Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Cyril Sneer]

Sounds like the Jedi. Yes, they have an army but it's an army for peace!

LOL

You could also add in slavish attachment to the incredibly corrupt Galactic Republic/United Nations as a further parallel in that vein, although the comparison eventually breaks down in that I rather sadly doubt that a JTF2 hit-team will be visiting the Secretary-General's office anytime soon...

That wasn't TNG, that was The Motion Picture that did that.

We were arguing about Romulan foreheads, not Klingons.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

Plus, have you seen a picture of John de Lancie lately? The man has aged pretty well.

That's nothing a makeup department couldn't de-age by at least 15 years.

I would enjoy e a throw away line by Q "I wanted to make you feel comfortable in your old age mon capitan" or some junk like that about why Q made himself look old. It's very Q-like.

 

[Intelligent Calcium]

If there's no Q appeareance, it's probably because a charming, omnipotent trickster who makes stuff happen by snapping his fingers doesn't fit into nuTrek. That's just entirely too quaint.

 

[Rebel Wilson]

Unless its Guinan of course. But she only stuck her fingers out like she was about to cast Sith Lightning to scare that palemale omnipotent being off.

 

[Flexo]

If there's no Q appeareance, it's probably because a charming, omnipotent trickster who makes stuff happen by snapping his fingers doesn't fit into nuTrek. That's just entirely too quaint.

Nah, he's off tormenting ponies and having tea parties.

(I also recommend the comic where he torments the trek 09 crew.)

 

[Lithos]

It would be great if they used the image from a 2014 picture of de Lancie to really rub it in Picard's face.

Dammit, I've been reading all the new Star Trek Adventures books and the stuff is so much better than nuTrek. Hell, the pre-published adventures were written by TNG writers.

Spoiler: Probably the most fun picture in all the sourcebooks.

 

[Overly Serious]

We were arguing about Romulan foreheads, not Klingons.

Aaaaand that'll be my first submission to the random.txt thread, thankyouverymuch.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

We were arguing about Romulan foreheads, not Klingons.

Whooops. Got my wires crossed with the DS9 Klingon sidetrack. My bad.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

What’s with these rumors I’ve been hearing how ViacomCBS might sell Star Trek to Seth McFarlane and NBCUniversal?

 

[Lithos]

What’s with these rumors I’ve been hearing how ViacomCBS might sell Star Trek to Seth McFarlane and NBCUniversal?

4Chan rumor... however, Stewart and McFarlane are friends (or at least work well together), and has been in both Family Guy and is a main character in American Dad. If STP can't find its legs, something could be done. All speculation, though.

 

[Godzilla@1989]

4Chan rumor... however, Stewart and McFarlane are friends (or at least work well together), and has been in both Family Guy and is a main character in American Dad. If STP can't find its legs, something could be done. All speculation, though.

I doubt Shari Redstone is willing to give ST up to McFarlane. It’ll probably be like when the owners of James Bond flat out rejected Tom Cruise playing Bond.

 

[trekkor]

btw, episode 3 has been out (at least on torrent sites) since earlier today.

• so the black chick (Raffi) Picard goes to see got fired from Starfleet some 12-14 years ago because Picard got fired as well following Mars getting fucked. Now she holds a grudge against him and lives in some shithovel in the middle of nowhere. My questions about this are innumerable - why did she get fired for basically nothing? Who the fuck was running SF at that point that Picard, their most decorated officer, got fired without any apparent backlash? How the fuck did they get away with firing Raffi without due cause? Why the fuck is she now living in such poor conditions when all the previous shows (sans STD ofc) have said everyone on Earth lives in comfort? She is obviously upset that Picard is living in a chateau and is much better off than her, but how can she not have better living conditions? Someone please answer these in a satisfying manner because right now all I can guess is Kurtzman and the other 179 producers want to make a darker and edgier Trek without earning the damn right to experiment with it.
• A bunch of Romulan ninjas come to kill Picard (and his Romulan bros). They get their ass beaten and one is tied up. Now, Picard has seen previously that the Romulan ninjas have something in their mouths that, when activated, becomes acid that quickly kills them. He knows of this because this happened only a short while ago. And does he ask his Romulan bros to check the ninja's mouth to make sure he doesn't kill himself under questioning? Of course not, Picard is a retard and doesn't think about anything. This shit annoyed me so much.
• The Romulan bros he lives with are honestly the best new characters on the show and we're probably not going to see them again for a long while (maybe aside from some calls back home).
• Also, I believe they made a slight reference to why there are Romulans with and without forehead ridges. Basically, the forehead ridges ones are northeners, which ofc doesn't explain anything exactly, but it does seem now, in-canon, they acknowledge the differences between the styles.
• For other people who have watched the episode - the Romulan brother and sister on the Cube are fucking, right? They had some weird sexual tension between them and the sister especially seemed jelaous of his relationship with the Android twin (also they laid it a bit too heavily, but you could already tell the brother is going to end up betraying whatever his current plan is).
• hey, it's Hugh! I actually like the look of him a lot. I couldn't gather much about his character atm, but seeing him was neat.
• getting strong Michael "most important person to have ever existed" Burnham vibes from the remainign Android twin. I hoped they would avoid that, but that scene with the former Romulan Borg unit was suspiciously leaning towards that.
• I already hate the new EMH, thank you. The male captain was too Han Solo like for my tastes, but we'll see how that goes.
• HE SAID "ENGAGE!" I CLAPPED WHEN HE SAID "ENGAGE"! (but really, if he'd just said it casually, it'd be fine, but the close up and zoom out to signify that it's something WE know was too much)

I took a clance at the RLM subreddit earlier to see if they were talking about the episode and the first comment from someone was saying how they couldn't post anything critical about it on r/startrek and not get it deleted.

