📚 Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Otterly]

He's going to dilate the neourethra in his neovagina and get a ton of novel neokidney failure.

I chuckled.
Knowing these butchers they will tell him to put neosporin on it…
But gosh, what a waste of a young healthy body and mind. It’s tragic, and horrific all in one

 

[Mackerel Fish Stew]

It turns out that my clitoris had gone necrotic and it and some surrounding tissue had to be removed. I did NOT take that well, but I was also pretty close to septic shock, so at least I was alive.

I am trying to reconcile not having a clitoris and start looking for solutions.

A dear friend had been working with the Crane Center and indicated that there might be a real fix for my clit.

There was a plan to harvest a nerve cluster in my wrist and kinda do basically a mini phalloplasty to repair my clitoris. The surgeon has me drive out to Austin to have a detailed exam. Things are worse than believed. There are vaginal issues too. Looks like it's going to be 2 surgeries now. One to fix urethra/vagina and one for the clit.

It's now going to be a total of 4 surgeries. The exam under anesthesia (completed), a simple-ish procedure to reroute my urethra, a near complete re-do of the interior aspects of my vaginoplasty, and then finally the clitoroplasty. It turns out the distal end of my urethra was completely destroyed and what's left is going to have to be rerouted to where I pee out of my vagina.

Sorry, did I just read that this guy's dickhead rotted off Yaniv-style and Crane is telling him they can just butcher some nerves out of his wrist and "fix it"!?

 

[Procrastinhater]

Sorry, did I just read that this guy's dickhead rotted off Yaniv-style and Crane is telling him they can just butcher some nerves out of his wrist and "fix it"!?

You did. That's exactly what you read.
I have serious doubts about this whole thing.
Once again the fucking Build a Bear mentality.
These fucking lunatics are like Haemonculi, but without the tech. You can't just pull nerve clusters from here, and skin grafts from there, and stitch it all together with the lining from the inside of your fucking cheek and have it "just work".
You are not Todd Howard, faggot, and your experimental surgery is going to hold together about as well as the fucking Creation Engine does.
These lunatics fuck up a perfectly good body part and try to fix it by fucking another part from somewhere else.
Dr Frankenstein himself would sit these guys down like Chris Hansen and talk to them about his concerns for their sanity.
They 're seriously fucking deranged, and they're getting taken advantage of by lunatics who only see them as a next paycheck or chance to publish a paper.

 

[Hepativore]

How can you fuck up this bad. RoadKind4242
7 weeks post-op top surgery
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Spoiler: Text

So I got top surgery almost 8 weeks ago. These are my results.

I am unhappy with my sides. They have become painful and uncomfortable to sleep on. I try sleeping on my back, sides and stomach and it’s all painful. Surgeon told me to continue binding, especially while sleeping but it doesn’t feel like it’s helping at all.

I’m concerned that something else may be going on under my skin. The surgeon did say I will need a revision, but I can’t get that until at least 6 months after the original surgery date. I’m just not sure if I can go another almost 4 months with not being able to sleep.

I’ve messaged my doctor to see what can be done but this is making me feel really bad. I don’t even want to look at myself. I’m trying to find the silver lining in all this which is the fact that I no longer have a chest, but these side boobs are not helping the dysphoria.

Spoiler: Top surgery with wings

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I'm thinking this is another surgeon who intentionally did a bad job so she could wring insurance of more money.

If it looks this bad now, I wonder what is going to look like as these people hit their senior years. Those "growths" under her armpits might start sagging like deflated skin-balloons.

With the sheer amount of fibrotic tissue that this surgery has caused on her torso, there is no way that "revision" can fix this and not have it look like an autopsy scar.

 

[FrancineCansMcGee]

What the fuck is the point of moving the nerves? So trying to jerk off feels like rubbing your wrist? Just rub your crotch with your wrist and save the money.

 

[bouquetnine]

It is an interesting thing though, the willingness to do these invasive procedures that horrifically mutilate the body, but not being willing to do basic things to take care of themselves afterwards. One thing that puts the lie to the idea that this is "healthcare".

The mutilation is someone else's job. They're climbing onto a hospital bed and then getting a big dose of sleep juice. Nowadays they don't even have to pay for it. Healthy people are footing the bill for their complicated cosmetic surgery.

 

[Brain Power]

Spoiler

A little heart, right in the former vagina, very affirming

 

[toilet_rainbow]

You did. That's exactly what you read.
I have serious doubts about this whole thing.
Once again the fucking Build a Bear mentality.
These fucking lunatics are like Haemonculi, but without the tech. You can't just pull nerve clusters from here, and skin grafts from there, and stitch it all together with the lining from the inside of your fucking cheek and have it "just work".
You are not Todd Howard, faggot, and your experimental surgery is going to hold together about as well as the fucking Creation Engine does.
These lunatics fuck up a perfectly good body part and try to fix it by fucking another part from somewhere else.
Dr Frankenstein himself would sit these guys down like Chris Hansen and talk to them about his concerns for their sanity.
They 're seriously fucking deranged, and they're getting taken advantage of by lunatics who only see them as a next paycheck or chance to publish a paper.

