Star Trek - Space: The Final Frontier

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Have done a rewatch of TOS seasons 1 and 2, currently on 3. Good shit. 3 is a writing downgrade though. Not what I remember.
TOS is a standout in Star Trek in that its first season is by far the best. 2 has good stuff too but Season 1 is mostly solid all the way through.
 
I think my favorite random Shatting of the OG run is "ahhh.... taHItI syndrome...!"
Looking back, Shatner was pretty fucking good as Kirk. But yes, he had his trademark pauses lol
TOS is a standout in Star Trek in that its first season is by far the best. 2 has good stuff too but Season 1 is mostly solid all the way through.
Season 1 is very good. They just don't have Checkov. On rewatch I did understand why City on the edge of forever was special. Even by modern standards, it holds up as a tight plot. They actually made Kirk have to make a choice. It was very kino.
 
Looking back, Shatner was pretty fucking good as Kirk. But yes, he had his trademark pauses lol
oh, don't get me wrong, I really unironically love shatner doing shatner things
the one big idea I heard that makes Shatner's Kirk make more sense is "imagine he's speaking French"
a LOT of what he's doing is that sorta "HONHON ... le pause... dRAMATIQUE!!!!" but just in English because he's a leaf (but one of the good ones)
 
oh, don't get me wrong, I really unironically love shatner doing shatner things
the one big idea I heard that makes Shatner's Kirk make more sense is "imagine he's speaking French"
a LOT of what he's doing is that sorta "HONHON ... le pause... dRAMATIQUE!!!!" but just in English because he's a leaf (but one of the good ones)
Honestly I can see his acting making sense from a French perspective
He's a very talented man, but the problem is he knows it.
Very self-indulgent, that guy.
Yeah, that aspect didn't help him with his relationships with the rest of the crew. Now it's just him, Sulu, and Chekov left.
 
Honestly I can see his acting making sense from a French perspective

Yeah, that aspect didn't help him with his relationships with the rest of the crew. Now it's just him, Sulu, and Chekov left.
I think the bigger problem is that some of the crew forgot he was the star of the show and they were glorified extras. Of course he counted lines, of course he tried to get the camera on him all the time, of course he and Nimoy were hogging the limelight. They were the stars of the show and it wasn't an ensemble show like TNG onwards was. They're lucky that Sulu, Chekov, Uhura, or Chapel got as much time as they did because it wasn't like there weren't a million actors in Hollywood willing to say "Klingons off the starboard bow" or be a minority or something.

And just because they are coworkers, doesn't mean the actors must be best friends. I'm sure Shatner rubs people the wrong way at times because who doesn't? But that doesn't mean Takei needs to hold a grudge 60 years after Shatner pushed to steal one of Takei's lines or demanded a close up of his reaction shot instead of Koening's.
 
To be fair, the fake Indian guy fleeced a lot of people in Hollywood.
He didn't trick Beltran. He's got a funny clip where going to meet the "native American consultant" and seeing it was clearly a white dude was like one of the first moments that made him tap out. Like, Jackie Marks aka Jamacke Highwater, didn't even try. He just tied his hair in a ponytail. No brownface or anything. It's the fake Injun equivalent of those troons who still have stubble lol
 
I think the bigger problem is that some of the crew forgot he was the star of the show and they were glorified extras. Of course he counted lines, of course he tried to get the camera on him all the time, of course he and Nimoy were hogging the limelight. They were the stars of the show and it wasn't an ensemble show like TNG onwards was. They're lucky that Sulu, Chekov, Uhura, or Chapel got as much time as they did because it wasn't like there weren't a million actors in Hollywood willing to say "Klingons off the starboard bow" or be a minority or something.

And just because they are coworkers, doesn't mean the actors must be best friends. I'm sure Shatner rubs people the wrong way at times because who doesn't? But that doesn't mean Takei needs to hold a grudge 60 years after Shatner pushed to steal one of Takei's lines or demanded a close up of his reaction shot instead of Koening's.
I mean yeah. I don't exactly pity Takei at this point. But looking at it as a whole, eh. The problem is for several years after, people like James Doohan got typecast hard. It was rough for a while getting work for some of the smaller guys. Which sucks, I love Scotty.
 