 

[Miller]

I took a clance at the RLM subreddit earlier to see if they were talking about the episode and the first comment from someone was saying how they couldn't post anything critical about it on r/startrek and not get it deleted.

I think it has been like that since STD season 1. I've heard last year that they were deleting posts that had a link to the RLM parody of STD season 2.
Sadly, Reddit is not the only place where they control the narrative, most big fansites or forums are like that. TrekMovie is cancer, TrekCore censors the website and the Faceberg group, some mods on TrekBBS even wanted to ban all discussions related to The Orville. Perhaps I don't know the internet well enough but it seems that the number of places where you can be critical of those shows is getting smaller.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

The Romulan bros he lives with are honestly the best new characters on the show and we're probably not going to see them again for a long while (maybe aside from some calls back home).

Agreed. Out of everything in the series so far, they are the only thing I genuinely like.

... Except for that fucking magic time-machine Tricorder thing she pulled last episode.

hey, it's Hugh! I actually like the look of him a lot. I couldn't gather much about his character atm, but seeing him was neat.

Wait, that was Hugh? I've gotta go back and re-watch that scene now.

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And did we really need to establish they vape in the 24th Century? Really? Was the "vaping" market that big of a sector for you to capture, guys?

 

[Miller]

And did we really need to establish they vape in the 24th Century? Really? Was the "vaping" market that big of a sector for you to capture, guys?

The captain of the not-Firefly was smoking a cigar when he met Picard. Seeing that strong black woman vape was also retarded, especially since Tom Paris said on Voyager: "Smoking is a bad habit. My species gave it up centuries ago, when we finally got it into our heads it was killing us."

 

[Tookie]

The captain of the not-Firefly was smoking a cigar when he met Picard. Seeing that strong black woman vape was also exceptional, especially since Tom Paris said on Voyager: "Smoking is a bad habit. My species gave it up centuries ago, when we finally got it into our heads it was killing us."

There were humans smoking in the TOS movies so that's not entirely accurate. The vape was definitely stupid but cigars will never go out of style.

I'm more perturbed that the Federation has gone from an optimistic utopia to staging 9/11 on Mars. SYNTHS CAN'T MELT DURANIUM BEAMS

 

[Quantum Diabetes]

It's lost to the ages, but I had seen a fanfic where Kirk visited Voyager and dropkicked Neelix out an airlock.
Now that's something worth watchinh.

 

[Fluoxetine Man]

Sounds like the Jedi. Yes, they have an army but it's an army for peace!

Well, the Jedi are religion of peace...

 

[Robert James]

Question-I havnt seen Star trek since DS9 but I was under the impression the Romulans where a major galactic power on par with the Klingons or Federation, would the destruction of the homeworld really result in a huge refugee crisis? since all you'd really need to do is move them to other worlds in the Empires borders or set up new colonies in said territory,

Remember it doesn't matter if it makes canonical or logical sense they just have to be a species that you think is bad to fit the metaphor.
They already used the Klingons for STD and besides Klingons the casual watcher only knows about the Borg, the Romulans, and maybe the Cardasians. Even if they started off fresh they couldn't use the Klingons for the metaphor in fear of being called racist, the Borg are glorified machines and god forbid if they try to make the Cardassians likable in this day and age.

Mind you picking an Alien species that the average person would perceive as bad is probably one of the better decisions. It shows that they realize they have to convince the people against the refugee crisis to change their minds and not just preach to the quire.

 

[MembersSchoolPizza]

The old TNG technical manual has the math, but I seem to recall that it works out something like, "Even with a fleet of ships, evacuating a fully populated planet in any realistic time frame is essentially impossible", so a shit ton of people were always going to die, it's just a question of how big a shitton.

Ahah, here it is...

We were consulting with writer Lee Sheldon, who wanted to know how long it would take the Enterprise to evacuate the entire population of a planet for the episode "Devil's Due." Based on maximum rates mentioned here, we estimated that the transporters and shuttlecraft could bring approximately 1,250 persons per hour to the ship. It would therefore take about twelve hours to bring up 15,000 people, the theoretical maximum. If they were taking these people to a planet five light years away at Warp 9, it would take about forty-eight hours for the round trip. Adding twenty-four hours for loading and off-loading, this would average out to about 200 people an hour. If the planet had four billion inhabitants, it would therefore take the Enteprprise about 1,900 years to evacuate everyone, assuming they lived that long. (Melinda Bell points out that things would be made even worse if they had children.)

Ok, not quite as bad as I remember it. Hell, downright doable, even, with a big enough fleet. With 200 Galaxy-class ships, with no breaks and no down time, that's only... What, somewhere in the rough vicinity of 10 years of non-stop effort to evacuate the whole planet!

Of course, there were originally only 5 Galaxy Class ships, canonically, although a few more got added in DS9. Of course, between the Troi trying her hand at piloting the Enterprise, and the Dominion war, I'm not sure any are left. TNG mentions that there are colony ships that can evacuate more at a time, but presumably there aren't a lot of these, either. So depending on how much slack a colony ship can pick up for, the numbers time is probably going to go up, rather than down.