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[GabeRegan]

That reminds me, is the Geoff Johns Hawkman stuff any good? I've liked most of the Johns stuff I've read so far, and I was intrigued to check it out but haven't gotten any opinions from people who've read it.

I remember liking it, but I can't remember if you need to read the JSA story arc that preceded it. Basically there was a JSA story called "Return of Hawkman" or something, and it led directly into the Hawkman series that Johns wrote. I recommend reading that arc, since it gives a decent overview of the Hawkman mythos and sets up the new status quo used in the new series.

 

[Goodbye Horses]

http://www.topshelfcomix.com/catalo...y-gentlemen-the-vol-iv-the-tempest-1-of-6/982

 

[Jetpack Himmler]

I honestly don't know what the appeal of Kamala Khan AKA Ms. Marvel. From what I have read from skimming the odd issue at the comic shop, the stories are incredibly tedious to read.

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I honestly don't know what the appeal of Kamala Khan AKA Ms. Marvel. From what I have read from skimming the odd issue at the comic shop, the stories are incredibly tedious to read.

I think her earlier issues were okay, but I wouldn't say you're missing anything by not having read them. I think part of the appeal was they were fun little comics that largely existed in their own bubble. It felt like Marvel was trying to do something in the same ballpark as what DC was doing with Harley Quinn, set up a more lighthearted comic that did have occasional interactions with other characters in the universe, but mostly existed in a self-contained continuity. It didn't really last long, and I think Kamala has suffered for it ever since. The Secret Wars stuff was tonal whiplash, Champions wrote her as incredibly unlikeable and weirdly bitchy towards her teammates, and then for whatever reason the writers decided to take her out of her main series for over a month or so to focus on side characters. Even for an established comic, that can be a risky move, but it isn't something you should do when you haven't even hit issue #100.

Whenever she shows up anywhere else, she feels more like a prop than a character. Her latest appearance in Wolverine was set in the future where she's president of the United States, despite having shown no interest for politics and a pretty open aversion to taking on a leadership role. But, you know, she's one of their brown characters, and Marvel isn't one to pass up the opportunity to virtue signal. I guess she's lucky the artist didn't get the okay to use Riri Williams instead.

 

[Hummingbird]

I think her earlier issues were okay, but I wouldn't say you're missing anything by not having read them. I think part of the appeal was they were fun little comics that largely existed in their own bubble. It felt like Marvel was trying to do something in the same ballpark as what DC was doing with Harley Quinn, set up a more lighthearted comic that did have occasional interactions with other characters in the universe, but mostly existed in a self-contained continuity. It didn't really last long, and I think Kamala has suffered for it ever since. The Secret Wars stuff was tonal whiplash, Champions wrote her as incredibly unlikeable and weirdly bitchy towards her teammates, and then for whatever reason the writers decided to take her out of her main series for over a month or so to focus on side characters. Even for an established comic, that can be a risky move, but it isn't something you should do when you haven't even hit issue #100.

Whenever she shows up anywhere else, she feels more like a prop than a character. Her latest appearance in Wolverine was set in the future where she's president of the United States, despite having shown no interest for politics and a pretty open aversion to taking on a leadership role. But, you know, she's one of their brown characters, and Marvel isn't one to pass up the opportunity to virtue signal. I guess she's lucky the artist didn't get the okay to use Riri Williams instead.

She was a cute character at first and she should've stayed a street level hero. Putting her in the Avengers was a big mistake due to being too young, inexperienced, and her powers aren't that much (and she doesn't have super intellect weapon skills to make up for for a weak ability). Champions did wreck her and as Diversity & Comics said, they turned her comic into an air-headed tween sitcom.

On a more positive side, my copy of My Hero Magademia came in the mail and it is fucking funny. Wait til you see what the little boy's power is.

 

[8777BB5]

I've always been kind of surprised SJWs have never shown interest in Mexican comics, particularly those that feature Cowboys and Indians. In Mexican comics the Indians are portrayed as the good guys and the cowboys as the bad guys, which i have a feeling would make the SJWs happy.

 

[Hummingbird]

Here's a comic I came across and of course, the whites are all xenophobic jerks from the first few pages I've read. (The American ones are rednecks.) I'd like to see a story where they get to the other half of the migration problem where a number of them are totally assholes to their host countries and the government lets them get away with it.

