📚 Megathread SRS and GRS surgeons and associated horrors - the medical community of experimental surgeons, the secret community of home butchers

[Fapcop]

I’m gay and I’ve never heard of this. this is gross

Well, glad you were able to clear the air of this gross fabrication.

God forbid the good name of a demographic known for eating each others assholes be slandered like this!

 

[Pallas' Cat]

Ffffffiiiiinne!!

Enjoy a pic that should once and for all settle any doubts about the fapcock!

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Kayla would never forgive you!

She… She does?

Hmm, she does seem like the tender type who’d love changing dressings and holding hands while dilating…

Oh boy, time to call Dr Brassard!

Just put on some Star Trek in the background, and you've got yourself a nice, cozy date night.

 

[Doctor Dong]

I wonder how Lissa "reject his design" is doing?

Wait, did he sneeze his pussy inside out, or his asshole? Which stinkhole did the guts fall out of?

 

[pockywocky]

Wait, did he sneeze his pussy inside out, or his asshole? Which stinkhole did the guts fall out of?

Pretty sure Lissa here is filled to the brim with shit from his rotpocket surgery quite literally backing him up like a broken toilet. What prolapsed what his stoma, not his """pussy""" or asshole.

from here

Utterly repulsive LOL

 

[Quack_Quack]

Don’t worry, this thread will uncover something worse. It always does.

Lissa's shit filled catastrophe? Or the triple entry trench of septic terror?

 

[monstrous bubo]

Lissa's shit filled catastrophe? Or the triple entry trench of septic terror?

Hush child, summon not the demons

 

[Cynicaller]

Manmade horrors beyond comprehension

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

For being an entire site of autists, I'm surprised I was the only one autistic enough to look this up:
The average length of a flaccid penis is 3.61 inches (9.16 centimeters), and the average length of an erect penis is 5.16 inches (13.12 centimeters).

Are those U.S. numbers? I'm suspecting they may be skewed by the (compared to europe) large asian population, I also recall japanese stats, at least way back, had shown that they're barely scratching 10 centimeters which is burned into my memory because that seemed to be almost medically abnormal.

This seems legit. Has sauces at the bottom.
Pretty wild, right? You'd think it wasn't that extremely distributed. Turns out japs are actually the chads of SEA.

The average human male penis size, based on various studies, ranges between 12.9 cm (5.1 in) and 13.92 cm (5.5 in) and doesn't correlate with fertility or number of sexual partners.

This issue is actually very interesting because that is a purely numerical average,
which is wortless for correctly sizing neo vaginas or really making any other medical assessments, then.
You'd better not be doing porn with an amhole or really any blind dating...
sauce 2

 

[Mellorine]

Japanese condoms are normal length and only a milimeter or so snugger than standard US condoms, so ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

And continuing the "nobody in this thread can be bothered to look up anything", a quick search shows that "drop and fluff" is a common term used to describe breast implants settling that has a bajillion results on Google. This comes from the American Society of Plastic Surgeons:

"Dropping" and "fluffing" refer to the process of your breast implants settling into place after breast augmentation. Directly after your procedure, you might notice that your implants are "riding high" on your chest and may look flatter than you'd hoped or slightly square in shape. These are normal occurrences caused by tight skin and muscle tissue that will gradually resolve as your implants drop and fluff over the coming weeks.

As tight muscles relax and acclimate to your new implants, you can expect your implants to "drop" to a lower, more natural-looking position on your chest, as well as "fluff," or fill out the lower area of your breasts. This process will give way to a smoother, softer and more rounded final appearance, resolving temporarily high or flat implants as you continue to heal.

 

[Aunt Carol]

Wait, did he sneeze his pussy inside out, or his asshole? Which stinkhole did the guts fall out of?

His stoma. Your natural butthole has a lot of muscle devoted to keeping the intestines inside, even if you sneeze, or you strain to poop, so you don't see rectal prolapse as much unless someone's elderly, has comorbidities, or is really into fisting.

This dude had SRS and a fistula developed was discovered immediately afterward: an internal hole that constantly leaks poop from his intestine into his amhole. To allow this to heal and not marinate a surgical wound in fecal bacteria, the surgeon made a diverting ileostomy--a temporary emergency backup butthole on his abdomen, so the poop leaves the intestines before it can contaminate the surgical site further down. He poops from a new hole in his abdomen into a bag attached with adhesive to the abdomen.

