Should adultery be criminalized as a sexual offense? - Sexual Assault + Theft = 100% Legal?

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Lichen Bark dijo:
Totally agree, however, currently they will take lots of your money in divorce, and you will have a less chance of getting kids in said divorce if you're not the right sex. The government is very much in bed with your marriage. I don't think you're ever going to stop adultery, but it would be nice if after your marriage gets destroyed you don't end up paying huge sums of alimony, and perhaps a better chance of you getting time with the kids. To clarify if you are the one getting cheated on, and you initiate divorce as a "penalty" there is a good chance its going to hurt your wallet for a long long time. So you cut off your own arm, to poke her in the eye.
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This is a good argument for divorce law reform. You're absolutely right that the family court system is a mess, and should be changed, but that doesn't make putting people in jail or bankrupting them through fines for fucking someone they aren't married to a good idea.
 
FunPosting101 dijo:
This is a good argument for divorce law reform. You're absolutely right that the family court system is a mess, and should be changed, but that doesn't make putting people in jail or bankrupting them through fines for fucking someone they aren't married to a good idea.
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No, you can't be putting people in jail for that kind of thing, but if you're male, it certainly makes marriage financially very dangerous. I'd be happy with reform, the family courts are hellish, and in this day and age where women are equal to men it's only fair to split things properly. It's not a fun thing to think about, maybe you worked really hard to ensure a comfortable retirement, and now it's all gone to shit because marriage issue's? Lol, I don't want to be in the old age home where they beat you, I want to be in the one, that costs more, and they don't beat you.

I guess really I am just thinking about divorce, off topic from "adultery legal!?!?"
 
It should be dealt with under contract law when within the bonds of marriage.

Also marriage should be a self expiring contract with a 5 year term. If you don't take positive action to renew it in the eyes of the state you're now divorced.
 
FunPosting101 dijo:
You want to potentially put people in jail or fine them stupid amounts of money for hurting their partner's feelings. Do you not understand how terrible an idea that is? The last fucking thing we need is the state having even more reasons to imprison or impoverish people.
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Why? If you can be fined for calling someone a dumb slut or a nigger, the wiseness of that being its own beast but not something the public seems to want to stop, it doesn't seem that big a step for something more damaging.

I have noted how the usual loud voices for sexual morality and decency are deafeningly silent here as a side note.
 
Fagatron dijo:
Why? If you can be fined for calling someone a dumb slut or a nigger, the wiseness of that being its own beast but not something the public seems to want to stop, it doesn't seem that big a step for something more damaging.

I have noted how the usual loud voices for sexual morality and decency are deafeningly silent here as a side note.
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Fining someone for mean words is also a bad idea, and you want to make it even worse? I'm not one of those "loud voices" you're talking about BTW, I favor legal hookers, legal abortion and legal homos. I object to tranny bullshit and stuff involving kids(redundant in many cases now since the troons have somehow gotten nuttier)since firstly, Trannies are fucking nuts and kids can't consent secondly. You however seem to think expanding the government's power of arrest and imprisonment even more than it already has been is somehow a good idea because the public has been okay with it so far.

My response is that the public is frequently an ass, and what seems to be a good idea in the spur of the moment can quickly turn out to be a very bad idea when you actually stop and think about it for a minute.
 
Yes. In addition to the obvious moral reasons behind why it should be illegal, it should also be looked at from a pragmatic perspective. Adultery is a common trigger for divorce and also spousal violence. Divorce ties up the legal system with extremely complex cases and also leads to a great deal of trauma if the couple going through the divorce has a child. It also degrades societal trust and endangers the person who was cheated upon since it exposes them to STDs. Additionally, if there's no legal recourse for a person cheated on to seek reprisals, it shouldn't come as a surprise that they might seek extralegal options for reprisal.
 
We have infidelity laws here, and it's just about the only protection anyone has in this instance, legally. Of course, it's almost always ignored or thrown out in divorce proceedings.

Honestly, though, I think it should be, but not punished in a way that puts you on a registry. Women need to be held accountable for at least something, for a fucking change. As for men, I think the punishment should be physical, like a beating of some sort.

Infidelity is the only crime other than child abuse where I think it should be acceptable to take half of someone's value in a divorce. 100% of the rest of the time, it's unjustifiable. At least get some damages out of that whore.
 
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Brahma dijo:
Also marriage should be a self expiring contract with a 5 year term. If you don't take positive action to renew it in the eyes of the state you're now divorced.
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That's actually a decent idea in regards to how marriage is treated in society nowadays. It's almost like the law hasn't caught up with the way people now view marriages.
 
scathefire dijo:
That's actually a decent idea in regards to how marriage is treated in society nowadays. It's almost like the law hasn't caught up with the way people now view marriages.
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Laws and morality adjusting themselves to how people view things is why the modern western world is a meme.
 
FunPosting101 dijo:
Fining someone for mean words is also a bad idea, and you want to make it even worse? I'm not one of those "loud voices" you're talking about BTW, I favor legal hookers, legal abortion and legal homos. I object to tranny bullshit and stuff involving kids(redundant in many cases now since the troons have somehow gotten nuttier)since firstly, Trannies are fucking nuts and kids can't consent secondly. You however seem to think expanding the government's power of arrest and imprisonment even more than it already has been is somehow a good idea because the public has been okay with it so far.

My response is that the public is frequently an ass, and what seems to be a good idea in the spur of the moment can quickly turn out to be a very bad idea when you actually stop and think about it for a minute.
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Sorry, the thing about the voices wasn't aimed at you. I'm sure you can think of a few theocon larpers that could easily apply to here off the top of your head as can I.

To be honest from what you said we are pretty much on the same page with the above. I just don't really know how you can make marriage a serious business and discourage the main thing that fucks marriages up beyond incentivising it and at the same time provide strong discouragement for acting against it.
 
Fagatron dijo:
Sorry, the thing about the voices wasn't aimed at you. I'm sure you can think of a few theocon larpers that could easily apply to here off the top of your head as can I.

To be honest from what you said we are pretty much on the same page with the above. I just don't really know how you can make marriage a serious business and discourage the main thing that fucks marriages up beyond incentivising it and at the same time provide strong discouragement for acting against it.
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Well, in theory you could reform the family court system so that it's more balanced and less of a nightmare for anyone with a dick, that might make men more inclined to marry in the first place and women less inclined to be eager to divorce a man for frivolous reasons. How you would go about doing that is a whole other thread and probably better handled by people experienced with the law though.
 
Estate dijo:
If your wife cheats, you beat or kill her.
If you husband cheats, you get your brothers and/or dad to beat or kill him.
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Good luck using that logic in court, you will be imprisoned.

If you cheat in a marriage, that's breach of contract and should be punished.
Not really about being an incel, it's more that it's emotional assault and can lead to PTSD. Which of course can make you into a incel.
 
We should stone the adulterers.

But for real, you shouldn't go to jail for it, but it still needs to be punishable.
 
In the book Utopia, Utopian society punishes adultery and forces all parties responsible to carry out the sentence (the one that cheated and the one they cheated with). It’s an interesting part of of the book.
 
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