Sony hate thread

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It's been mentioned thousands of times over but Sony plays games with their console sales and that's especially the case with the PS5, as they've claimed that PS4s sold during this period, Playstation VR and other peripherals, and even PS5s that are brought in for service are classified as PS5s sold, and they state that the shipped that amount, not sold, so there's a large amount that are just sitting in storagehouses just rotting away.
Fair enough, since we are mostly depended on what the console manufactures tell us they are free to make their numbers look better on financial reports. But Nintendo also reports its hardware as sell-in, and we haven't had official Microsoft data for years now since they stopped reporting it entirely. So the same argument can be made against them too and then all hardware numbers are useless too us.
 
For the first one I'm a little pessimistic, while the backlash has been spectacular, it's most likely an extremely vocal minority. And I was shocked to see goycattle genuinely defend this. We saw this with the GTA VI news with gun and ball gamers "broke ass niggas get yo money up"

For the second point they might try and shill cloud gaming but I genuinely see no hype for it. Like no one seems interested in it, even digital only shills.
I'm incredibly pessimistic. Goycattle will not care because they either lack the ability to think long term or if they can think long term believe "There is no way the Nips would just yeet my games out of my library and make me buy them all over again! That would hurt their business!". So it won't be until consquences arrive that people will actually look around and realize the power they handed to the corpos and they really, truly do own absolutely nothing


The PS1 (which only existed because Nintendo snubbed them) dominated the 5th gen because the Saturn completely fucked up its launch and Nintendo stubbornly stuck to cartridges;
The PS1 also dominated (and the Saturn floundered) because Sony made the PS1 SDK available for virtually free, and it included pre-written c-compatible compliers and drop-in-ready classes for things like reading button presses, reading/writing to memory cards, and moving data from the disk in to memory.

In general or compared directly to PlayStation ? Any data to back up your point ? Or arguments ?

You know what never mind, you clearly are a retard.
"The brown is immunized against all manner of insults due to his low intelligence, they roll like water off an apes back because he cannot understand them. But call him a brown and see how he recoils; AH! I've been found out!"

"Globally, Xbox has 31% vs PlayStation (44%) and Nintendo (25%). However, Xbox maintains strong regional dominance in North America with a 74.79% console OS market share."

Sorry to hear that you are brown, I hope that gets better for you.
 
You'd expect them with going digital only soon that game prices would decrease since they won't have to print physical copies, send them out to retailers or account for storage fees.

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Oh right, nevermind.
 
You'd expect them with going digital only soon that game prices would decrease since they won't have to print physical copies, send them out to retailers or account for storage fees.
Funny how that excuse completely disappeared right around the time digital storefronts became viable for consoles, isn't it.

I remember the graph they used to post showing how much money those evil delivery trucks and brick and mortar stores were fleecing poor innocent billion-dollar publishers for.
 
Fair enough, since we are mostly depended on what the console manufactures tell us they are free to make their numbers look better on financial reports. But Nintendo also reports its hardware as sell-in, and we haven't had official Microsoft data for years now since they stopped reporting it entirely. So the same argument can be made against them too and then all hardware numbers are useless too us.
With Sony it's incredibly obvious with how much they've been playing with the PS2's numbers to keep it as the most successful console ever made. They did it with the DS by keeping the PS2 on the market as long as they possibly could, and with the Switch they've basically claimed that they've sold every PS2 that they ever made somehow to keep the Switch from surpassing it. So it's not that much of a stretch to say that Sony is also playing games with the PS5s numbers to make it look much more of a success than it actually is.
 
With Sony it's incredibly obvious with how much they've been playing with the PS2's numbers to keep it as the most successful console ever made. They did it with the DS by keeping the PS2 on the market as long as they possibly could, and with the Switch they've basically claimed that they've sold every PS2 that they ever made somehow to keep the Switch from surpassing it. So it's not that much of a stretch to say that Sony is also playing games with the PS5s numbers to make it look much more of a success than it actually is.
What you are saying is a reasonable assumption, and I am inclined to think that it is true so some extent. But we can't prove or disprove it. It is certainly strange how Sony kept changing the numbers, so the competitor doesn't win this made up contest. But pretending like Nintendo weren't as likely to have pulled the same shit is strange especially with the DS, Wii and Switch. It's not that obvious with those numbers ? They didn't tamper with the sell-in stats out of the goodness of their hearts ? Either both are guilty or neither one did it.
 
I'm baffled they're even bothering to make another console, the rest of Sony (and DEI bucks) must be carrying the gaming division hard because any other company would've been six feet under at this point.
Try looking at their financials. Playstation carries the rest of Sony.