He didn't trick Beltran. He's got a funny clip where going to meet the "native American consultant" and seeing it was clearly a white dude was like one of the first moments that made him tap out. Like, Jackie Marks aka Jamacke Highwater, didn't even try. He just tied his hair in a ponytail. No brownface or anything. It's the fake Injun equivalent of those troons who still have stubble lol
I recall hearing that fake indian in south park was a dig at this specific guy, the really white one, not Cheech and Chong
also that dude was on a Coast to Coast back in the day I think I heard?
 
I recall hearing that fake indian in south park was a dig at this specific guy, the really white one, not Cheech and Chong
also that dude was on a Coast to Coast back in the day I think I heard?
I think he was. I'm like 80% sure I listened to that episode on the treadmill a month or so back.
 
The problem is for several years after, people like James Doohan got typecast hard. It was rough for a while getting work for some of the smaller guys. Which sucks, I love Scotty.
How is that Shatner's fault? He got typecast too, and he got hit by a divorce settlement based on his Star Trek income, just as ST was getting cancelled. So he ended up doing summer stock, commercials, game shows, and schlock B movies to make ends meet until the first ST movie.

I have no pity for the "day players". Those 70s ST conventions really inflated undeserving egos.
 
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We all know it, even she knows it.

I do wonder if she'd have become the Chakotay of the show with the authors having nothing interesting to write for her throughout the 7 seasons if she had stuck around.
 
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We all know it, even she knows it.

I do wonder if she'd have become the Chakotay of the show with the authors having nothing interesting to write for her throughout the 7 seasons if she had stuck around.
Probably. Like, she's supposed to be this tough tomboy, but she isn't and it's hard and indulgent to have her bring up her ghetto life every time she's tries to make a persuasive argument.
 
Probably. Like, she's supposed to be this tough tomboy, but she isn't and it's hard and indulgent to have her bring up her ghetto life every time she's tries to make a persuasive argument.
B'lanna episodes are just as bland and one note as Chakotay episodes. Every episode for him is about Akoochicoochiecoo or whatever his fake god is called. But every episode for her is "Muh half-Klingon/half-human heritage" and she learns to reconcile those two halves at the end, but forgets that lesson by the time she has another focus episode.

Except for that one where the Doctor makes Cardassian Mengele on the Holodeck to help save her life. That one's really, really good.

Neelix tends to have the best focus episodes out of the main cast, aside from that recurring arc in season 2 where he's worried everyone's trying to cuck him. But that one where his lungs get stolen, or the one with not-Oppenheimer or the one where he dies for a bit are insanely good. Obnoxious character, but his focus episodes are easily some of Voyager's best. Very odd.
 
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We all know it, even she knows it.

I do wonder if she'd have become the Chakotay of the show with the authors having nothing interesting to write for her throughout the 7 seasons if she had stuck around.
I remember watching this movie Mortuary (2005) when it came out and realizing that she left a lifetime of (semi)fame and money to be in pieces of shit like this:
 
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We all know it, even she knows it.

I do wonder if she'd have become the Chakotay of the show with the authors having nothing interesting to write for her throughout the 7 seasons if she had stuck around.
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I preferred Ishara Yar anyway.

Security chief. What a choice. Tasha had an interesting 'look' and backstory, but I don’t get any street fighter vibes off her at all. She’d be better in medical or navigation or some other wimpy department. But then I remember Nurse Ogawa… She had less screen presence than Spot.

Come to think of it, I totally forgot she was even in First Contact.

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FRAKES: Here’s your clipboard.
 
Except for that one where the Doctor makes Cardassian Mengele on the Holodeck to help save her life. That one's really, really good.
Can we even call that one a B'lanna focusssed episode? She just fucking lies there for most of the episode. I think it was a more of a Doctor episode.
 
B’Elanna, like a lot of characters, pretty much took a backseat after S3 or so.

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Then you get an episode like "Blood Fever" where Vorik's chasing her around the Delta Quadrant like the Terminator but the Terminator’s balls are full of green cum. :lossmanjack:

Trying to get back on track...Anyway… I quite like "Barge of the Dead." Even if the premise is "Klingon Hell is your Mom calling you a half-breed disappointment."

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It’s a neat look at the Klingon afterlife and I like that B’Elanna’s 'purgatory' is basically just her anxiety about being the only Klingon on the ship.

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I’d go to Klingon Hell, sounds cool.
 
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