Serious LGBT Discussion

[BirdUp]

This thread is "serious lgbt discussion" but has ignorant homophobes who are in here just to "dunk on the gays", what a trashfire.

how far are you into AIDS

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

how far are you into AIDS

further than i would've been without posting in here...im so fucked (in the ass)....

 

[BirdUp]

further than i would've been without posting in here...im so fucked (in the ass)....

lol faggot

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Go on and tell me how Stephanie and Hank's relationship is going to go better than Tim and Bob's relationship just because it's straight.

Reading your answers, it is clear to me you are a disingenuous faggot, but I'd rather want you to tell me what is the difference between these two instances.

Did you know that even in gay relationships there are typically feminine/masculine dynamics in the same way a straight one has them?

I find it very strange that somebody who is ostensibly exposed to tranny delusion would come up with this shit, my sides

I read over the posts again and he is DEFINITELY just an aggressively self-hating gay person, no question about it.
The immense self-hatred is still due to his unresolved trauma of being assaulted.

So you basically insist on disregard everything he's wrote, or you're illiterate, or both.

intimacy

You keep using that word, yadda yadda yadda you know how it goes...

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Reading your answers, it is clear to me you are a disingenuous faggot, but I'd rather want you to tell me what is the difference between these two instances.

One is heckin wholesome chungus and the other is a straight relationship.

I find it very strange that somebody who is ostensibly exposed to tranny delusion would come up with this shit, my sides

I don't expect you to even try to understand since you comfortably hate fags and don't see them as human to begin with, when I am apparently being the disingenuous one.

So you basically insist on disregard everything he's wrote, or you're illiterate, or both.

Extremely ironic you would accuse me of this when we both came to the exact same conclusion that the dude needs therapy.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I don't expect you to even try to understand since you comfortably hate fags and don't see them as human to begin with, when I am apparently being the disingenuous one.

Yes, you are disingenuous.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

Yes, you are disingenuous.

You didn't deny what I said, so if I am, then so are you.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

You didn't deny what I said, so if I am, then so are you.

I don't have to deny anything, I don't have to prove my 'innocence', pal.

I just made a case in this thread. If you decide to add to it and make up stuff that I never said or did, I am under no obligation to do anything about it.

I am under no obligation to clarify posts I didn't write or words I didn't say or acts I didn't commit, just because you say I did.

Woke tricks don't-a work on-a me.

 

[YHWH's Strongest Soldier]

This thread is "serious lgbt discussion" but has ignorant homophobes who are in here just to "dunk on the gays", what a trashfire.

Not sure what made you think there is a serious thread on Kiwi Farms. After 1-2 days of discussion, it always devolves into people calling each other fags and then it dies for a month.

Dude, imagine writing this with a straight face.

Fucking europeans, bro

LMFAO

This is your brain on Europe.

Americans will never experience life in a country of thin women. It's honestly a wonder that not more of you are homos.

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

I don't have to deny anything, I don't have to prove my 'innocence', pal.

I just made a case in this thread. If you decide to add to it and make up stuff that I never said or did, I am under no obligation to do anything about it.

I am under no obligation to clarify posts I didn't write or words I didn't say or acts I didn't commit, just because you say I did.

Woke tricks don't-a work on-a me.

Your case when you barged into the thread again was telling people to stop telling a gay dude that he's gay though?
Even a retard like me could figure out what you really mean when you say shit like that.

As I already said you sensibly told him to get therapy, regardless of if he's gay or not, just like I did.
I don't see the problem you have with saying that someone experiencing all the traits of homosexuality should accept they're gay, because you can't change your sexuality.

 

[Ewan McGregor]

I don't see the problem you have with saying that someone experiencing all the traits of homosexuality should accept they're gay, because you can't change your sexuality.

So, let me get this straight (heh) a guy who thinks might be attracted to guys or feels uncomfortable or uneasy towards girls needs to go get buggered ASAP, but a guy who, after six years (six!) of being a full-fledged faggot, decides he (understandably) hates it and wants nothing to do with it isn't allowed to even entertain the idea and his discomfort is invalid and probably the result of some self-hate, or internalized homophobia or some other shit you guys usually come up with?