How are some people so completely ignorant of reality?
 
What you are saying is a reasonable assumption, and I am inclined to think that it is true so some extent. But we can't prove or disprove it. It is certainly strange how Sony kept changing the numbers, so the competitor doesn't win this made up contest. But pretending like Nintendo weren't as likely to have pulled the same shit is strange especially with the DS, Wii and Switch. It's not that obvious with those numbers ? They didn't tamper with the sell-in stats out of the goodness of their hearts ? Either both are guilty or neither one did it.
Updating numbers as more data comes in is pretty normal, and Sony didn't have final tallies from all territories for a long time due to the lifespan of the PS2 in developing markets and large shipped supply in the last years of production.

Sony doesn't report units shipped, so they have to rely on inventory reporting to find out what was sold through. The last markets the PS2 was actively sold in were Africa and South Asia, so expecting quick numbers from those places is just plain dumb.
 
Try looking at their financials. Playstation carries the rest of Sony.
Makes a lot of sense considering that film industry is dying, the music industry is dead, and smartphones murdered the consumer electronics market. It's kind of amazing how nearly every pie Sony had a finger in has vanished since 2000.
 
Makes a lot of sense considering that film industry is dying, the music industry is dead, and smartphones murdered the consumer electronics market. It's kind of amazing how nearly every pie Sony had a finger in has vanished since 2000.
It is hilarious how many people think that PlayStation isn't making money, when they are having their most profitable generation so far. A lot of it is typical gamer ignorance and the mentality of "I didn't like this, so nobody bought it!" wish casting and the absurd blindspot some people have regarding the fact that 3rd-party game sales are 90% of a platform-holder's income unless they are total fuckups about cultivating relationships like Nintendo has been a few generations.

The continued insistence from some retards that The Last of Us 2 flopped is a prime example of being completely out of touch with reality.
 
What you are saying is a reasonable assumption, and I am inclined to think that it is true so some extent. But we can't prove or disprove it. It is certainly strange how Sony kept changing the numbers, so the competitor doesn't win this made up contest. But pretending like Nintendo weren't as likely to have pulled the same shit is strange especially with the DS, Wii and Switch. It's not that obvious with those numbers ? They didn't tamper with the sell-in stats out of the goodness of their hearts ? Either both are guilty or neither one did it.
The difference is that once Nintendo takes its consoles off the market they stick with those numbers, whereas Sony has constantly played with the PS2's numbers long after it was taken off the market. for the longest time Sony claimed they sold 140 million PS2s, then all of a sudden the Switch catches up on that number and every time Sony claims they just magically find 5 million PS2s that were sold out of thin air. I'm not denying that the PS2 wasn't a massive success but it's pretty obvious that having the most successful console of all time is something that Sony is dedicated to keep having.
 
The difference is that once Nintendo takes its consoles off the market they stick with those numbers, whereas Sony has constantly played with the PS2's numbers long after it was taken off the market. for the longest time Sony claimed they sold 140 million PS2s, then all of a sudden the Switch catches up on that number and every time Sony claims they just magically find 5 million PS2s that were sold out of thin air. I'm not denying that the PS2 wasn't a massive success but it's pretty obvious that having the most successful console of all time is something that Sony is dedicated to keep having.
They were still selling PS2 in Africa, India and SE Asia until around 2018, so they would not have final numbers until the last shipments had sold through.
 
But pretending like Nintendo weren't as likely to have pulled the same shit is strange especially with the DS, Wii and Switch. It's not that obvious with those numbers ? They didn't tamper with the sell-in stats out of the goodness of their hearts ? Either both are guilty or neither one did it.
You’re talking about the same company that refuses to share digital sales figures so their games consistently look half as popular as they actually are. If anything, it’s more likely that Nintendo’s hardware sales are higher than they claim.
 
You’re talking about the same company that refuses to share digital sales figures so their games consistently look half as popular as they actually are. If anything, it’s more likely that Nintendo’s hardware sales are higher than they claim.
Like always.
What era was when Nintendo had actual competition? The 4rd one? Against Sega?
 
Like always.
What era was when Nintendo had actual competition? The 4rd one? Against Sega?
It’s crazy how much Nintendo fanboys overrate Nintendo. Sony blew Nintendo’s numbers out the water with PSX and PS2. Nintendo didn’t become a best selling system again until they released the Wii. And then fell off a cliff again with the WiiU.

Sure, the 64 and GC had a bunch of great games. They just didn’t become system pushers for those consoles.
 
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