Should being a thief be legally justified if you are poor?

[paperwork]

Consider this hypothetical situation: you find yourself as an average American post-COVID residing in a northern state, burdened by financial struggles. Carrying your last $1000 in cash to pay rent during a harsh winter with soaring inflation, you are living paycheck to paycheck. In a desperate attempt to survive, you grapple with the decision to resort to theft. Given the absence of a support network, the imminent risk of eviction, and the potential for life-threatening exposure or starvation on the streets without the rent money, the question arises: should it be legally justified to engage in theft as a means of self-preservation for those facing dire circumstances?

Drawing parallels to the previous scenario involving the use of force to protect oneself, one wonders if there are situations where resorting to theft, despite its illegal nature, might be deemed justified under the pressing circumstances of survival and the absence of viable alternatives. How should the legal system balance the necessity for basic human needs against the principles of property rights and societal norms, particularly when the threat of eviction and life-threatening conditions looms large?

 

[Whiskey]

No retard.

It would legit be better to embrace complete anarchy and murder anyone who crosses or threatens your family then legalize physical theft.

 

[Freshly Baked Socks]

A friend once told me about his grandfather being mentioned in the local paper after shooting a nigger in the back when caught stealing a sack of corn from his barn.

Apparently its better to kill one thief than become the local "free corn depot".

I hope you value your life more than I value my corn.

 

[WeWuzFinns]

Kill thieves. Behead thieves. Roundhouse kick a thief into the concrete. Slam dunk a thief baby into the trashcan. Crucify filthy criminals. Defecate in a thieves food. Launch thieves into the sun. Stir fry thieves in a wok. Toss thieves into active volcanoes. Urinate into a thieves gas tank. Judo throw thieves into a wood chipper. Twist thieves heads off. Report thieves to the IRS. Karate chop thieves in half. Curb stomp pregnant thieves. Trap thieves in quicksand. Crush thieves in the trash compactor. Liquefy thieves in a vat of acid. Eat thieves. Dissect thieves. Exterminate thieves in the gas chamber. Stomp thief skulls with steel toed boots. Cremate thieves in the oven. Lobotomize thieves. Mandatory abortions for thieves. Grind thief fetuses in the garbage disposal. Drown thieves in fried chicken grease. Vaporize thieves with a ray gun. Kick old thieves down the stairs. Feed thieves to alligators. Slice thieves with a katana.

The following actions should be legally justified.

 

[Lokenstien]

I would rather kill myself than actively steal from others. I take great pity on beggars and love buskers as both groups appeal to to human kindness and appreciation to get by. Thieves knowingly take by force the property of others because they are unable to accept grace and kindness from others for dumb and petty reasons. The only potentially reasonable theft is that of Food and Water and even then there are far more civil ways to acquire such resources than theft. Jail is certainty one way to survive a harsh winter but there are easier and less destructive ways to secure such a place in such dismal conditions.

There is no way to gauge that other private citizens can afford to lose valuables because you can't afford rent and your thefts could easily leave others in the same desolate position you began in. To steal from others is to force ones own issues onto another, thus continuing the cycle of misery.

God do I fucking hate these newfags and their horrendous water filled cranium takes that wreak of internet brain rot.

 

[paperwork]

I feel like there should be a trophy for being called a newfag

 

[Rungle]

If your body is still functional to steal, then its also functional to work.

Stealing from others isnt born out of desperation.
Its born out of laziness.
Lets say that my skills are not currently applicable all of a sudden.

What stops me from cleaning, or serving?
And should there be no jobs, there are currently many shelters that can take you in.

And if all fails, I'd beg, but I'd never steal.

 

[Fastest Hand In The East]

Being poor should be a legal justification for physical ellimination.

 

[SSj_Ness (Yiffed)]

If you break into a home you're a threat, period.

However, though it should not be legal, it should just be a slap on the wrist to steal a loaf of bread from a store, a minor infraction.

 

[CptnSnshn]

Depends if you're stealing as it's your last real chance to eat, then yes that is justified and the goverment shouldn't have let you get into that position.

Otherwise no.

 

[User names must be unique]

Legally no never. Morally maybe, depends what you steal and from whom.

 

[The Tall Man]

If you are a thief to incompetent to get away with it you deserve what's coming.
What would be fun in thieving if the risk of you own live wouldn't be at stake?

 

[SNU]

Yes but the rules are:
-people are allowed to use deadly force to stop you.
-you can only steal. Using force of any kind is still criminal. The only time you can use force is if you have left their property and dropped everything you stole but they are still attacking you

 

[paperwork]

Yes but the rules are:
-people are allowed to use deadly force to stop you.
-you can only steal. Using force of any kind is still criminal. The only time you can use force is if you have left their property and dropped everything you stole but they are still attacking you

am I allowed to use force if someone who is not the owner of the property intervenes to try and use force to prevent my theft? technically they are an uninvolved third party so their use of force is a new crime against my person, should I be legally justified in shooting them dead?

 

[SNU]

am I allowed to use force if someone who is not the owner of the property intervenes to try and use force to prevent my theft? technically they are an uninvolved third party so their use of force is a new crime against my person, should I be legally justified in shooting them dead?

I don't know. We'll have to figure that out. On one side, it's nice to look out for other people. You know, community and all that. On the other side, its usually gay wannabe heros who actually get involved in shit. They aren't usually doing it to look out for someone. They are usually just doing it for selfish reasons.

Maybe we just make it so if a third party jumps in and enters the property they accept the risk and it becomes a pvp area

 

[Insuficiencia renal]

Who cares about the law?

 

[𝕺𝖑' 𝕯𝖎𝖗𝖙𝖞 𝕱𝖆𝖙𝖘𝖔]

It's one thing to steal food from a supermarket or something like cheap socks or underwear from Walmart, it's another to steal a car or break into someone's house. If you're stealing actual necessities from a big corporation then it shouldn't be punished as heavily as stealing from innocent private citizens imo. Like it's still wrong but it's not as immoral. But then again you're still going to have morons who can afford to pay for what they stole taking advantage of more lenient punishments, so it's pretty much impossible to really carry out in practice.

 

[Saddam Hussain Obama]

no and they should get their hands chopped off

 

[Moths]

A friend once told me about his grandfather being mentioned in the local paper after shooting a nigger in the back when caught stealing a sack of corn from his barn.

Apparently its better to kill one thief than become the local "free corn depot".

I hope you value your life more than I value my corn.

GIVE ME LIBERTY OR GIVE ME CORN

 

[paperwork]

It's one thing to steal food from a supermarket or something like cheap socks or underwear from Walmart, it's another to steal a car or break into someone's house. If you're stealing actual necessities from a big corporation then it shouldn't be punished as heavily as stealing from innocent private citizens imo. Like it's still wrong but it's not as immoral. But then again you're still going to have morons who can afford to pay for what they stole taking advantage of more lenient punishments, so it's pretty much impossible to really carry out in practice.

OP was a shitpost but this is a really good answer.