Social Alienation - it seems to be getting worse

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Crunchy Leaf dijo:
There seem to be way more people with really severe anxiety, too. Like, people who can't call anyone or can't email anyone without breaking down. And then they justify it by saying they're an introvert, but that's not what introversion is.

Video games play a role in this too. Everyone's heard stories of guys who do nothing but play League all day. Not good.
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There's a lot of people who claim to have anxiety because it can excuse their laziness, but would they have a breakdown that required a trip to the E.R.? Probably not, I'd say. They're only anxious about things they don't want to do which is, of course, very convenient for them. It's just fashionable to be disabled now; look over the Munchausen's threads for more details. Hell, Tumblr threads, SJW threads... you get the point.

The fact that they claim introversion to try to cover for their ineptitude pretty much seals it; most of these people are social media whores and will not be left alone (whether IRL or online) lest they have a thought that might make them feel uncomfortable.

There may have been a bit of a rise in actual anxiety disorders in the last few years but they'd be easily solved if people would just go outside and find other people to talk to. "Oh it's so hard now! Everyone's on their phone!" says literally everyone, while they stare at their phones, and then hey what do you know? It just gets harder and harder.

As for video games; why blame the vice when you can blame the person indulging in it? Without vidya these guys would probably be down at the arcade playing pinball or in the speakeasy shooting pool... or just getting pissed-drunk at the bar. That's not anybody's fault except for that person and it's not helping anybody to blame inanimate objects for our personal vices.

Also LoL is the shit and I can't wait for the next update!
 
Close friendship is extremely overrated. Don't let movies and TV make you feel like you need a supportive cloud of people who don't even touch your genitals. Mind your business, save your money, and enjoy life.
 
Ped Xing dijo:
Close friendship is extremely overrated. Don't let movies and TV make you feel like you need a supportive cloud of people who don't even touch your genitals. Mind your business, save your money, and enjoy life.
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I disagree. I don't have any problem with minding your own business, saving money, and enjoying life. However, I think that close friends are wonderful and should be cherished and loved as if they were family. In my case life without my two best friends would be significantly more hollow feeling, cold, and boring. I think that it's just fine and in fact admirable to find meaning and solace in yourself and your lifestyle but that doesn't mean that you cant derive meaning from external sources too.
 
Exigent Circumcisions dijo:
For real, my kids are going to be the uber mensch to these pale, frail and frightened little turds they're turning out right now.
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You're sounding like John Krese in the 1st episode of the 2nd season of Cobra Kai, talking about how it's Cobra Kai's job to stiffen the spines of some pussies.
And it isn't actually wrong, the way it's put, in the episode.
 
TerribleIdeas™ dijo:
You're sounding like John Krese in the 1st episode of the 2nd season of Cobra Kai, talking about how it's Cobra Kai's job to stiffen the spines of some pussies.
And it isn't actually wrong, the way it's put, in the episode.
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Kreese's idea of making people tougher isn't wrong in concept, but he's going about it wrong. Johnny almost had it right, but he didn't bother to check the ramifications of going too hard.

William Zabka has no fucking right being that hot that old.

Anyway, I wouldn't consider myself tough, but I look damn near gladitorial in comparison to my friends. They almost sound envious by how I'm apparently "assertive" and "confident."
Bitch, being able to talk to the clerk at the store and buy something when you can't isn't a skill. I get social nerves can be fraying, but at what point do you become a frail flower and not normal, functioning person?
 
Super Color Up dijo:
Kreese's idea of making people tougher isn't wrong in concept, but he's going about it wrong. Johnny almost had it right, but he didn't bother to check the ramifications of going too hard.

William Zabka has no fucking right being that hot that old.

Anyway, I wouldn't consider myself tough, but I look damn near gladitorial in comparison to my friends. They almost sound envious by how I'm apparently "assertive" and "confident."
Bitch, being able to talk to the clerk at the store and buy something when you can't isn't a skill. I get social nerves can be fraying, but at what point do you become a frail flower and not normal, functioning person?
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I'm about to start ep3, and I can see the foreshadowing about Hawk and Miguel, and the conflict that'll create between Krese and Lawrence. And you're right Johnny has the right idea, and is clearly fumbling the right way, but he's been fucked by life repeatedly, so when Krese says the right things, he feels like the beginning of his redemption is something he might be able to share.