There are people that have to get physical therapy after losing their pinky toe or finger. Virtually every body part, even the ones that people can adapt easier from losing like the gallbladder, has a purpose. Crippling a wrist for something that will fall off and die again is pure insanity. People have two hands for a reason. This dude was probably used to typing with one hand pre op, but I doubt he was putting on shirts or opening chip bags the same way. The body can only adapt to some real fuckery to a point.

(Also, considering that the novel is literally a dying Victor recounting to a ship crew how much he fucked up by playing God, I’m really loving the mental image of a modern day Victor playing Chris Hanson to a bunch of butchers or Jeanette Jennings types.

“Hello, Dr Gallagher, I’m Victor Frankenstein from Dateline NBC! We’re doing a story about surgeons that groom underage girls for unnecessary surgeries on phone apps! How about you sit here for a moment and we talk?”)

If it looks this bad now, I wonder what is going to look like as these people hit their senior years. Those "growths" under her armpits might start sagging like deflated skin-balloons.

With the sheer amount of fibrotic tissue that this surgery has caused on her torso, there is no way that "revision" can fix this and not have it look like an autopsy scar.

The thing is, most of them barely make it to middle age, let alone senior. Now that AIDS isn’t killing gays en masse it’s a lot easier to see older gay (and lesbian couples). Meanwhile Buck Angel is old for a transitioning troon (since I just remembered that Buck did just about everything but bottom surgeries). There are troons that have aged enough to develop dementia and ask techs what happened to their dicks, but I was under the impression that they got the chop around middle age?

These younger ones are far more likely to 41% sooner since they destroyed their bodies and quality of life earlier. Someone like Gruffin or this pooner is going to have a brief, painful life when just leaving their bodies alone would’ve ironically given them longer, maybe even happier, lifespans. Depression and low body image may suck, but being able to pee is a huge plus.

What the fuck is the point of moving the nerves? So trying to jerk off feels like rubbing your wrist? Just rub your crotch with your wrist and save the money.

A lot of butchers claim that they will perform “nerve hookup” on the troons after irreparably damaging them by cutting them up. Like as if they can magically dice up the crotch again and boom, troon will get the mind blowing orgasms they were promised if they mangled their body so. Just more of the treating their bodies like a customizable video game character mentality, only apply it to sensation. “My brain will no longer think it’s wrist flesh, if you put that between my legs it’ll register like a clit!”

It’s a good grift on the butcher’s part, not gonna lie. Troons are so ignorant of basic biology that they get confused at basic anatomy that they claim they should’ve had. Things like how nerves work are beyond them if they keep dilating their urethras or asking what that nub on top of their rotpocket is supposed to be with alarming regularity.

 

[Mellow Malevolent]

They seem to think nerves are plug and play like usb cables. They don't seem to understand that the brain isn't keeping track of nerves based on which socket they plug into, the pathways that the brain uses to integrate neuronal information are way more complex than just which synapse the axons link to. It's wild that they believe that you can just repurposed things like nerve cells from one part of the body to the other. I've actually wondered how pooners experience sensation on there pseudopenises, I know some report feeling nerve impulses from the donor site, but for those that don't feel that, I wonder how their brain locates the nerve impulses it's receiving. Part of me thinks it's all wishful thinking, that they all have sensation essentially equivalent to feeling it on the arm but won't admit it. Or they feel it as an extension of stomach skin maybe? Or entirely the sensation is from the buried clitoris?

 

[thefreshmaker]

They seem to think nerves are plug and play like usb cables.

I've brought intestinal surgery up before, but once again it's relevant.

Even something as routine as a bowel resection that occurs hundreds or thousands of times per day carries extreme risks, one such risk being the severing of nerve endings down to the groin region. There's the potential you'll never have an erection ever again, or need a catheter forever just so you don't release urine constantly. Reattaching severed digits is also very common and extremely well understood now, but that won't stop the whole issue with nerve endings being a game of chance whether it works properly, works good enough, or even works at all.

People volunteering for this never fails to horrify me.

 

[Third World Aristocrat]

They seem to think nerves are plug and play like usb cables. They don't seem to understand that the brain isn't keeping track of nerves based on which socket they plug into, the pathways that the brain uses to integrate neuronal information are way more complex than just which synapse the axons link to. It's wild that they believe that you can just repurposed things like nerve cells from one part of the body to the other.

Their ignorance about basic biology is just to be expected. We are talking about troons that believe their egotistical perception of identity surpasses the nature of reality.

What saddens me the most is that these Surgeons butchers don't explain any of that to their "patients", and they know all about this. I know they do it for the money. But I think these butchers also do it for some egotistical God-complex sense.

Spoiler: Stupid Story about Surgeons God-Complex

I remember once I was watching a kidney transplant but the Organ receiver had a vascular anomaly. The Surgeon had to make some vascular changes to the donor kidney for the transplant to happen. After finishing it, I remember him looking at the transplant and saying: "That wasn't God that made, it was me". Since this, I never underestimate the God-complex that reside inside Surgeons.

