Sony hate thread

[moocow]

I said decent, not some bullshit low end videocard

Lame cop-out to handwave inexpensive but still performant builds to avoid having them dismantle your point.

 

[p1138]

Lame cop-out to handwave inexpensive but still performant builds to avoid having them dismantle your point.

It's not a copout at all, yes there are people who will build systems with low end videocards just like there are people who are happy with 30fps on a console(if they actually had anything to play on the things). No one was building gaming PCs for $1000 with anything but low end hardware. Hell, $1000 puts you out of the budget for a mid tier card at this point before even considering storage and RAM. Even before pricing got stupid, 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD was still going to run you over $300, which at this point easily brings it up to $1500+ for again a mid tier PC build.


And that's still cheaping out on the cooler and case. Dropping that to an old rtx 3050 for $250 and you're still at almost $1300 with a 2 generation old low end card. You haven't dismantled shit.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Just look at all of the people falling all over themselves to buy $500 apple headphones, or the latest $1000+ iphone. The money exists, people just don't want to spend it when there's no perceived value to be had(as stupid as that perceived value may be).

Speaking of Apple, I think the devastating failure of the Vision Pro (their VR headset) is a perfect example of what I expect to happen with the PS6.

By all accounts the AVP is a fantastic high-end VR device, but even the lunatic Apple fanboys willing to pay full price for their phones and earbuds aren't willing to pony up the cash because VR is a novelty device with little to no practical benefits over the items everybody already owns that do the same thing.

I'm sure the PS6 will be the most powerful machine Mark Cerny's autism is capable of creating, but why do I need to spend $1,000 on a new box to watch Netflix on and play my PS4 ga-- oh wait I can't do that because it won't have a disc drive unlike my PS5.

yeah pretty much learning to weigh shit is important, if niggercattle doesn' then does it even matter? they are niggercattle for a reason.

How the niggercattle move on the PS6 will be really interesting to see, because they're slaves to 'newer is better' but also usually require at least one shiny bauble they can wave in people's faces to show why their new box is superior to all the others.

 

[p1138]

Speaking of Apple, I think the devastating failure of the Vision Pro (their VR headset) is a perfect example of what I expect to happen with the PS6.

By all accounts the AVP is a fantastic high-end VR device, but even the lunatic Apple fanboys willing to pay full price for their phones and earbuds aren't willing to pony up the cash because VR is a novelty device with little to no practical benefits over the items everybody already owns that do the same thing.

It's tough to say, because Apple also seemingly occasionally goes out of their way to make a product just to have it fail to kill market interest in it or purely to say they did with no real intent to ever do much with it. The apple pippin was a $600 game console released in 1996(I think? might have been 95) discontinued after a year and a half of nothing, worse than the fucking $800 philips CD-I from 1991. Then there was apple's bullshit priced newton PDA from the 90s priced at $2000+ and the handwriting shit didn't even work but for some reason they thought that was worth bringing to market as a product.

I'm sure the PS6 will be the most powerful machine Mark Cerny's autism is capable of creating, but why do I need to spend $1,000 on a new box to watch Netflix on and play my PS4 ga-- oh wait I can't do that because it won't have a disc drive unlike my PS5.
How the niggercattle move on the PS6 will be really interesting to see, because they're slaves to 'newer is better' but also usually require at least one shiny bauble they can wave in people's faces to show why their new box is superior to all the others.

And yeah, it all boils down to the niggercattle and how many of them are willing to buy a ps6 or whatever the helix thing is from Microsoft. It would be nice if the entire generation of consoles failed due to stupid pricing and lack of games, but I don't have my hopes up for that.

Remember back when consoles are sold at cost or even a slight loss but had a huge variety of games to play that made up for the margins in sales volume? Sure would be nice if we could get back to that.

 

[Computer Guardian]

It's not a copout at all, yes there are people who will build systems with low end videocards just like there are people who are happy with 30fps on a console(if they actually had anything to play on the things). No one was building gaming PCs for $1000 with anything but low end hardware. Hell, $1000 puts you out of the budget for a mid tier card at this point before even considering storage and RAM. Even before pricing got stupid, 16GB of RAM and a 2TB SSD was still going to run you over $300, which at this point easily brings it up to $1500+ for again a mid tier PC build.
Ver archivo adjunto 9255842

And that's still cheaping out on the cooler and case. Dropping that to an old rtx 3050 for $250 and you're still at almost $1300 with a 2 generation old low end card. You haven't dismantled shit.

I think he was referring to the used market, though that in itself has more to do with having to hunt for competent deals and often times consists of old-old parts (like RX 580s or Post-Core Pentiums for the most part.

