes and getting a job because DiVeRsItY.

It's awful because these kids are total idiots> Everyone else has to do their job while they spend all their time "networking" with fellow womyn/niggers/spics/troons and posting on Twitter.
I can vouch for this one. Good chance when you see a pretty woman in a stem undergrad class she's going to be completely useless. By grad school, most of the useless ones have already gone on to get those DEI jobs. Funniest thing though, random black guys in a STEM classroom are usually solid. Complete opposite of niggers. Funny how these things work out.
 
However, we must create space for non-STEM students to feel heard and let them know that whatever they choose to study is valid.
That's cute but in the real world you have to earn that space lady, you're not owed it just because you worked hard for 4yrs on a bachelor's. Like take a step back and look at the bigger picture here in terms of what your degree brings to the table. With fields like Engineering or Chemistry the benefits are immediately obvious with their potential to improve things like medicine, agriculture, electronics, etc via research or services provided either through corporations or universities (and the bigger unis will even try to be competitive with their benefits and pay if they can afford to; everyone wants a good scientist in their fold). Very plain and tangible benefits from training keen minds into those pesky STEM fields.

What does an African American Studies major have to provide to the world beyond more African American Studies professors? Apparently not fucking much according to google because all job listings that I can see at a glance are like this:
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Assistant Professor, Assistant Professor, Assistant Professor, Studies Manager, Post-doc fellow, more assistant professor positions... oh! Finally something not professor-related. Want to see what it is?
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Christ, this is just getting embarrassing so I'll stop now.
 
Then we as a society turn around and tell students in college to focus on building marketable skills (which is often just code for STEM skills like coding) and creating a stellar resume.
Marketable skills are not ‘just code.’ They are hard skills that boil down to being literate and numerate and being able to DO a thing, and soft skills, like time keeping, ability to lead, work in teams, or self motivate, wrote at a specific level etc. the sciences leave you literate and numerate. The humanities should at least leave you literate
What skills does your degree give you? Not the ability to research, you’re being spoon fed a specific POV and if you challenged it you’d be failed. Not working with others, you just put their backs up. So what do you have to offer?
The only higher education that truly has some worth is medical school and engineering.
I actually disagree with this. All the old school humanities have value. Geography, history, languages, classics. They do have a value. History in particular is valuable. The problem we have nowadays is that people aren’t getting autistic about one specific bit of Greek history, they’re being radicalised to year zero our society.
The rest of the study streams are practical. Medicine, engineering, sciences, plumbing, electronics, agricultural stuff are all practical skill sets and thus useful. We don’t need as many historians but we are lesser for having NO good historians
Nobody needs the Mickey Mouse degrees like gender studies, film (lots of technical stuff, go learn on the job) or studies like the authoress is doing. They’re useless. Actively bad for society since they feed directly into the grievance industry
 
I am not a STEM student. I never liked math. I always saw science as just another subject in school
I see she's part of the " I can't read a Craftsman tape measure " caste. That's what a lot of construction comes down to. Can you measure shit and know metric and SAE? STEM isn't just science, it's building stuff, wood shop, welding, etc. I can build you a chair without needing a Ti-84 graphing calculator you know, just some basic bitch calculations. It may not look pretty, but it will be a place to sit your ass at the dinner table
 
It's weird how niggers want to LARP as Africans despite only sharing their skin tones.
They don't even share that in many cases. A great many African-Americans are a bit lighter than actual Africans thanks to white DNA creeping in over 200+ years of sharing a nation.
 
If she had only watched, The Simpsons

Get ready for her to grievance monger about some nigger criminal getting shot.
 
As someone who had family go to Duke (an aunt, god rest her soul)… this bitch does know that the school is famous for its engineering and STEM programs right? Like… that’s why you go to Duke.
Only actually intelligent/motivated students try to pick universities due to specific schools. Harvard and others have their law program, Yale and others have their medical program, UCI and others have their IT and CS programs, BYU has its Business program, etc etc. These people who take Grievance Studies and other generic shit could go to damn near any school because there is no super specialization or whatever for their field of study. This bitch isn't gonna go spend decades in Kenya, digging up ancient artifacts or searching for the lost civilization of Khemet; she's just learning about blackness because she's a fucking narcissist and probably isn't cut out for math or science (as she admitted). Majoring in Grievance Studies, Education, anything language arts, and others, you could go anywhere; you only choose a big name because you want the prestige of going there... and these people should be bullied by the STEM fags.
 
Bottom line -this stupid cunt will get an unemployable degree and end up as a barista, making coffee for those STEM/business grads who have real jobs, maybe working at a child care center, wiping the butts of STEM/business grads' kids.

Nothing wrong at all with taking some humanities courses, makes a person a little better-rounded. But those who get unemployable degrees, like this fucking idiot, deserve what they get - perpetual underemployment and unemployment.
 
They are heard a plenty. Will they please give the mic back to Biologists?
She's just showing her aptitude for her future job prospects. This is a woman who is going to spend her entire useless life demanding people be 'heard', that they be treated as 'valid' - as long as they're people she agrees with, of course.

She has a fortnightly column. I'm betting, sight unseen, that the vast majority of them have been whining about oppression in some way. She's just doing the only thing her degree requires of her, whining about her grievances and demanding everyone change to suit her. In a way, she's an excellent student, it's just in a field of study that makes the world a worse place and shows her to be a terrible person.
 
STEM students are also privileged in terms of resources.
Wait wait wait, I didn't catch that -- what was the first privilege of STEM students? The usefulness of their major? Is this cunt for real?
 
See how fast they discard their nice "equality vs equity" distinction out of the window? STEM subjects deserve more resources because they need them. Labs equipment, material, and personnel cost money. On the contrary, it costs literally nothing to make shit up in greviance studies.
 
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