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[SomeSpook]

I would like to think these freaks get their nerves surgically removed and placed in their pseudo-genitalia, only to masturbate and feel that the nerve the "surgeon" placed there is felt in, I don't know, the forearm instead of the pseudo-penis. But correct me if I am wrong about this, I don't know anything about human nerve function

 

[Safir]

Meanwhile Buck Angel is old for a post op troon.

Buck started late by pooner standards (28.) and """wisely""" decided against getting a rotdog. She had her uterus and ovaries removed when them atrophying nearly killed her; the only truly elective surgery she had was the tit chop. Rotdog owners won't last nearly as long.

 

[toilet_rainbow]

Buck started late by pooner standards (28.) and """wisely""" decided against getting a rotdog. She had her uterus and ovaries removed when them atrophying nearly killed her; the only truly elective surgery she had was the tit chop. Rotdog owners won't last nearly as long.

I totally derped and lumped her with the demented post op AGPs while typing. “[Medically] transitioned” is a more accurate term in this case.

Like you said, she’s lucky she’s at the age she is since the T nearly killed her like it did her reproductive system. Even she admits that she was essentially a guinea pig for this shit. Time will tell how many young pooners will die from liver, heart, or reproductive issues caused by their steroid abuse ten years from now. I reckon the count will be high. That WPATH exposé hinted that the bodies are already piling up.

 

[Otterly]

Sorry, did I just read that this guy's dickhead rotted off Yaniv-style and Crane is telling him they can just butcher some nerves out of his wrist and "fix it"!?

The phrase ‘gnostic meat Lego’ has been used here and I think it’s a good one

What the fuck is the point of moving the nerves? So trying to jerk off feels like rubbing your wrist? Just rub your crotch with your wrist and save the money.

Surgeon gets another yacht?

 

[Procrastinhater]

I would like to think these freaks get their nerves surgically removed and placed in their pseudo-genitalia, only to masturbate and feel that the nerve the "surgeon" placed there is felt in, I don't know, the forearm instead of the pseudo-penis. But correct me if I am wrong about this, I don't know anything about human nerve function

Not a doctor, but as others have said and from what I've read, the nervous system is not a plug and play device. Nerves send individual signals through the nervous system to the brain, even if you could move a chunk of flesh and have the nerves reconnect, from what I understand its very likely if Pooners with arm skin rotdogs get any feeling at all, the source of the nerves sending it means the brain will read it as their arm still, which must be a weird as fuck feeling.
Most likely though, they are totally numb.

Spoiler: Nerve Damage

I still have a quarter section of the right of my bottom lip that permanently feels like Ive been to the dentist because when I broke my jaw I had a plate put in and the surgeon severed the nerve.
I've gotten some feeling back over the four years since it happened, it used to be the whole bottom corner of my jaw, now it just feels like the right quarter of my bottom lip feels like rubber.

Nerves never completely regrow.

 

[Kent Allard]

Their ignorance about basic biology is just to be expected. We are talking about troons that believe their egotistical perception of identity surpasses the nature of reality.

What saddens me the most is that these Surgeons butchers don't explain any of that to their "patients", and they know all about this. I know they do it for the money. But I think these butchers also do it for some egotistical God-complex sense.

Spoiler: Stupid Story about Surgeons God-Complex

I remember once I was watching a kidney transplant but the Organ receiver had a vascular anomaly. The Surgeon had to make some vascular changes to the donor kidney for the transplant to happen. After finishing it, I remember him looking at the transplant and saying: "That wasn't God that made, it was me". Since this, I never underestimate the God-complex that reside inside Surgeons.

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My surgeon took the easy way out, he has Christ with him at every operation. Orthopedic, went from Lutheran to Christian Praise Jesus type. I’m grateful he didn’t ask me to pray with him, as it would’ve been a sticky wicket.

 

[Dr. Nick Riviera]

What do you expect? Dude can't even keep up with his fingernails.

Right? Fucking disgusting. Just another way in which AGPs utterly fail to mimic female behavior. No woman would be caught dead with nails grown out like that, let alone post them publicly on the internet.

 

[SomeSpook]

Right? Fucking disgusting. Just another way in which AGPs utterly fail to mimic female behavior. No woman would be caught dead with nails grown out like that, let alone post them publicly on the internet.

These "people" are incapable of mimicking women. Even real, biological women can sniff this shit out way better than men can.

 

[pink cigarettes]

Buck started late by pooner standards (28.) and """wisely""" decided against getting a rotdog. She had her uterus and ovaries removed when them atrophying nearly killed her; the only truly elective surgery she had was the tit chop. Rotdog owners won't last nearly as long.

Unpopular opinion and top hat me idc, but I can't stand OG pooner Buck Angel. Occasionally she says some reasonable things about the current state of troon political madness, but so does my boomer aunt. Buck has what I call "John Waters syndrome": she wants her transgressive behavior to be legal, lauded, and influential, but not TOO influential because she depends upon the society at large remaining uptight and square enough that she can still be comfortably and safely transgressive. Total luxury beliefs. She wants to be able to holler about being judged but still freak out the squares. I cannot take someone like Buck seriously when they go on social media and gripe about troon medicine, media, politics, etc having gone too far, or about herself being the real thing and others posers, etc. Bitch, you helped usher this in. Congratulations