An ileostomy or colostomy doesn't have that system of muscle; the business end of the intestine is hanging out of the abdominal wall. Someone could copy-paste the thing about his emergency butthole being "a mockery of Nature's perfection," but AFAIK nobody is getting these for fun; it's there because it's the least bad option.

Lissa's whole mess came up in the other trans omnibus thread first, so I'm going to quote myself in this much more appropriate venue:

Skill issue.

If he's having trouble reducing his prolapsed stoma, he can try ice (in a towel) or pouring granulated sugar on it to shrink the tissue and make it easier to stuff back in. You have to do this from a lying position or you're working against your own abdominal muscles.

IDK just girl things lol (archive)
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As you can see, it doesn't require emergency surgery as long as the intestine is getting circulation and it's not painful. If it's the first time a stoma prolapses, definitely tell the surgeon, but also tell the ostomy nurse because this might just mean he needs a different kind of dressing, or an ostomy belt.

edit: timeline. Thanks, @Fapcop !

 

[Marvin]

I looked into "dual plane" B.A. - It just means under the muscle. Which is always shilled because it looks more "natural" but it's not true, 250cc is way too big for that. It's also painful as fuck because they rip the muscle from the ribcage, it will never reattach itself - that alone deforms your chest muscle. If I was a troon I would get small over the muscle old school porn tits, men like it better anyway (see porn) and it's ironically way less damaging and invasive, despite the look. The heinous thing about this, for troons specifically, is that you can't go back on it, I saw some very petite ex stripper complaining about her deformed looking chest after getting her giant, under muscle ones removed, going back to an A cup. She had large concave areas as if she had some severe congenital defect - the muscle was completely fucked and migrated somewhat after getting disjoined from the rib cage.

I've never understood under-the-muscle breast implants. They've always sounded absolutely horrifying to me.

Like, certainly when you flex the muscle, it's going to tense against the implant, right? Like squeeze it?

You need your pectoralis muscle. It's an important muscle for everyday stuff. Like getting up in the morning, you might do a little push up to sit up. Why would you fuck with the functionality of that muscle?

Who thinks of this batshit frankenstein shit?

 

[Hubelublub]

And continuing the "nobody in this thread can be bothered to look up anything",

Why would we bother when you'll do it for us? I don't want to shit up my search history, so thank you for your service. o7

I've never understood under-the-muscle breast implants.

Short of reconstructive surgery, the whole concept is bizarre. Signing up for return surgeries every 10 to 15 years and a bunch of health risks in the meantime seems like madness just to look good in a dress.

 

[Fapcop]

This dude had SRS and a fistula developed afterward

If I may offer a slight correction.

A fistula did NOT develop afterwards. His surgeon just did an oopsie, which the troon discovered during surgery.

As you can see, it doesn't require emergency surgery as long as the intestine is getting circulation and it's not painful. If it's the first time a stoma prolapses, definitely tell the surgeon, but also tell the ostomy nurse because this might just mean he needs a different kind of dressing, or an ostomy belt.

Dear lord… Absolutely horrifying. If I had to choose between an amhole and sitting and looking at my intestine while I poop in a bag… Fuck I don’t know…

 

[Aunt Carol]

If I may offer a slight correction.

A fistula did NOT develop afterwards. His surgeon just did an oopsie, which the troon discovered during surgery.

Thank you, fellow amhole-spotter! Fixed.

Dear lord… Absolutely horrifying. If I had to choose between an amhole and sitting and looking at my intestine while I poop in a bag… Fuck I don’t know…

I mean, he chose both. He wanted the amhole; he got the amhole and the diverting ileostomy.

Ostomates can be pretty self-sufficient people, but it's a lot like organ transplant recipients: they only do it when the alternative is worse. There's cancer, a gunshot, or bad RNG at birth, but a lot of people ended up with an ostomy only after decades of suffering with UC or Crohn's. As annoying as it is to deal with the appliance, after years of pain, malnutrition and anemia, they tend to say they wish they'd had it sooner.

Someone who's debilitated with cancer at 80 with a new ostomy: probably not lasting long, unlikely to achieve independence in changing it, likely to refuse to look at it and demand the nurses teach their spouse instead. Someone who made the sober decision to get the colon that's killing them yanked at 35: joining online groups for tips and tricks, buying a StomaShield and finally running that half-marathon. With occasional bitching about invisible disabilities, but if you're going to thrive with an ostomy you need an internal locus of control.

The intestine usually doesn't stick out that much, hence his concern. Another note is that ostomy bags come in clear and opaque; clear are for hospitals and nursing homes, where someone else is responsible for checking on your stoma. Opaque is for independent ostomates.