 

[Foltest]

Is there anyone else here who is a fan of Peter David run on supergirl from 96-03?
I read through all of it in a couple of days and I loved it. That it deals with religion and other heavy handed issues is pretty interesting and it had me hooked.
I also like Linda Danvers as Supergirl as she was very very flawed. I hope someday, we will see more of her.

 

[Syaoran Li]

I sort of want to get into reading Marvel comics, but given the SJW antics of Marvel, I'm a little uneasy. I'm mainly interested in the characters of The Punisher, Spider-Man, Psylocke, and the X-Men in general. But what era do I start with?

I'm thinking of starting with the Dark Age comics of the 1990's.

I'm sort of weird that I don't like the MCU, but I did like the X-Men and Spider-Man cartoon series that aired on Fox back in the 90's, as well as some of the Marvel video games for PS1 and PS2. So, maybe I should check out comics from the 1990's and early 2000's?

 

[Cyber Bowling]

I sort of want to get into reading Marvel comics, but given the SJW antics of Marvel, I'm a little uneasy. I'm mainly interested in the characters of The Punisher, Spider-Man, Psylocke, and the X-Men in general. But what era do I start with?

I'm thinking of starting with the Dark Age comics of the 1990's.

I'm sort of weird that I don't like the MCU, but I did like the X-Men and Spider-Man cartoon series that aired on Fox back in the 90's, as well as some of the Marvel video games for PS1 and PS2. So, maybe I should check out comics from the 1990's and early 2000's?

I found the best way to get into comics is just dive in at the start of a story arc, and accept the fact there's bound to be continuity references you don't get, but should be able to pick up on fairly quickly based on context clues or possibly a quick wiki search. Depending on the era and the comic, there's various reboots and retcons and what not that make it easy/harder to really understand what's going on. It can also vary from title to title. One book might have the X-Men fighting Magneto, then the next X-book is about Jubilee being a vampire or time displaced youths.

While I normally dislike Bendis and everything he touches, I'd recommend going with Ultimate Spider-Man if you're specifically interested in Spidey and not so much the rest of the Marvel-verse. The Ultimate series takes place in a different continuity, which the movies took a lot of influence from. It follows high school Peter as opposed to the grown up one, so there's naturally teen angst. But honestly, adult Peter usually has just as much teen angst as it is. Miles eventually takes over towards the end of the run, but eh, I don't remember it being very SJW heavy.

The X-Men stuff is much harder to even think of a possible starting point. Even after reading marvel comics for years, I barely have any idea what is going on with them at any given time. It doesn't help their current titles are X-*insert color here* which makes it even harder to keep track of who is doing what. I want to say late 90's X-men was some of their better stories in general. I'd avoid early 90's Spider-Man, it was pretty awful.

 

[TheClorax]

Trivia: Before being changed to white, the spider-symbol on the Black Suit (which was a fan idea that Marvel bought for about $220), was originally going to be red.

I sort of want to get into reading Marvel comics, but given the SJW antics of Marvel, I'm a little uneasy. I'm mainly interested in the characters of The Punisher, Spider-Man, Psylocke, and the X-Men in general. But what era do I start with?

For Spider-Man and X-Men, I’d recommend starting with the Ultimate Universe variations, they had a lot of good ideas with good executions of said ideas. Or McFarlane’s run of Spidey, even though it had more edges than a tesseract.
Then again, I considered the Ultimate Universe to be superior to the 616 Universe. So I’d just recommend the Ultimate Universe in general.

 

[Water-T]

The X-Men stuff is much harder to even think of a possible starting point. Even after reading marvel comics for years, I barely have any idea what is going on with them at any given time. It doesn't help their current titles are X-*insert color here* which makes it even harder to keep track of who is doing what. I want to say late 90's X-men was some of their better stories in general. I'd avoid early 90's Spider-Man, it was pretty awful.

If you want to get informed about the X-Men, I highly recommend uncannyxmen.net It's been around for 20 years and has issue summaries, character bios, and various other resources to help you get caught up on Marvel's mutants.

