Standing Rock Protests and DAPL

[floofyfloofy]

Does anyone know what that shit with the veterans or whatever was? Saw it on facebook or something. I guess veterans changed Prezzy Obammy's mind and apologized to the Indians.

 

[ICametoLurk]

$10 says you're not even white

Considering we conned the French into crushing the Byzantine Empire via loan contracts there might be some ancient Juden flowing through my veins.

More of a race traitor though for being with an Iowan (guess where his tribe lived) twink.

 

[Melkor]

Does anyone know what that shit with the veterans or whatever was? Saw it on facebook or something. I guess veterans changed Prezzy Obammy's mind and apologized to the Indians.

I've heard the vets were there originally to protect both sides, standing between both the protesters and the police.

If the whole thing about the vets apologizing is true, I'm a little torn. While I'd like to say, "that's nice", I also want to say that they didn't directly contribute to whatever war crimes the US military has committed against the natives, so it's easy for them to apologize and ask for forgiveness.

My main concern: How the FUCK do people afford to go protest for this shit? I can't just quit my goddamn job and go to goddamn North Dakota. I barely afford to do the things I enjoy doing while making car/rent/ect payments. Holdin' picket signs don't keep milk in the fridge. How the fuck are there people from like the east coast or whatever that just have time to do this shit. I feel like it just has to be your life. Like people ages 18-30 going there to protest and they say bullshit like "I care because I'm like barely any significant fraction of Cherokee/Random Tribe" How the fuck do they pay for that shit? What do they do? How are they doing it? What about their fucking lives outside of the protest? Even being half Ho-Chunk, I simply could not bring myself to just drop everything and go protest this even as sad as I think it is.

A lot of the non-native protesters are traveling to ND on mommy and daddy's dime, or are trust fund kids.

It'd be nice if I could make the trip up there, being part native myself, but not all of us can afford a round trip to the middle of bumfuck nowhere in North Dakota.

Also apparently BLM is there? I wonder if they're contributing to all this shit about protesters shitting up the place.

 

[floofyfloofy]

A lot of the non-native protesters are traveling to ND on mommy and daddy's dime, or are trust fund kids.

I just don't get what they do during and after. I just can't imagine just throwing my job and shit away for stuff I just want to seem like I care about. My grandpa on our Native side even said it was sad but not worth the trip there, and he even still makes bead art and dances and other Native crap.

I might just go and tomahawk some protesters that are white. It wouldn't be racist cuz they're white and I'm not. They raped our lands and took our corn.

 

[ICametoLurk]

Forget the Trail of Tears, we're gonna have a River of Salty Tears this January.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Its pretty stupid to give huge swaths of lands to a minority of people and not be even able to economically use them.
There is more indian reservations in brazil than the land that is currently inhabitated, trillions of $$ of rare minerals, good farming soil and huge florests with incredible biotech potentials are left ''unexplored''(the natives just sell it on the black market or some NGO's pretending to care for them just steal our biological resources).

 

[ICametoLurk]

Its pretty stupid to give huge swaths of lands to a minority of people and not be even able to economically use them.
There is more indian reservations in brazil than the land that is currently inhabitated, trillions of $$ of rare minerals, good farming soil and huge florests with incredible biotech potentials are left ''unexplored''(the natives just sell it on the black market or some NGO's pretending to care for them just steal our biological resources).

Having people join the rest of the Human species and not spend their time making their "precious Earth" look worse than 14 Branchland Ct is mean.

 

[AN/ALR56]

Having people join the rest of the Human species and not spend their time making their "precious Earth" look worse than 14 Branchland Ct is mean.

yeah and those ''natives'' (most are just dark skinned people ressurecting tribes that went extinct over 700 hundred years ago or just natives from other countries just squatting deliberatly on land that is gonna be used to build goverment projects so that they can claim it was sacred land and get the project either cancelled or delayed for decades in the courtroom while getting tons of cash and affirmative actions). just want shit like tv's and electricity,they dont give a fuck about old customs or any of that shit.

 

[AnOminous]

That's a big part of why the natives are pissed. College assholes with trust funds are coming and going "we understand your struggle lol" while they scarf take out and shitpost on their Iphones.

Also general scumbags of the ilk of Wesley Bailey. And they're not limiting themselves to takeout, they're stealing shit from the actual Indians.

 

[buffaloWildWings]

I just don't get what they do during and after. I just can't imagine just throwing my job and shit away for stuff I just want to seem like I care about. My grandpa on our Native side even said it was sad but not worth the trip there, and he even still makes bead art and dances and other Native crap.

I might just go and tomahawk some protesters that are white. It wouldn't be racist cuz they're white and I'm not. They raped our lands and took our corn.

I'll pay you in firewater and glass beads for some trustfundie scalps.

 

[Melkor]

Its pretty stupid to give huge swaths of lands to a minority of people and not be even able to economically use them.
There is more indian reservations in brazil than the land that is currently inhabitated, trillions of $$ of rare minerals, good farming soil and huge florests with incredible biotech potentials are left ''unexplored''(the natives just sell it on the black market or some NGO's pretending to care for them just steal our biological resources).

In the US, as far as I'm aware, the government gave the native tribes land that was useless to them.

Also, a lot of tribes, such as the Sioux and the Lakota in SD, are incredibly poor and suffer from issues like alcoholism and other drug abuse.

 

[floofyfloofy]

I'll pay you in firewater and glass beads for some trustfundie scalps.

Throw in some frybread and its a deal.

 

[sapir&worf]

The DAPL was originally planned to go north of Bismarck before they changed it to the current attempted route, but the whole reason for the change to the route that's pissing off the tribes has been a bit over exaggerated. It wasn't because white people were putting up a fuss about it, but logistical differences such as added distance and crossing conservation easements. So in the end, both routes would have had environmental consequences should there be a pipe burst.

http://www.snopes.com/dapl-routed-through-standing-rock-after-bismarck-residents-said-no/

 

[DZ 305]

Pipeline spills 176,000 gallons of crude into creek about 150 miles from Dakota Access protest camp

At this rate, just strap an oil drum to a burro and haul it in that way

 

[idosometimes]

I feel like a lot of people here will say "Fuck da NDNs" but honestly I'm sympathetic to the tribe. Lake Oahe is important to them. There is no reason why the pipeline couldn't be diverted away from the sacred lake of an indigenous tribe. Maybe it would cost a few million dollars to alter the route but that's nothing in the big picture.

And the fact protestors have had dogs sicced on them while praying for peace sickens me. That is just fucked up.

That's NIMBYism. NIMBYism is the worst -ism around.

People don't want pipes near their "sacred" trees, but want cheap energy. They don't want wind turbines ruining their of the landscape either. Put that where other people have to deal with it. The problem is that other people don't want it either.

Other groups have joined in this specific case. Some want nothing built ever because of tress or squirrels or some bulldink like that. Others think that pipelines prevent adoption of renewable energy sources (most of which suck from a math perspective). Few good arguments exist.

 

[AnOminous]

That's NIMBYism. NIMBYism is the worst -ism around.

Everyone says NIMByism sucks until it's their shit having its value destroyed without compensation for the benefit of other people they don't give a shit about. Then they're all for it.