And ostomy bag covers are for funsies:

 

[Tragon Dirtle]

Dan Savage informed me that gay men have a culture of passing pre-enjoyed sex toys to the younger gays. So yeah, the one who wrote this story is a gay man.

I’m gay and I’ve never heard of this. this is gross

I don't think it's toys, when the uk movie Pride came out I remember reading something about how when leather gays died they would pass on their leather gear to younger gays. Or maybe it's in the movie because the main activist gets aids.

 

[Fapcop]

Thank you, fellow amhole-spotter! Fixed.

I mean, he chose both. He wanted the amhole; he got the amhole and the diverting ileostomy.

Ostomates can be pretty self-sufficient people, but it's a lot like organ transplant recipients: they only do it when the alternative is worse. There's cancer, a gunshot, or bad RNG at birth, but a lot of people ended up with an ostomy only after decades of suffering with UC or Crohn's. As annoying as it is to deal with the appliance, after years of pain, malnutrition and anemia, they tend to say they wish they'd had it sooner.

Someone who's debilitated with cancer at 80 with a new ostomy: probably not lasting long, unlikely to achieve independence in changing it, likely to refuse to look at it and demand the nurses teach their spouse instead. Someone who made the sober decision to get the colon that's killing them yanked at 35: joining online groups for tips and tricks, buying a StomaShield and finally running that half-marathon. With occasional bitching about invisible disabilities, but if you're going to thrive with an ostomy you need an internal locus of control.

The intestine usually doesn't stick out that much, hence his concern. Another note is that ostomy bags come in clear and opaque; clear are for hospitals and nursing homes, where someone else is responsible for checking on your stoma. Opaque is for independent ostomates.

And ostomy bag covers are for funsies:
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Hmm… I guess you’re right! Thanks for that perspective.

Shit, I guess the worst in “Lissa’s” case isn’t the bag. Not even the leaking, fucked amhole.

It’s gotta be the awareness that if he had chosen differently, fuck if he had listened to that inner voice and chickened out 10 minutes before surgery, he’d be at home right now fapping to anime and yelling at Lesbians on Twitter, instead of laying in a hospital and facing at least six months as a patient.

 

[Aunt Carol]

It’s gotta be the awareness that if he had chosen differently, fuck if he had listened to that inner voice and chickened out 10 minutes before surgery, he’d be at home right now fapping to anime and yelling at Lesbians on Twitter, instead of laying in a hospital and facing at least six months as a patient.

I wonder if Lissa has a different perspective on the "dead son or live daughter" threat, now that he knows there's a third possibility.

(I mean, in a different sense than usual.)

 

[Free the Pedos]

if he had listened to that inner voice and chickened out 10 minutes before surgery

I often wonder how many people start the medical trooning process but chicken out. Are the only people who consider it so mentally ill that few have the sense to chicken out, or are they lots of transtrenders who do a consult with a surgeon and never call back?

 

[Stupid Sexy Flanders]

an internal hole that constantly leaks poop from his intestine into his amhole

So a hole, within a hole - three holes! Wow, this sound like this guy is winning.

a temporary emergency backup butthole on his abdomen

Four holes?! Take that you disgusting cis women. How could you ever compete with this?

 

[Dr. Eldon Tyrell]

I often wonder how many people start the medical trooning process but chicken out. Are the only people who consider it so mentally ill that few have the sense to chicken out, or are they lots of transtrenders who do a consult with a surgeon and never call back?

Having seen some accounts by now, about how aggressively these clinics pursue surgery candidates - richie herron comes to mind - I would think the latter is in the majority.
I imagine there's lots of one-time, go-no-where appointments wasting time and resources. And I think these clinics are weirding out middle class people because they never adjusted for the new clientele of helicopter parents and middle class guys like Richie, they're used to chopping up early twenties gay prostitutes and the rare, unhinged 50 something agp freak which is more like handling addicts and mental cases for a psych ward, so lot's of call backs, appointment reminders and aggressive customer engagement.
I have heard a few cases of troons complaining about doctors, in particular, making lewd remarks out of nowhere and basically assuming the straight, ring sock wearing programmer virgin is a streetwalker.
Imagine thinking you, the average fag hating, sadistic surgeon, are flesh crafting some hapless gay dude into a ladyboy but in reality, you just made a fellow, straight mutilation enjoyer, much like yourself, coom. Oh, the horror.