 

[PrincessHomura]

I sort of want to get into reading Marvel comics, but given the SJW antics of Marvel, I'm a little uneasy. I'm mainly interested in the characters of The Punisher, Spider-Man, Psylocke, and the X-Men in general. But what era do I start with?

I'm thinking of starting with the Dark Age comics of the 1990's.

I'm sort of weird that I don't like the MCU, but I did like the X-Men and Spider-Man cartoon series that aired on Fox back in the 90's, as well as some of the Marvel video games for PS1 and PS2. So, maybe I should check out comics from the 1990's and early 2000's?

Garth Ennis' Punisher run is relatively self-contained and is very good, a lot of people call it the epitome of Punisher comics.

As for Spider-Man, I haven't read a single issue from the '80s that I didn't love. The Death of Jean DeWolffe and Kraven's Last Hunt are two storylines I recommend in particular. They're really good.

 

[Florence]

Wait til you see what the little boy's power is.

Spoiler

...Lightning?

 

[Hummingbird]

Spoiler

...Lightning?

Spoiler

Yep and he can temporarily turn into Mike Penence.

 

[ShittyRecolor]

I sort of want to get into reading Marvel comics, but given the SJW antics of Marvel, I'm a little uneasy. I'm mainly interested in the characters of The Punisher, Spider-Man, Psylocke, and the X-Men in general. But what era do I start with?

I'm thinking of starting with the Dark Age comics of the 1990's.

I'm sort of weird that I don't like the MCU, but I did like the X-Men and Spider-Man cartoon series that aired on Fox back in the 90's, as well as some of the Marvel video games for PS1 and PS2. So, maybe I should check out comics from the 1990's and early 2000's?

I really like early Psylocke in Chris Claremont's Uncanny X-Men run after she gets integrated to the roster in 1986's New Mutants Annual #2. Mutant Massacre, The Fall of the Mutants, Inferno and lots of stuff in between still hold up really well. If you're more into contemporary ninja-Psylock, Christopher Yost's mini-series and Rick Remender's Uncanny X-Force are pretty great as well.

I think the '90s X-Men is worth a read for seeing Jim Lee in his prime alone, and Fabian Nicieza has penned some pretty neat stories for it later on if memory serves me right. You might also want to check out Larry Hama's Wolverine, Joe Kelly's Deadpool and Peter David's X-Factor for that '90s goodness.

Even contemporary Marvel has some hidden gems, though they unfortunately get buried under all the oversaturated, unsellable SJW bullshit they've kept pumping out for the past few years. Kingpin and Thanos had some really great, if short lived, solo series recently, and Warren Ellis did an awesome Moon Knight (stay away from Bemis' shit though). Personally I also liked the current Old Man Logan run's first couple story arcs, though I need to catch up on the recent issues.

Trivia: Before being changed to white, the spider-symbol on the Black Suit (which was a fan idea that Marvel bought for about $220), was originally going to be red.

For Spider-Man and X-Men, I’d recommend starting with the Ultimate Universe variations, they had a lot of good ideas with good executions of said ideas. Or McFarlane’s run of Spidey, even though it had more edges than a tesseract.
Then again, I considered the Ultimate Universe to be superior to the 616 Universe. So I’d just recommend the Ultimate Universe in general.

That looks dope as well!

 

[Foltest]

Counting with reading Supergirl, I just read the elseworldstory "Supergirl: Being Super"

It is a coming of age story, only with Supergirl. The story feels like a superman one in how she is raised by a family from when she is eight years old. Thorught the story (with beautiful artwork by Joelle Jones) Kara starts to discover that she is well, Supergirl. It was a fun read and it made me want to read more from this elseworld.

 

[Hummingbird]

Check out this piece of trash comic.

 

[Heckler1]

Question: If you got to write for a comic of your choice, what would you choose, and what story would you want to see?

 

[QB 290]

Garth Ennis' Punisher run is relatively self-contained and is very good, a lot of people call it the epitome of Punisher comics.

As for Spider-Man, I haven't read a single issue from the '80s that I didn't love. The Death of Jean DeWolffe and Kraven's Last Hunt are two storylines I recommend in particular. They're really good.

Garth ennis' s punisher run is pretty much accepted as the best punisher run that's ever been printed.
It shows so much when he was kicked from the comic and it immediately went down hill, the 6th volume is pretty unbearable.