Lol, OK groomer

 

[Lightsaber Dildo]

So, let me get this straight (heh) a guy who thinks might be attracted to guys or feels uncomfortable or uneasy towards girls needs to go get buggered ASAP, but a guy who, after six years (six!) of being a full-fledged faggot, decides he (understandably) hates it and wants nothing to do with it isn't allowed to even entertain the idea and his discomfort is invalid and probably the result of some self-hate, or internalized homophobia or some other shit you guys usually come up with?

Lol, OK groomer

Well since you got it completely fucking wrong I guess I see where the problem is.

There is some complete dictionary self-hate and internalized homophobia going on, it's funny you try to dismiss it so readily. Almost as if you knew that was the case and are being disingenuous, but anyway!

What does any of that have to do with performing the impossible task of changing your sexuality?
Do you honestly, seriously think someone can be changed from gay to straight and vice versa?
You seriously think someone can train themselves to get aroused to men or women, or back again?

 

[Ewan McGregor]

Do you honestly, seriously think someone can be changed from gay to straight and vice versa?
You seriously think someone can train themselves to get aroused to men or women, or back again?

No, and I never claimed otherwise.

I just think the gay lifestyle should not be encouraged. It is shit, you know that it is shit, I know that it is shit. Everybody knows that it is shit.

I think it immoral to market as anything else, especially to the confused, and especially when you know for a fact that it's shit. That's tranny behaviour.

And if so, I would tell you to go crack eggs to hell.

 

[Back To School]

Look, if there's an aspect of you that you can't change, embracing it is all you have left. You can be in denial and force yourself to pretend being something you're not, but that's tranny logic at the end of the day.

I don’t think there’s any benefit to me embracing something that is so harmful and self-destructive. That would be the same thing as telling me to embrace having a scat or zoo kink - at the end of the day all degeneracy is degeneracy.

I don't know what you did in the 6 years of being gay that made you this ashamed of it, but I can assure you that these behaviors are not exclusive to gay people.

When my homosexual condition was at it’s worst, I was sleeping with multiple guys (I’d say 15+) a week, going to bathhouses and getting high at circuit parties, and inadvertently put myself in situations where I was sexually assaulted either by being overpowered or drugged. I know I would have not experienced multiple accounts of sexual assault if I was straight given that girls don’t rape men like that.

When it comes to me sleeping around, I know that having a “whore phase” is not just exclusive to gay people, but the way gay people sleep around is very different compared to how straight people done it. Studies show that gay men will end up with 500+ sexual partners in their lifetime. That is not normal. The majority of my gay friends have had roughly 200 sexual partners in a six year span and I don’t consider that normal, nor would most people.

The guy's at least is self-conscious enough to realise how self-destructive the gay lifestyle is, and you all know positively how self-destructive it is, even if he's mislead about what to do about it is and you are all going reddit tranny on him to own the chuds

Thank you for recognizing that my desire to get rid of my homosexuality and exile myself out of the dangerous and corrupt gay “community” is a good thing. I don’t think that those in this thread on the pro-gay side (like @Lightsaber Dildo ) are remotely coming from a negative or pushy place, I appreciate their kindness, but I respectfully think that they’re misinformed and that encouraging someone to continue to live with a homosexual lifestyle is setting them up for a life of potential danger and objective degeneracy.

In the same vein, you're going to end up killing yourself if you can't accept who you are and spend your whole life trying to be something you're not. If you're gay that's who you are.

I can’t ever picture me killing myself I would never do that to my family, though it has been on my mind a lot recently since I realized that there’s no way to get rid of my homosexuality and I don’t want to live with this condition.

You're going to miss out on being happy because you're just going to be miserable for letting your past circumstances control you.

If you’re saying that me avoiding engaging with my homosexuality and not having a relationship = me missing out on happy, I truly can’t ever picture myself being happy with the same sex because I know it’s wrong. I want to be loved and I want to love and I know that I can’t feel any of that from a woman, but I know it’s unnatural to receive that from a man.

I also think it's cope to blame it entirely on your CSA. Contrary to kiwi's beliefs, it's been proven that homosexuality isn't made like that.

I never blamed it entirely on my CSA - I just think it played a part and was one of the many reasons I ended up a fag. I think that constant exposire to gay porn/gay media/gay people at a young age definitely played a bigger part, but being molested kinda sealed the deal so to speak.

Has it ever crossed your mind he may not be really gay and just have lived like that because he was a grooming victim and is now coming to his senses?
Inconceivable!

