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Should you keep abortion pills at home, just in case?​

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Medication abortion, or taking a combination of the drugs mifepristone and misoprostol, is an increasingly common method for ending pregnancies in the United States. Reasons vary and overlap: Some women lack access to in-person abortion clinics; others prefer to end pregnancies in the comfort of their own home. Others seek out the pills because they cost far less than surgical abortion.

With more in-person clinics shuttering and a Supreme Court that’s threatening to overturn Roe v. Wade, a small but growing number of reproductive experts have been encouraging discussion of an idea called “advance provision” — or, more colloquially, stocking up on abortion pills in case one needs them later.

It’s an idea that has merit: Mifepristone has a shelf life of about five years, misoprostol about two, and both drugs work better the earlier in a pregnancy you take them. In states that are ramping up abortion restrictions, there’s often a race against the clock to access care. In Texas, for example, if you don’t realize until eight weeks in that you’re pregnant — which could be only a couple of weeks after a missed period — you would have already passed the state’s new legal deadline for obtaining abortion pills. But if you had already stored them in your home, or your friend or neighbor had, then you’d be able to take them.

In a 2018 nationally representative survey of women ages 18 to 49, 44 percent expressed support for advance provision, and 22 percent said they were personally interested in it. Those who had previously had a medication abortion and those who reported facing greater barriers to reproductive health care were more likely to support the idea.

Data on these kinds of abortions — often called “self-managed” or “self-administered” — are harder to track. Research published in 2020 estimated that 7 percent of women will self-manage an abortion in their lifetime, though this was calculated with the assumption that Roe was still in place. New Guttmacher data published last week on US abortion incidence found there were 8 percent more abortions in 2020 than in 2017, but self-managed abortions are excluded from this count.

“We know there are thousands of self-managed abortions that we aren’t capturing,” Rachel Jones, a Guttmacher research scientist, told Vox. “If the Supreme Court overturns Roe, and abortion becomes illegal in 26 states and people can’t travel to another state, then self-managed is going to be the only other option they have for an abortion.”

Talking more frankly about self-managed abortion goes against longstanding American cultural norms. For years US reproductive rights groups stressed that the decision to end a pregnancy “was made between a woman and her doctor.” Internationally, where abortion has been more heavily criminalized, there is less pressure to involve medical professionals. It was in the legally restrictive context of Brazil in the late 1980s that women first pioneered the use of misoprostol to self-manage their abortions.

Rebecca Gomperts, the Dutch physician who in 2018 founded Aid Access to deliver abortion pills to US patients, has been one of the most vocal advocates for advance provision, and began offering it as an option to people in all 50 states last fall. Costs for the pills range from $110 to $150, with a sliding scale for those who lack funds. Recently, in Politico, Gomperts encouraged doctors to begin prescribing mifepristone and misoprostol to those who are not pregnant, so they have the medication available if they need it later.

“Abortion pills are something that, actually, you cannot die from,” she said. “There’s no way that you can overdose on it. And what we know from research is that you don’t need to do an ultrasound for a medical abortion.”

The idea of getting medication in advance of need is nothing new. Doctors also used to commonly prescribe emergency contraception to women before it became available over the counter.

Right now large mainstream abortion rights groups are mostly staying quiet on advance provision, leaving lesser-known organizations like Aid Access and Plan C to try to get out the word. (NARAL and Guttmacher declined to comment, and Planned Parenthood did not return requests for comment.)

Aid Access and Forward Midwifery are among the few groups currently offering US patients the option to order pills in advance, though Elisa Wells, co-director of Plan C, said she knows others are considering it. “I was just having a conversation with a provider in Montana,” she told me. “We believe it will become more common. Sometimes we call it the ‘just in case’ plan, because unplanned pregnancy is so common.”

It’s a safe option for most patients​

When it comes to safely ending pregnancies, medication abortion is over 95 percent successful, according to Guttmacher. Less than 0.4 percent of patients require hospitalization. The National Academies of Sciences, Engineering, and Medicine has also affirmedmedication abortion as a safe method to terminate pregnancy, one with very low risk of complications.

Research published earlier this year in the medical journal Lancet found self-managed abortions specifically to be very effective, and with high rates of patient satisfaction.

Gomperts also urges more attention on misoprostol-only abortions, which are common internationally. The drug can be easier for women to access since misoprostol is less tightly regulated; it’s used for other ailments including stomach ulcers and managing miscarriages, and is sold over the counter in many countries.

While medication abortion is a safe option for almost everyone with an early pregnancy, the pills are not recommended for people who take blood thinners, who have bleeding disorders, or who are at high risk of ectopic pregnancies. (Ultrasounds are recommended for those in this latter category.)