 

[StacticShock]

Speaking of Apple, I think the devastating failure of the Vision Pro (their VR headset) is a perfect example of what I expect to happen with the PS6.

By all accounts the AVP is a fantastic high-end VR device, but even the lunatic Apple fanboys willing to pay full price for their phones and earbuds aren't willing to pony up the cash because VR is a novelty device with little to no practical benefits over the items everybody already owns that do the same thing.

I'm sure the PS6 will be the most powerful machine Mark Cerny's autism is capable of creating, but why do I need to spend $1,000 on a new box to watch Netflix on and play my PS4 ga-- oh wait I can't do that because it won't have a disc drive unlike my PS5.

How the niggercattle move on the PS6 will be really interesting to see, because they're slaves to 'newer is better' but also usually require at least one shiny bauble they can wave in people's faces to show why their new box is superior to all the others.

mostly brand loyalty but sony obviously overestimates how many snoys they have and how many people just own a playstation.
shiny baubles is kind of interesting because gabe is closing on in, the new gabetroller is prett good:

and we still have stuff to see with the GabeNGoggles which is his take at a independent but pluggable VR headset, all things considered it won't be good due to RAM shite but the GabeN is approaching on the fields sony has a apple-like focus.

if you don't count shit like the patents for ads and equally retarded shit, of course.

 

[p1138]

I think he was referring to the used market, though that in itself has more to do with having to hunt for competent deals and often times consists of old-old parts (like RX 580s or Post-Core Pentiums for the most part.

Sure, but then he needs to specify the used market. But when we're talking about $800 consoles and the PS5 likely being $1000+, the conversation obviously wasn't about used hardware in the first place. Especially when it's about niggercattle consoomers.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

This. $1000 isn't some unaffordable amount of money. A decent gaming PC costs way more than that and plenty of people have them

I think ya’ll are missing the point. The die hard Sony ponies aren’t going to throw out their decade plus digital library to go buy a PC and rebuild their collection. They will either stick with the PS5 until it dies and buy another second hand, or buy a PS6 because newest sports ball and COD.

I mean, how long has Madden and COD released games on the PS4 after PS5 was released?

 

[Lone MacReady II]

You know, at least magazine subscriptions back in the day came with an actual magazine, something physical, and they didn't magically poof away when you decided to renege on your monthly fee. Now these jews (and rice jews) are making you pay to physically own nothing, and when you're fed up with all the renting and the mediocre games and movies you paid for, they just get snapped out of existence until you're ready to get on your knees and start renting again.

Nigger I can't think of any other dictionary term to describe that other than scam. I think the "punch" of it is often lost in all these online conversations day to day... but that shit is FUUUUUUUUCKED.

They will either stick with the PS5 until it dies and buy another second hand, or buy a PS6 because newest sports ball and COD.

The reality for the PisS6 is that buying groceries is not a simple "easy" thing to do anymore. I and many other people see the buttfucked receipts at the store, it is noticeably getting fucky out there.

 

[GeorgeFloydFentanylStash]

at least magazine subscriptions back in the day came with an actual magazine, something physical, and they didn't magically poof away when you decided to renege on your monthly fee

You got off light my friend. When I failed to renew my subscription to EGM in highschool, Ziff Davis sent some tiny hat mafia members to my house like Lebowski owed money. When I told them I wasn’t going to renew, they took all my copies of EGM

 

[Computer Guardian]

So people started turning the wheels in thier brain and remembered hat you can't change the region your Playstation account has in regards to the whole "We are fucking killing PS5 discs" thing, and realized that the people in the 130+ countries where you can't make a PSN account are going to get doubly fucked as no physical games means you'd be stuck with a glorified Blu-Ray player at best if you had a PS5 with a disc drive or at worst, be buying a very expensive brick that won't do anything until years down the line when people manage to get Linux running on ethier super early firmwares or on a high enough firmware version to do it anyways,

 

[p1138]

So people started turning the wheels in thier brain and remembered hat you can't change the region your Playstation account has in regards to the whole "We are fucking killing PS5 discs" thing, and realized that the people in the 130+ countries where you can't make a PSN account are going to get doubly fucked as no physical games means you'd be stuck with a glorified Blu-Ray player at best if you had a PS5 with a disc drive or at worst, be buying a very expensive brick that won't do anything until years down the line when people manage to get Linux running on ethier super early firmwares or on a high enough firmware version to do it anyways,

Oh wow, yeah that's a new level of stupid for Sony. It was an issue with PC games requiring the stupid PSN support, and Sony sells playstations in countries and allows patches for those games, but creating an out of region PSN account for years was a risk of a ban, so all they've got isn't even a single player game machine anymore but a fucking brick to play blurays on.

