Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

[Captain Syrup]

DUTCH WAGENBAUGH JOINED THE CAST

I'm a Jay Karnes stan. He's always the best thing in whatever he's in.

He was a killer villain on Burn Notice. The only one who refused to accept defeat. Of course, Tim Matheson directed some episodes in addition to having a recurring role, so he killed Jay Karnes to make himself look strong.

 

[Calandrino]

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I fucking love science™

never forget

 

[Captain Syrup]

I fucking love science™

never forget

Kurtzman and co. are auditioning to be court jesters in our future hellscape.

Tesla is a stock company. It might as well not even make cars given how inconsequential they seem to its valuation. And yet it keeps soaring higher and higher because he keeps making these insane promises to appeal to some new age futurist hopes. It's very funny that it keeps working, though.

Also she used to be a child star on Nickelodeon, so she has been fucked by Dan Schneider and now this!

Dan giving the girl with an eating disorder a character addicted to food is the most evil thing he ever did.

My least-proud wank.

 

[Evil Peter Griffin]

Who else wants to see a custom Tilly skin in Elite Force?

Old games like that dont have the memory space for a Tilly skin.

 

[Tom Myers]

I'm a Jay Karnes stan. He's always the best thing in whatever he's in.

He was a killer villain on Burn Notice. He’s the only one who refused to accept defeat. Of course, Tim Matheson directed some episodes in addition to having a recurring role, so he killed Jay Karnes to make himself look strong.

Dutch was great and the guy he played on SoA was also good.

Dude he plays on Picard is great, but I think he mite end up a 2 episode cameo.

 

[Radical Cadre]

I've just started season four of Voyager.

I'm going to get to the series finale and still be asking "when does it get good?", aren't I? This show is a death march. Every now and again I see a pretty tree or a sexy lady but most of the time it is a goddamn Jap hitting me in the spine with the butt of his rifle and telling me in Moon to keep marching.

 

[Great President of McHell]

I've just started season four of Voyager.

I'm going to get to the series finale and still be asking "when does it get good?", aren't I? This show is a death march. Every now and again I see a pretty tree or a sexy lady but most of the time it is a goddamn Jap hitting me in the spine with the butt of his rifle and telling me in Moon to keep marching.

Season 4 is when it starts to improved but unfortunatly Voyager never hits the same highs as its predecessors and the ending is really unsatisfying.

 

[Commissar Fuklaw]

I've just started season four of Voyager.

I'm going to get to the series finale and still be asking "when does it get good?", aren't I? This show is a death march. Every now and again I see a pretty tree or a sexy lady but most of the time it is a goddamn Jap hitting me in the spine with the butt of his rifle and telling me in Moon to keep marching.

I got up to the beginning of season 3 before just giving up from boredom. There's a lot of potential there, but jesus christ it's so god damn safe and uninteresting. It's not a show you want to follow on from DS9.

 

[Captain Syrup]

I've just started season four of Voyager. This show is a death march.

At least when TNG was bad, it was entertainingly bad. Three episodes in, and I was ready to give up on this show which promised so much and delivered so little.

Reports are VOY was rushed into production. And it pains me to say that the production staff didn’t bring their A-game: Here, Janeway has to save some candy corn people. (Seriously, what is with the costuming?)

It was a mistake to air this episode so early. Hard to keep watching in the days before streaming.

 

[Lithos]

So, I drunk watched the latest episode.

Goddamn, mother fucking hippy Borg...

Spoiler

So, Jurati ends up compromising with the Borg Queen and they agree to start a brand new and improved Borg that only helps those in need or are lost and injured. They stay in the past so they can get a 400 year start on this new liberal hippy Borg... even though the Borg supposedly have been around for thousands of years? Oh god...

I was indifferent at first. Kind of annoyed at the rest. Now I'm probably gonna need a shitton of top hats...

 

[Captain Syrup]

So, Jurati ends up compromising with the Borg Queen and they agree to this new liberal hippy Borg.

Juranti needs to dust off some TNG/VOY scripts to see how these things turn out.

 

[HarryHowler]

At least when TNG was bad, it was entertainingly bad. Three episodes in, and I was ready to give up on this show which promised so much and delivered so little.

Reports are that VOY was rushed into production and it pains me to say that the production staff didn’t bring their A-game

They were having to divide their attention between TNG's last season, DS9's second season, Voyager's first season, and Generations all at the same time. It's not really a big surprise that none of them turned out especially well.

And yet, I'd still say that Voyager S1 was still the best of the pre-Seven seasons. Sure, there were some bad stories there, but at least the presence of the Maquis and their being stranded on the other side of the galaxy actually felt semi-relevant in S1.

 

[Brain Problems]

presence of the Maquis and their being stranded on the other side of the galaxy actually felt semi-relevant in S1.

The tension of the maquis on the ship and being stranded should have been this fantastic push-pull of mistrust and forced allegiances that are fragile and always on the cusp of snapping. Instead it basically disappears almost instantly. Curiously as much as I rag on the over-serialised nature of nuTrek, if they had followed DS9's semi-serialised nature Voyager would have been way better off for it.

That or if the show was just better. I used to dislike it more than I do now but nuTrek is so awful Voyager looks like high-art by comparison. I just started Babylon 5 and it seems to be kicking the absolute shit out of nearly everything post-DS9 so far. When did people give up making good sci-fi?

 

[HarryHowler]

The tension of the maquis on the ship and being stranded should have been this fantastic push-pull of mistrust and forced allegiances that are fragile and always on the cusp of snapping. Instead it basically disappears almost instantly.

I actually wouldn't have been opposed to the idea of the Starfleet and Maquis crewmembers slowly integrating and learning how to work together over time. However, it should really have been spread out over the first two or three seasons, instead of being mentioned on and off throughout the first season before they eventually pull the "welp, it was just Seska causing the conflict between the crews, everything's actually A-OK" card.

 

[Captain Syrup]

When did people give up making good sci-fi?

Star Wars.

Hollywood is concerned more with action and less with ideas.

 

[White Devil]

JJ Abrams. The cancer that killed the two biggest sci fi properties.

 

[Raoul_Duke]

JJ Abrams. The cancer that killed the two biggest sci fi properties.

And he did it why?
He's a yid, and the godson of Steven Spielberg. He's absolutely un-fucking-touchable.

 

[SteelPlatedHeart]

So, I drunk watched the latest episode.

Goddamn, mother fucking hippy Borg...

Spoiler

So, Jurati ends up compromising with the Borg Queen and they agree to start a brand new and improved Borg that only helps those in need or are lost and injured. They stay in the past so they can get a 400 year start on this new liberal hippy Borg... even though the Borg supposedly have been around for thousands of years? Oh god...

I was indifferent at first. Kind of annoyed at the rest. Now I'm probably gonna need a shitton of top hats...

Oh my fucking gooooooooooooood…….

Nothing speaks of how fucked up things are that we’ve reached the point of “Actually, the Borg is a good thing, if they only assimilate troubled people!”

Because I’m sure a hive mind of only mentally fucked up people wont cause ANY problems….

 

[Captain Syrup]

the godson of Steven Spielberg.

How many Hollywood writers are failsons?

JJ's doing alright despite being such a fuck-up for most of his career.

 

[HarryHowler]

JJ Abrams. The cancer that killed the two biggest sci fi properties.

Tbf, Star Trek had already been killed by Rick Berman before Abrams went anywhere near it. Abrams pretty much just re-animated it into some Frankenstein-like monstrosity, then left Kurtzman to feed and water it.

(Well, technically he left Roberto Orci to do it; he just fucked up straight away, leaving Kurtzman in charge by default)