Still, one upside of advance provision — and medication abortion generally — is the greater number of people who could potentially provide the pills, including primary care doctors. Another upside is that it could be easier to share pills with those who need the medication quickly but lack access to it. Research suggests the drugs are best taken within the first 10 to 12 weeks of a pregnancy.

Paying attention to legal risks and criminalization​

Outside of groups that exploit international law like Aid Access, advance provision is unlikely to be a legal option in every state. Some states, for example, require patients to get ultrasoundsbefore a provider can give them abortion pills. Other states are cracking down on abortion pills themselves.

While few states currently ban self-managed abortion outright, many have existing laws that overzealous prosecutors could use to go after women, like fetal homicide statutes. “I am concerned that if people stockpile, without knowing the legal risks or how to cover their digital footprints, they could be subject to criminalization,” said Renee Bracey Sherman, founder of the abortion storytelling group We Testify.

The National Right to Life Foundation also released model legislation in mid-June that encourages states to criminalize those who “aid or abet” illegal abortions, including those who provide instructions over the phone or internet about self-managed methods.

Even in states with fewer legal concerns, advance provision won’t be the right option for everyone. “It’s a potentially high cost for a patient that is unlikely to be covered by insurance,” said Daniel Grossman, a physician and a professor of obstetrics and gynecology at the University of California San Francisco. Not everyone can afford to spend $150 to have a backup method available, and some people will still need or prefer in-person clinic care.

It hasn’t gone mainstream, yet​

In the days following the leaked draft of the Supreme Court’s decision to overturn Roe v. Wade, telehealth abortion providers reported spikes in internet searches and pill orders. Still, most Americans lack familiarity with not only abortion medication but also the few groups that currently provide the pills in advance. Some activists say leaders and more well-resourced organizations should do more to promote self-managed abortion as an option.

In December 2021, three UCSF reproductive health researchers, including Grossman, published an article calling advance provision“an unexplored care model that we believe holds promise and merits further study.”

Grossman told Vox that he believes more people should ask their primary care and reproductive health providers if they’d be open to prescribing or giving them abortion pills to store for later use. “Even if the doctor doesn’t want to, I think it’s worth just sparking a conversation with them and get their provider thinking,” he said. Grossman previously told Jezebel he’s found it challenging to get other researchers and health care providers to give advance provision the attention it deserves.

“We have ibuprofen in case of a headache, cough syrup in case of a cold, and Plan B in case of a broken condom,” said Bracey Sherman of We Testify. “It’s already normal for other health care and we should normalize it for abortion.”

Wells, from Plan C, said the historical restrictions placed on abortion have likely made some groups and individuals more reticent to talk about advance provision. “I think there’s probably a lot of fear about not wanting to break any rules,” she said.

Another factor limiting discussion, Wells suggested, is the way abortion has been heavily medicalized in the US, to the point where people believe the drugs have to be or are best administered by a medical professional. Attitudes are different internationally, she said.

“We have become so invested in saying that we need to have safe abortions and that doctors and clinicians and the clinics can provide that,” Wells said. “Clinicians have done a wonderful job, and we have to have all these different types of care options available, but [self-managed abortions] can be a bit of a threatening message to that whole system.”
 
Misoprostol has many uses. It wasn't first created for abortions, it was just repurposed for it. It was created as an anti-ulcer medication. I have a strange feeling in the states where abortion is heavily restricted/banned, there are going to be a sudden HUGE increase in ulcers...
 
Can't wait for homemade abortion pills to start leading to permanent disability or death; because women would rather ingest weird concoctions instead of be responsible.
5% failure rate is significant. The problems come when you have a more complex situation, like an ectopic pregnancy - woman takes the pills, thinks all is fine and then the tube bursts and that’s life threatening. Any miscarriage carries the risk of extremely heavy bleeding as well, although one of them does reduce the risk of that a bit. The article marks the pills as safe but the safety issues come not from the pills side effects per se but from ending a pregnancy with zero medical oversight. If someone starts bleeding heavily, or has an ectopic, that’s a danger. You’ve also got women using them too far along and that is again risky not becasue the pills themselves will hurt you but becasue giving birth as part of a miscarriage has risks, whether it’s spontaneous or induced.
 
Misoprostol has many uses. It wasn't first created for abortions, it was just repurposed for it. It was created as an anti-ulcer medication. I have a strange feeling in the states where abortion is heavily restricted/banned, there are going to be a sudden HUGE increase in ulcers...
Ulcers are like acid holes burned through your stomach, aren't they?

Sounds like the kind of thing you'd get just listening to a woman go on about how she can't get her abortion. But the more PC way to describe it would be stress.

:thinking:
 
“…others prefer to end pregnancies in the comfort of their own home.”


