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I was looking into alternatives to Discord before the Iran bullshit kicked off and I switched my focus to cleaning my guns and packing my bugout bag. I don't have a lot to add but I'll pull up my notes:
ETA: a couple things I forgot/didn't have time to mention:
- Signal is a glowop. It may not have started that way, but it is fully compromised now. Others have posted about it plenty but the gist as I understand it:
- Signal president is Meredith Whittaker, ex-Google where she allegedly worked on censorship algorithms, talks a big game on privacy and security but only when it comes to people who share her worldview, explicitly hates Kiwifarms and mentioned us by name, supposed affiliate of Elliot """Liz""" Fong Jones.
- Signal board of directors chair is Katherine Maher, the current CEO and president of NPR; former CEO and executive director of Wikimedia where she supposedly cooperated with the CIA in staging tabletop election exercises (I have not fact checked this); member of both the Council on Foreign Relations and Foreign Affairs Policy Board under the State Department; WEF affiliate; World Bank affiliate; United Nations/UNICEF affiliate; National Democratic Institute affiliate; Atlantic Council (NATO thinktank) affiliate; and "longtime fellow" of the Truman National Security Project where she led the Afghanistan Operations Center and allegedly worked directly with former CIA Director Leon Panetta. She fucking glows, and her appointment by Whittaker caused several high profile individuals including the founder of Telegram to speculate that the Signal project has been compromised.
- Fun fact, if you remember the Senate special hearing on biased news media where a journo got blown the fuck out to the point of tears because she was asked if she ever read the book The Case For Reparations and said she hadn't and then got read out a transcript of her own tweet talking about taking the day off work to read The Case For Reparations, that was Katherine Maher.
- During her time at Wikimedia, her supposed stance on free speech took a complete 180, from stating “Free knowledge is inherently radical” and “We exist to liberate information” c. 2017, to referring to the free and open dissemination of information as a “white male Westernized construct" and stating “On the side of governmental regulation, the number-one challenge here that we see is, of course, the First Amendment” years later.
- Her mommy and daddy are/were a Democratic congresswoman and a Goldman Sachs executive, respectively.
- Signal received $3M in funding between 2013 and 2016 from the Open Technology Fund, which was itself founded as a propaganda apparatus with oversight from various government entities with a direct lineage to the CIA. (This is where the claims that Signal is/was funded by the CIA come from as best I can tell, it's quite a rabbit hole and I can explain it in more detail if you want because I wasted a lot of time trying to source that claim.)
- Aside from that, there are security concerns because it requires PII to use, the backend is a black box using AWS and apparently Cloudflare (?), and the client is distributed by Google and Apple who are both NSA surveillance partners. Whether you think those are reasonable criticisms is subjective, since all of those things are true of many, many apps and services, but few that bill themselves as private and secure with any kind of credibility.
- If you're schizo: there's a not-that-far-out theory that Fedward Glowden is a plant and his job is to push civilians onto Tor because they realized that if only military intelligence agents use the network then if the network were compromised then everyone on it could be positively identified as a military intelligence agent, whereas populating it with civilians gives anyone using the network plausible deniability; Glowden pushed Signal as hard as he pushed Tor so some believe it's the same op, if not a honeypot as well.
- Somebody said Matrix is Israeli, I haven't been able to verify that claim but I also haven't tried very hard.
- Revolt/Stoat is run by bluesky trannies and made using Electron which as I understand it is basically the Unity of software development, I don't know I'm not a fucking nerd
- SimpleX
- Briar
- Wire
- Tox
- Gay Gym/XMPP
and as of this thread, - Columba
ETA: a couple things I forgot/didn't have time to mention:
- SimpleX, Briar and Wire, as well as clients for Tox and XMPP are all on F-Droid, a FOSS repository that from what I understand has fairly strict standards for what it will and will not host in regards to tracking and privacy. That said, F-Droid also hosts Matrix clients and modified forks of Session and Telegram, so who's to say. It's a step above Signal and Telegram, at least.
- Speaking of, I personally would not trust Telegram. I am not entirely convinced it is compromised per se, as I absolutely 100% believe the Signal Foundation is running a disinfo campaign against them, which either means they're legit or they're a glow-op from a competing intelligence agency (it's all so tiresome). Rather, I have heard that Telegram handles files in such a way that it will predownload and cache them without any user engagement, which leaves users vulnerable to a long-time favorite from the glownigger script kiddie handbook of planting CP on your drives in order to use it as justification for further action -- the digital equivalent of planting drugs on a POI to justify their detention. Also being that it has earned the ire of the Signal Foundation and the Signal Foundation is absolutely compromised then it has effectively made itself a target for glowniggers and I don't want to get caught in the crossfire. From what I remember it also requires the same PII as Signal i.e. phone number, contacts, but I haven't looked nearly as hard at it just because of the above reasons.
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