In @Lightsaber Dildo ‘s defense, they’re telling the truth when they’re assuming that I’m actually just gay because I know I’m gay, but I also know that my condition most likely stemmed from CSA and exposure to gay porn/gay media - two things can be true at once. I’ve made it clear in this thread that I’ve never been able to get arousal over women, whether it’s in an irl sexual situation or pornography - I don’t think that would be the case with someone who is heterosexual or bisexual.

sounds like you're going through a lot right now. for your sister's wedding, however, not going just because she's gay will probably be one of those moments you kick yourself for for the rest of your life. unless you know that she's actively molesting or grooming children right this second it's probably worth sucking up and going to. worst case scenario is you go and end up hating gay people even more, which doesn't really seem possible, so what do you have to lose?

I don’t want to go to her wedding because it is an event celebrating her homosexual condition. Given that I’m struggling with my own homosexual condition, I don’t want to go to an event where people are celebrating someone else’s. I would feel the same way if I was an alcoholic and someone invited me to a winery - it would be self-destructive to my own healing if I were to attend. Even just having a relationship with her currently is self-destructive considering I have to acknowledge and begrudgingly accept her homosexual condition and her “partner” and pretend like I’m okay with the idea that my parents somehow magically and “naturally” had two faggot failure kids and that it tOtAlLy didn’t stem from outside/environmental factors. Its the reason why I’m going to distance myself from her and potentially cut her off - I don’t want her to parade around her condition around me. Also this is unrelated to the point but the breed of lesbian she is is just very grating lol. I’d be somewhat cool with a lipstick lez sister or a butch sister but she’s very much a make-everything-about-LGBT, rainbow shit everywhere, pronouns in bio, girldick supporting lez that I just can’t tolerate.

Stop stressing about "pro-LGBT" therapists. You need to see someone about your unresolved issues concerning your sexual assault.

I do know that I most likely need therapy to help with my unresolved trauma regarding the sexual assault I faced as a child, but I do think it’s valid and warranted to be hesitant over the idea of encountering a pro-LGBT therapist. I wouldn’t want a therapist to encourage me that my homosexuality is okay the same way I wouldn’t want a therapist to encourage someone that a scat fetish or zoophilia is okay.

I just think the gay lifestyle should not be encouraged. It is shit, you know that it is shit, I know that it is shit. Everybody knows that it is shit.

Thank you for trying to encourage me to stay on a good path and realize how wrong it is. You and @Aero the Alcoholic Bat have both done a great job at helping me realize that I don’t need to fuel my condition and I dearly appreciate it.

 

[Picnic_Boy]

inadvertently put myself in situations where I was sexually assaulted either by being overpowered or drugged.

That's some really heavy stuff to carry around in your heart. You've definitely earned the right to feel the way you do, just please try to avoid taking it out on yourself.

 

[Back To School]

That's some really heavy stuff to carry around in your heart. You've definitely earned the right to feel the way you do, just please try to avoid taking it out on yourself.

I’m not taking it out on myself or blaming myself for developing this condition - I blame the environmental influences for making me develop it and blame society for making me think it was okay to engage in degenerate homosexual behavior.

 

[ExsanguinateHorizon]

I don't know why some of you insist on 'debating' with obvious shitstirrers, who are you trying to convince?

I’m not taking it out on myself or blaming myself for developing this condition - I blame the environmental influences for making me develop it and blame society for making me think it was okay to engage in degenerate homosexual behavior.

If you really hate being gay then just don't be. Live chaste and don't pursue anyone. Don't live that life and don't put that burden on others. Everything on the internet is true so you obviously didn't deserve to be assaulted as a kid, but now you're blaming everyone else. It's pathetic you're engaging in the most stereotypical self destructive behavior and complain as if that's how it has to be because 'that's what gays are supposed to be like.' No, that's just you. Cut out your friends and family who enable it too, since you need to keep to your principles. There's your win

 

[Back To School]

I don't know why some of you insist on 'debating' with obvious shitstirrers, who are you trying to convince?

If you really hate being gay then just don't be. Live chaste and don't pursue anyone. Don't live that life and don't put that burden on others. Everything on the internet is true so you obviously didn't deserve to be assaulted as a kid, but now you're blaming everyone else. It's pathetic you're engaging in the most stereotypical self destructive behavior and complain as if that's how it has to be because 'that's what gays are supposed to be like.' No, that's just you. Cut out your friends and family who enable it too, since you need to keep to your principles. There's your win

Who did I blame for my homosexuality other than exposure to porn and media and being molested lol

 

[Omori Boy]

> Self defeating lifestyle that at best, is comparable to being infertile, which is in of itself a disease or disorder.