PL I had to take this medicine due to a failed wanted pregnancy and nothing about it is comfortable. They hand you the pills and send you home because it’s a day-long event. It’s not like a “convenience” thing like the article implies. The contractions begin an hour after the pills kick in, and those last 6 hours or so and then you’ll be cramping intensely and very nauseous. If you throw up too early on, you have to re-dose. You start to pass lots of clots and chunks and then you’ll take another round of pills and pass more clots and chunks in the toilet. The whole process takes like 12 hours or so. Redose until there are no more chunks. You will spend most of this time between alternating between your bed, the toilet, the bathroom floor so there’s no point doing this anywhere but home. It’s horribly painful physically and emotionally. I don’t know how anyone could take these pills without a strong narcotic. It’s usually prescribed alongside these medicines. I am thankful I took enough hydrocodone to be so drugged that I only remember small patches of that traumatic event, the pain relief was just a bonus. It also sucks to flush your offspring down the toilet. I mean, you could dig through the mixed toilet contents to find and keep it, or flush it away, but those are your only options and either choice will make you feel either insane or guilty. My God, I am not even 100% against abortion I just wish people knew the reality. They speak so frivolously as if it’s something simple and liberating.
 
Isn't this kind of like keeping Narcan at home "just in case"? Just in case what? You absentmindedly let a stranger raw dog you, and then suddenly you realize "oh geeze, it happened again, where's my RU486"? It really is maddening how they talk about something like pregnancy as if it were an unexplained random phenomenon that can't be avoided, like being struck by lightning on a clear day.

I don't think "not having sex" comes in pill form.
Well actually...
 
It really is maddening how they talk about something like pregnancy as if it were an unexplained random phenomenon that can't be avoided, like being struck by lightning on a clear day.
These are probably the same people who make fun of sky daddy and immaculate conception, too.

Maybe they secretly believe in it but only if it's Zeus because they want to get banged by superhero Norse gods and really they might as well let the Greeks in while they're at it.
 
They will dose themselves improperly and without adequate medical supervision and then blame their suicides-by-arrogance on the evil right winger and the medical establishment. There will be some retarded martyr figure who ruptures and bleeds out in a spectacular way whose name will be their new protest chant.

It will be darkly entertaining.
 
PL I had to take this medicine due to a failed wanted pregnancy and nothing about it is comfortable. They hand you the pills and send you home because it’s a day-long event. It’s not like a “convenience” thing like the article implies. The contractions begin an hour after the pills kick in, and those last 6 hours or so and then you’ll be cramping intensely and very nauseous. If you throw up too early on, you have to re-dose. You start to pass lots of clots and chunks and then you’ll take another round of pills and pass more clots and chunks in the toilet. The whole process takes like 12 hours or so. Redose until there are no more chunks. You will spend most of this time between alternating between your bed, the toilet, the bathroom floor so there’s no point doing this anywhere but home. It’s horribly painful physically and emotionally. I don’t know how anyone could take these pills without a strong narcotic. It’s usually prescribed alongside these medicines. I am thankful I took enough hydrocodone to be so drugged that I only remember small patches of that traumatic event, the pain relief was just a bonus. It also sucks to flush your offspring down the toilet. I mean, you could dig through the mixed toilet contents to find and keep it, or flush it away, but those are your only options and either choice will make you feel either insane or guilty. My God, I am not even 100% against abortion I just wish people knew the reality. They speak so frivolously as if it’s something simple and liberating.
The process of miscarriage is extremely distressing and unpleasant. It’s painful, you can lose a lot of blood, and it can go wrong - tissues may not detach properly, anything left behind can become septic etc. plus the emotional distress which is compounded by hormones being all over the place.
Leaving aside the moral arguments and focusing totally on the practical - Medics not wanting to hand these pills out like candy is about the consequences of self induced abortion/miscarriage which can be fatal. You need to be able to access medical support, before and after. Before to prepare you for what to expect and what to look for and follow on and during in case something goes badly wrong.
 
The body aborts fertilized eggs all the time for random reasons. If anything, this could make people pay more attention to their cycles and be on the look out instead of ignoring things for months and months.

But yes, an IUD is good and they very rarely fail. What is really needed is male contraceptives besides the condom. But I guess there's no money in that or something. There was a plug being developed awhile ago that was like 99% effective and reversible, but it never got off the ground even though everyone loved it. Big pharma didn't. More money in abortion pills and birth control pills.

Interesting to know. While I would personally think Plan B is more affordable/practical I can understand wanting a Plan C as well in the worst cases. I hope the League of Exceptional Histrionics pictured with the article is a LARP and they aren't taking the "ABORTION PILLS" just for funsies. I've been plan B buddies when some of my looser friends needed somewhere to chill after taking it and it didn't seem like a great time. I remember reading an account of someone who did a pharmaceutical abortion and it sounded way fucking worse. These aren't "dangerous" physically but it seems like a terrible time. Another thing the article glosses right over is that when women do this in the "comfort" of their own home, that usually means they're in for an extreme/traumatic experience all alone.

