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should the 10 commandments be required in schools?
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Only if they don't cover it up during tests that ask about the ten commandments! Like how world history teachers used to cover the map posters during tests.
And at least it's not the koran or some other stupid stuff. I've always liked how easy christianity can be ignored if you aren't personally religious. Muslims however, are like customers who feel entitled to make you listen to their retarded drivel.
But you'll occasionally have to see a cross somewhere or abide by laws prohibiting degeneracy, how can you possibly ignore trans rights being set back?!
In high school, my Government teacher was a full-on libfag with tons of political posters in his class. He couldn't shut the fuck up about the Democratic party. He had to ram his politics down everyone's throats as much as possible. The man treated politics like a religion. For those of you who have been out of the public education system for a very long time, I promise you that we've had what amounts to a political nu-religion in schools for at least a decade. I don't think any of this stuff should be rammed down the throats of kids. The teachers are underequipped to teach this stuff in the nuanced manner the way that you people are discussing it here (read: most of them are shit at their jobs and/or don't understand the nuances themselves) and the kids are underequipped to appreciate it for themselves.
It's a shallow measure at best, but I guess that it's better than some faggot who can't shut up about how important left wing political issue #64345 is.
I think there's a strong secular argument for it too. Cultural Christianity is an important thing that even some of the most virulent, militant Atheists like Dawking agree is good.
I think that Satanism should be a required course in American public schools because if you're going to endorse an official state religion, you might as well be honest about what you truly believe.
I think there's a strong secular argument for it too. Cultural Christianity is an important thing that even some of the most virulent, militant Atheists like Dawking agree is good.
That's fine, religion should be treated much like your genitals. Not something that should ever be forced on anyone and inappropriate to whip out at school.
I think there's a strong secular argument for it too. Cultural Christianity is an important thing that even some of the most virulent, militant Atheists like Dawking agree is good.
Yes, and it's the parents' and pastors' responsibility to do that, not state-employed educators. Do people really trust state-employed union teachers to instruct children in Christian theology? This is what separation of church and state was all about, to keep the state from influencing and controlling people's religious beliefs.
Not nonsense like tearing down nativity scenes or Christmas trees.
It's not like a single crime or immoral act in history has ever been prevented because of the Ten Commandments themselves, if you don't believe in that specific God or his punishments for violating them they're completely meaningless. You need faith in God to begin with to care about the Commandments.
Think a basic ethics class would be far more useful. Wouldn’t be against classes in high school that offer secular study of the Bible as a kind of cultural lingua franca but the commandments are pretty useless as a moral code. The only good ones are ones everyone knows. Normal people don’t need to be told killing and stealing are bad
Christianity vs atheism used to be MLP tier levels of cringe but in recent years, like it or not, christianity in schools keeps normies from becoming antifa. Schools should have to recite the pledge, have proper classes on history of america and why it is good, and they should have the 10 commandments but there shouldn't be harsh penalties or even slight penalties for kids not playing along. Bare minimum it will keep at least a chunk of normies from becoming antifa niggers and thinking they're helping the world by burning shit down.
The better solution is education on how shitty and backwards third world brown countries are but even in the 90s that would be considered too racist and would never fly today. So the best you are gonna get away with is christianity.
Lets see if current day politicians can live up to the 10 Commandments. I highly doubt they would. Adultery and worship of false idols, IE money and power is the political go too. Of course its just holier than thou politicians speaking out the side of their mouths.
I don't like how Jewish the American government is this so I can see were this can go wrong, I'd rather listen to the church aka the body of Christ and the saints. Then a jew government who hates Christian values and would use every opportunity to destroy it.
If there's a theology class or a religous school, of course. If it is for history, it also is a good idea, especially for history of law and government. If it is to follow, what's the point?
1. Freedom of Religion
2. Freedom of Religion
3. 1 & 2, but saying his name in vain has several different interpretations from never invoking him in anger, never invoking him in a non-church context, never invoking him in a false light, not using it for magic - it's a hard one to qualify and Americans
4. Even amongst religious people this can mean various levels of acceptable and unacceptable, and you can't impose what level of it on a group of kids who may or may not share the same faith. Some would demand more, some less, families would fight and kids would bully each other over it.
5. Respect your mom and dad should be a general lesson taught by life.
6. A good thing to teach kids in general for many reasons even outside religion.
7. This has to be introduced at the proper age and at age appropriate times. Parents would be mad if their 7 year old asked "what's adultery?" when they came home from school since its so associated with sex. "You shall not betray the person you are in love with by loving another at the same time" would be better for the age group, then once sex ed is given, you can reveal the full one. A good lesson to learn, but marriage can be out of reach for some age grouls.
8. Just like #7, a great lesson to learn for everyone.
9. See previous.
10. The way that it is worded is harder to teach. A hard mandate on not coveting things can mean children never directly learn to address those feelings because they feel sinful and evil. Teaching children why we shouldn't covet AND how to deal with those feelings instead of phrasing it like "never feel bad ever" helps in the long run. A child can feel envious or want what someone has, but should be taught that letting it drive you to do bad or mistreat others won't bring happiness. Emphasizing less focus on material wealth can go with that too. Children are going to feel shitty, especially if they're in a mixed income area and their parent(s) are struggling to keep the lights on. Coveting basic needs or a less worse situation is understandable, and "do not covet" could be used to self shame or shame by peers if the child expresses them, thus you're poor and you're evil lol. Expressing things properly, dealing with jealousy & feelings in a healthy fashion, and knowing that it's not what you feel but why and how not to drag others down with you so you don't lie, steal, cheat, or worse to get there is the ideal. Basically, I like the idea, I just know public education would have to teach it in a way that doesn't fuck it up.
The problem is freedom of religion. We should all have equal rights to choose. I know it sounds to some of you, but it protects minor schisms and freedom of expression in even Christian communities only. God can be taught on Sunday or whichever day(s) the family decides to attend church. The interpretation of the commandments shouldn't become a law debate or an education one since people would spend all the government's time nitpicking interpretations. People would try to make their interpretation enforced by the government, and by fuck that's a terrible idea and one of the reasons the founding fathers said "fuck that shit."
Besides, it then opens up "but what about muh five pillars" from muslisms.
It should be better to post some rules of basic decency in regards to behaviour, and not focus on religion, such as:
- Try to be empathetic towards living creatures.
- Try to greet others when entering the class.
- Be honest towards others.
- Etc.
There is 0 need for commandments, or anything pertaining to religion, unless it's a class dedicated to it. In the end, what will take over is their education/manners their household is imparting on them, and how their environment is; that shit is not going to do anything if they're bullied in shcool and teachers don't do anything about it; it won't do anything if their parents are abusive; it won't do anything if their friends are gangster wannabes and entice the child to follow them.
Like always, the root is affected by multiple long-term aspects, not a panel nailed to the wall with some text written on it. Metaphorically, that's like a rotting bandage falling off of an amputated leg, if the kids suffers from any of the mentioned scenarios.
to some of you, but it protects minor schisms and freedom of expression in even Christian communities only. God can be taught on Sunday or whichever day(s) the family decides to attend church. The interpretation of the commandments shouldn't become a law debate or an education one since people would spend all the government's time nitpicking interpretations. People would try to make their interpretation enforced by the government, and by fuck that's a terrible idea and one of the reasons the founding fathers said "fuck that shit."