Larusso is an asshole an awful lot, but the show is surprisingly deep.
 
Ped Xing dijo:
I haven't had a "best friend" since grade school. Childhood has to end sometime.
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You can still be an adult and have best friends. Polibius and Scipio were best friends, JRR Tolkien and CS Lewis were also really close for a while (though they grew distant due largely to literary/religious disagreements if I remember right). These are just some famous historical examples, in fact there are plenty of functional productive adults who have close friends right now. Humans are generally very social and I think that having at least 1 good friend is both very normal and very healthy.
 
I can't have friends because I'm too paranoid they'll either be a far left communist loonie or a Jew-hating far-righter.

Centrism is a rarity, and I don't like it. Can we just agree both sides are dumb, so I can talk to people again?
 
Classist. dijo:
You can still be an adult and have best friends
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Damn right. I'm still in contact with a friend i made in school 13 years ago. We had our good and bad moments like any friends had, but we are still in contact and we consider each other best friends. Right now we pretty much want to meet since we haven't seen each other for nearly one year due to work.
Give Her The D dijo:
Centrism is a rarity, and I don't like it. Can we just agree both sides are dumb, so I can talk to people again?
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Surprisingly enough, i've met a lot of people who are centrist but sometimes behave as far right/left ironically just for shits and giggles. Thing is that they tend to live more in reality than in social media, which is also a big plus if you don't want to find deranged people whose live revolves solely around their political alignment.
 
Crunchy Leaf dijo:
There seem to be way more people with really severe anxiety, too. Like, people who can't call anyone or can't email anyone without breaking down. And then they justify it by saying they're an introvert, but that's not what introversion is.
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You're on to something here. Being socially stunted is not actually the same as social alienation. Some people are natrually socially stunted, and its either a skill you cultivate or just a mild inconveinience you just learn to live with. We can all relate to this, given where we are.

Social alienation is completely different. I didn't pay much attention to this difference until recently. I've learned firsthand that when something fucks you up sufficently, something gets smashed or broken in your head and suddenly you cannot deal with people anymore regardless of how hard you try or how much benefit it is to you personally. There are degrees of this of course, to the point where some people shut themselves off from all interaction even electronically. This issue is a massive disaster waiting to happen, because everywhere I see withdrawal and anxiety being attributed to social awkwardness, when in reality there is far more exstensive damage lurking beneath if the person really has become alienated with society.

We're losing a lot of people to what is essentially a crippling mental disorder and if the experts can't figure this shit out, we're going to see an overall breakdown of social interaction altogether. Social alienation is far more dangerous than other problems because, hey, guess what, the person doesn't want to seek help because avoiding human contact as much as possible is the main symptom. At the same time, you can't just drag a social alien away from their computer or their smart phone because they'll be too panicked and crazed to properly interact with people and certainly too berserk to be treated with anything other than tranqs.
 
Alienation is good. Murder should be viewed as a good thing.
 
Spl00gies dijo:
Thunkful but it probably means you're dull as dishwater. Or you smell really really rank. 🤷‍♀️
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Maybe you’re a crazy motherfucker who’s entertaining but nobody thinks of as their main person.

This occurred to me several times over my life, and I suspect it’s a common occurrence. Just because somebody is the main person in your life, that doesn’t mean that you’re the main person in their life. The likelihood of that being the case goes up dramatically the less friends you have.
 
qu_rahn dijo:
Imagine giving up on brotherhood and friendship & having laughs with your mates because you've got a job and responsibilities. :story: Mental
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I guess if you are too stunted to make your own family, you might feel the need to carouse with "mates" until you fossilize.
 
Yeah, I mean it's one thing when your kids are young but eventually you are going to want to interact with people who don't share your DNA
 
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