All because Sony is fucking lazy and doesn't want to bother with currencies and taxes in regions.

 

[No Shot Bucko]

Glad I modded my PS3 with the sweetest classics so have to no worry about the upcoming hollow future PS6 may hold.

Very retarded choice to actually take away something that important like a disc. It's like they simply want to tell you without hiding it ´´WE OWN YOU AND ANYTHING YOU PAY IS MEANINGLESS´´.

A very uncertain future will be if they don't reverse their decision about going full digital.

The question here is ¿Are we succeeding against sony together on this one? I'm just waiting for GOG to keep bringing a fair % of classics while others are already easily downloadable at NPS.

 

[moocow]

The question here is ¿Are we succeeding against sony together on this one?

The trouble for Sony is they don't really have anything that makes their bespoke all-digital no-physical walled-garden appliance more appealing than the competition. Microsoft are hard at work trying to shoot themselves in their feet more than Sony, but they're neck-and-neck for now and there's every possibility Xbox will limp into the PS6 generation with similar specs "but with physical media and lots of licensed sports games and Cowadoody" and kick Sony's ass by accident even while the jeets they're busy hiring now spend their first year at the company eating paste.

 

[Nameless One]

The trouble for Sony is they don't really have anything that makes their bespoke all-digital no-physical walled-garden appliance more appealing than the competition. Microsoft are hard at work trying to shoot themselves in their feet more than Sony, but they're neck-and-neck for now and there's every possibility Xbox will limp into the PS6 generation with similar specs "but with physical media and lots of licensed sports games and Cowadoody" and kick Sony's ass by accident even while the jeets they're busy hiring now spend their first year at the company eating paste.

Imagine if he halo CE remake is successful.

Imagine the jeets that'll get promoted because of it.

 

[Oliver Onions]

Sure, but then he needs to specify the used market. But when we're talking about $800 consoles and the PS5 likely being $1000+, the conversation obviously wasn't about used hardware in the first place. Especially when it's about niggercattle consoomers.

If we do include the used market, how much would you estimate to build a solid gaming PC? Not bleeding edge, but say someone happens to still be using a GTX 770 and isn't overly fussed about running current year AAA slop in 8k 240fps.

I think ya’ll are missing the point. The die hard Sony ponies aren’t going to throw out their decade plus digital library to go buy a PC and rebuild their collection.

I am, and I've been Playstation loyal since the PS3. Most of my games are tied up in PS+ so I never technically owned most of my library any way.

Microsoft are hard at work trying to shoot themselves in their feet more than Sony, but they're neck-and-neck for now

If Helix turns out to be a hybrid like some rumours suggest I could actually see it clawing back the lead against Sony, assuming they stick with a traditional console.

People are currently trying to gas up the Portal as the ace up Sony's sleeve now it was the ability to stream games, but it's still fundamentally useless if you are anywhere without strong uninterrupted wifi.

 

[El Chacal De La Trompeta]

I think ya’ll are missing the point. The die hard Sony ponies aren’t going to throw out their decade plus digital library to go buy a PC and rebuild their collection. They will either stick with the PS5 until it dies and buy another second hand, or buy a PS6 because newest sports ball and COD.

I mean, how long has Madden and COD released games on the PS4 after PS5 was released?

The only reason the ps5 existed on this house was to play phisical disks. The last game i bought was metal gear delta on disk.
The ps5 is weaker than my 5600x-6700xt combo and the games are more expensive. There is zero positive value proposition for a fully digital console unless maybe if they add regional pricing like steam does or they get cheaper like when i bought the ps4 for like 200 bucks new with the uncharted ports. Both of those things wont happen

 

[moocow]

Imagine if he halo CE remake is successful.

Don't worry, it won't be. They don't have it in them. The people who made Halo great are long gone.

 

[p1138]

If we do include the used market, how much would you estimate to build a solid gaming PC? Not bleeding edge, but say someone happens to still be using a GTX 770 and isn't overly fussed about running current year AAA slop in 8k 240fps.

If you're talking about something that old, probably sub $500 if you're not concerned about playing much of anything that's been released in the past year or so since there's no driver support going forward? There's a lot more interesting AA games that aren't going to be running worth a shit on a 770 at this point.

 

[El Chacal De La Trompeta]

If we do include the used market, how much would you estimate to build a solid gaming PC?

find a i74790 and a rx590, the 3600 got expensive as fuck and the ram situation is all fucked up