Plan B really shouldn't be taken on the regular. Its a massive dose of progesterone/estrogen and is for emergencies only. Yeah, abortion pills are fucking awful and don't feel all that great. Its almost like inducing a hemorrhage. But I mean, abortion has been obliterated already in so many states I don't even think overturning Roe v. Wade will do much of anything and these people live in states that will never get rid of abortion anyway, so I don't know what their damage is.
 
The body aborts fertilized eggs all the time for random reasons. If anything, this could make people pay more attention to their cycles and be on the look out instead of ignoring things for months and months.

But yes, an IUD is good and they very rarely fail. What is really needed is male contraceptives besides the condom. But I guess there's no money in that or something. There was a plug being developed awhile ago that was like 99% effective and reversible, but it never got off the ground even though everyone loved it. Big pharma didn't. More money in abortion pills and birth control pills.



Plan B really shouldn't be taken on the regular. Its a massive dose of progesterone/estrogen and is for emergencies only. Yeah, abortion pills are fucking awful and don't feel all that great. Its almost like inducing a hemorrhage. But I mean, abortion has been obliterated already in so many states I don't even think overturning Roe v. Wade will do much of anything and these people live in states that will never get rid of abortion anyway, so I don't know what their damage is.
The "frequent flyer" of the bunch is legit bipolar and showed me their "list" which was a 220+ entry spreadsheet with a terrifying level of detail. Her potentially raising some fatherless child qualifies as an emergency from my perspective. The kid would definitely be fucked and society likely wouldn't have been any better for it. Plus she was hardcore anorexic so she had tons of meal plan money she'd use to buy me breakfast in return for driving. Honestly she was enough of a personal lolcow it was worth my time regardless.
 
What is really needed is male contraceptives besides the condom. But I guess there's no money in that or something.
There's less than no money in this. There is negative money in it if this... Pubmed.gov yahoo questions thing? Is any indication.

Setting aside the allegation that the only reason a man would want to be sterile is to cheat on his wife, the asker implies that if the woman were fertile then sterilizing her husband would give her grounds to sue the doctor for depriving her of potential babies. (so much for my body my choice, if it's a man).

Abstract​

Question: A middle-aged man whose wife has undergone a hysterectomy wants to have a vasectomy. His obvious intent is to engage in extramarital relations without fear of causing a pregnancy. May I perform a vasectomy on this man without his wife's permission or knowledge and consider myself not vulnerable to suit by the wife? Since she is sterile, she could not claim she was deprived of having further children. What is your consultant's opinion?
Answer: This question is one that has not been litigated thus far. Since there may be serious legal implications, a physician confronted with this problem should seek legal advice from his own attorney. It is not part of the legal obligation imposed on a physician that he police the sexual morality of his patients. On the other hand, he has no obligation to perform a procedure for which there is no medical necessity merely because the patient requests it. There is no rule of law that states that one spouse can prevent the other from receiving medical care that is desired. There also does not appear to be any legal rule that states that one spouse must always be informed of medical care received by the other. Nevertheless, spouses do have certain mutual interests in each other. Interference with these interests might provide a basis for liability. A wife might well sue a physician under these circumstances. Whether the suit would be successful cannot be conclusively determined.
 
The process of miscarriage is extremely distressing and unpleasant. It’s painful, you can lose a lot of blood, and it can go wrong - tissues may not detach properly, anything left behind can become septic etc. plus the emotional distress which is compounded by hormones being all over the place.
Leaving aside the moral arguments and focusing totally on the practical - Medics not wanting to hand these pills out like candy is about the consequences of self induced abortion/miscarriage which can be fatal. You need to be able to access medical support, before and after. Before to prepare you for what to expect and what to look for and follow on and during in case something goes badly wrong.
They already hand it out way too freely with zoom appointments and the like. Way too casual about accurately getting a grip on gestational age. Add to that some self-appointed lay abortionists who subscribe to the "some works slowly, more works better and faster!" attitude and you'll have uterine ruptures galore.
 
Ulcers are like acid holes burned through your stomach, aren't they?

Sounds like the kind of thing you'd get just listening to a woman go on about how she can't get her abortion. But the more PC way to describe it would be stress.

:thinking:

Stress ulcers can occur, they are a result of psychogenic conversion of stress into gastric symptoms. They are the exception to the ulcer rule though these days. The supermajority of ulcers are caused by infections by H. Pylori bacteria.
 
Oops I slipped and semen went right into my lady parts
 
Smh these hoes for real defying god with their abortions and pills. I tell ye if thou pray to St. Floyd his Holy Melinated Spirit will come down and blast that fetus right out of that womb!
 
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