Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Found the Boomer! Shouldn't you be listening to The Beatles while eating Milk Duds? Why aren't you driving your 1987 Corvette five miles under the speed limit with the top down?

You think he is bad, I have the TV guide from when DS9 first aired somewhere and I have to get up to use the toilet at least three times a night.
 
I got the walkie talkies instead

My brother and I had this set!

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Alright, so sometimes you just gotta turn your fucking brain off with Star Trek.

This half-Klingon rage-cunt engineer launched a missile at the Cardassians. Looks like it took a wrong turn and ended up in the Badlands somewhere.

Voyager's ass-deep in the Delta Quadrant for years and they run right into the exact same missile again.

The missile talking in B'Elanna's voice is peak comedy.

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ATTENTION CARDASSIAN WORKERS.

I AM THE WRATH OF THE DISPLACED. YOU PAVED PARADISE AND PUT UP A PARKING LOT. SURRENDER THE DEPOT NOW OR WE WILL TURN IT INTO A SLAG HEAP SO THE EARTH CAN FINALLY HEAL. TODAY IS A GOOD DAY FOR YOU TO DIE. WE ARE CORRECTING HISTORY, ¡PENDEJOS!
She didn't launch it at the cardassians - they launched it at the maquis, then Torres caught it, and reverse uno'd that. It was in the badlands in the first place because it was aiming for them.

If I had been writing Nemesis I would have had Picard going up against a dark version of himself. Not an evil clone, but someone just as smart, capable, and experienced as he was. Think a Romulan Picard who is the shadowy reflection. Like Belloq to Indy in Raiders of the Lost Ark. He isn't evil per se, just he wants to get to the McGuffin first and while Picard has morals and Starfleet regulations to hamper him, Shadow Picard is willing to cut corners. He can have the Romulan military pushing him and even threatening Shadow Picard, but it's ultimately down to Picard having to outthink Shadow Picard. Of course there's a showdown at the end and the good guys win, but at a cost. Data's gone, the Enterprise is wrecked, the crew split up to new assignments, and Picard retired against his will, but he's good with it because he saved some planet or race or humanity or something and kept the McGuffin from the Romulans.
Nemesis should have been what "Fury" was in Voyager - only instead of Kes, it's Wesley who returns, all fucked up from his adventures with the Traveler and taking it out on the crew.

Final Frontier was a good Trek film at it's core, but it needed polished before shooting started. It definitely a budget, needed the SFX handled by ILM, but it has the basic story down and some of the best scenes in the series. The one where McCoy and Spock's secret pains come out (McCoy pulling the plug on his father right before a cure is found and Spock's rejection at birth by Sarek) but Kirk says he needs his pain and won't let it go or questioning "God" ("What does God need with a starship?") are classic Trek all the way.

If it had been up to me, I would have dropped the Sybok is Spock's brother angle entirely and just had him as some Vulcan guru and gotten rid of the Klingons. And dropped the whole main crew always hang out even on shore leave thing. Give them each a moment in their own lives without the rest of the crew.
The problem with ST:V is the bloat. Sybok does not need to be Spock's brother other than for one scene. And you could easily fix that by just making him some guru (like you suggested) that Spock fell in with during his youth.

Really I would have just trimmed it down to a remake of "The Way to Eden" instead of "Magicks of Megas Tu" (no really, look it up). Sybok and his groupies find a way to Sha Ka Ree - Kirk and company figure "what the hell, we're adventurers after all" (and the scene with the wheel and plaque is legit great in that film), and then when they get there, they find the fake god is holding the people on the planet hostage now until the crew carry him away. Now Kirk and co have to figure out a way to keep the fake god trapped while saving the hostages he's holding. There's your movie.

You think he is bad, I have the TV guide from when DS9 first aired somewhere and I have to get up to use the toilet at least three times a night.
I have several TV Guide voyager issues...

As well as the celebration of Trek magazine TVGuide put out.
 
Busted down to nothing, LESS than an Ensign, but Neelix had rough sex with a Klingon dommy mommy. "that’s fine, he’s the morale officer.”
It's canon that Vulcans have a far superior sense of smell than humans, so just imagine his face when he walked in and got a face full of Klingon quim musk mixed with Talaxian nut.

Remember when you could get a marshmallow holder in a box of cereal when the movie came out? Something like Rice Crispies or something like that.
You had to send in one (or more) UPC(s) from Kraft marshmallow package(s) plus IIRC $5.

I've always liked to think that that what he was wearing when he showed up on the lot that day, beard and all.
 
Those figures were always so clunky and chunky not svelte like the Star Wars figures. Probably would have got some otherwise. It's crazy there were times when a whole aisle was devoted to these ugly Trek figures. Did kids buy them or just Trekkies? Like the student in the documentary who shaved toy Sisko's head with an x-acto knife.

I had a theory lately that Paramount was able to hype-push Star Trek so hard in the early 90s because first run syndication was like free cash once they overcame the initial risks and expenditures. The syndicate channels would provide local advertising (for their own stations) while Paramount ran a hype machine in major magazines and licensing deals. But once they created UPN and delegated authority to intermediaries, there wasn't the incentive or budget to keep doing it. Of course the same could be said for good plotting because UPN is how we got Voyager and Enterprise, shows whose premises were interfered with by the network. Compare to Ds9 which was just Berman and Piller doing whatever they wanted to start with because they could sell it as a package with the popular TNG.

This is entirely schizo speculation but maybe a rabbit hole I'll jump into.
 
And that’s probably why he wouldn’t give Nurse Chapel the time of day.

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"Negative. Your body mass index is insufficient."

Because Chapel's look was so much of a downgrade from Number One

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Busted down to nothing, LESS than an Ensign, but Neelix had rough sex with a Klingon dommy mommy. "that’s fine, he’s the morale officer.”

Janeway's on Deck 11 trying to get railed by the Poor Man’s Armand Assante hologram. "That's her business."

Evan Chakotay takes her aside and asks her "hey, aren't you being kind of a bitch about this?" and she still won't back down.

Nemesis should have been what "Fury" was in Voyager - only instead of Kes, it's Wesley who returns, all fucked up from his adventures with the Traveler and taking it out on the crew.

That was such a bizarre way to close out Kes' story. "Yeah, she's going off to explore a wonderous new world with her evolved powers and shows back up a bitter, demented old crone that had a terrible time and tries to kill them all because of that." Had Lien gone psycho by that point and they were just trying to get rid of her forever?
 
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Did kids buy them or just Trekkies?
I think I told that story before earlier in the thread but I did know a kid who was like a year or two younger than me and had shitload of Star Trek toys. Like his whole room was just Star Trek toys. I was still a dumb kid then and I had zero interest in Star Trek, to me it just seemed like a boring show that only another friend of mine's dad liked. Why was this kid younger than me into a dad show? What's wrong with him?
Because Chapel's look was so much of a downgrade from Number One
It's that terrible wig!

Just started watching TOS with a younger online friend of mine. He's 30 and never watched any Star Trek. I mentioned before my re-watch regime is TNG-DS9-VOY. I only watched about a season and a half of TOS and that only while I was painting stuff. Since he wanted to start with TOS it gives me a chance to finally watch through it. We were all laughing at her bad wig the whole time, we just saw the Naked Time.
 
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