So heterosexual sex without the object of making offspring is a disease/mental disorder?

> Non complimentary parings which leads to either hypersexuality or bed death with no in-between

How the fuck would that happen?

Greater correlation with other messed up "sexualities" and fetishes

Not really.

> 3-7% of the population commits 25-40% of sexual violence against children, why?

I looked it up in another thread, gay men/trans women commit the same rate of CSA as straight men.

> Greater amounts of STD infection, and even diseases spread near-exclusively by homosexuals, like AIDS and monkeypox, and the efforts of the mainstream media to cover this up.

There could be a lot of reasons behind this but a good argument I've heard is because of the lack of sex education that discusses homosexual individuals.

> Greater amounts of correlating mental disorders and emotional disorders, which even studies admit that societal attitudes on homosexuality has a negligible impact on, meaning it doesn't get better even if society kisses your collective asses.

Yeah I don't know where you got your information from. Here's a survey from the Trevor Project. And here's another study that comes to the same conclusion. Affirmation doesn't just lower the rate of mental illness and suicidal ideation, it halves the rates.

> Slippery slope plays out IRL immediately after gay marriage was forced on society in 2015.

Literally what? What has been slippery sloped? Trans stuff? Good. Is it some kind of pedophilia thing? Absolutely not, LGBT people are very vocally anti-pedophilia.

There is no difference between someone who struggles with homosexual thoughts like myself and someone struggles with thoughts of pedophilia, zoophilia, coprophilia

HOLY SHIT YES THERE IS A ***HUGE*** DIFFERENCE WTF!!??!?!!?

The issue is that the majority of the people in the world are too afraid to openly admit that homosexuality is wrong, deep down everyone, even the most liberal people, know that something is “off” with the mere concept of homosexuality and the “movement”.

Yeah once again you're projecting, most people, and I mean around 70%, do not give a single shit about gay people and absolutely do not think of it as some "deeply wrong" bullshit that you have let burrow deep into your brain. Seriously, get help.

My views come from the fact that I had an awakening that made me realize my homosexuality stemmed from childhood sexual abuse coupled with exposure to gay media and gay porn at a young age, religion has nothing to do with this and I’ll never subscribe to a religion ever.

You grew up in a Christian dominant society and your morals and beliefs, even without realizing, has affected you, especially with your current "realization". Look into LGBT history, it has existed for a long time, and it wasn't always as stigmatized as it is now(well, more like 100 years ago).

I don’t think you’re being truthful when you say that the majority of people won’t question how two parents have two gay children. That is very unusual and rare.

Again you keep projecting your weird little brainworms on others, nobody gives a shit if some family has more than one kid turn out to be gay or bi. Not really anything academic but read the comments of this Leddit post, it is reletively common dummy.

Rapid On-Set Gender Dysphoria

No it's not.

majority of young detransitioners (specifically the FTM breed) said that they fell victim to a social contagion.

Actually the vast majority of detransitioners do so because they were driven to detransition due to stigma.

I think getting professional help is useless because most therapists (except ones in a hyper religious setting which I don’t feel comfortable with) are pro-LGBT and would tell me that there’s nothing wrong with me.

You're right, because homosexuality is perfectly fine and you have a terrible case of brain worms (definitely anxiety and paranoia) that you need to get checked out.

Let me reiterate this:
SEEK A THERAPIST

 

[Randall Fragg]

You know what this thread reminds me of?
Way back in the day the users of a certain forum called Sluthate 'raided' us for making fun of them. This turned into a parade of retards embarrassing themselves as we laughed at them.

I remember one particular guy who was an incel because he believed he was heinously ugly. And he was saving up for plastic surgery so he could fix himself, which would make all the girls want him and all his problems go away.
The guy posted a face picture, and he looked completely normal, even handsome. But he had fallen into this spiral of using some perceived defect to blame all his problems on, and had developed a cure-all for his issues in plastic surgery.
What was particularly interesting was the dynamic between him and the other Sluthate users. It was this fucked up abusive relationship, where they'd insult his looks and reinforce his delusions.
I see a lot of that dynamic in trannys. And I see a lot of it in this thread.

I'm not going to say that @Back To School needs to go out and get a dick in the ass. If he doesn't want to act on his sexual impulses and choses a life of celibacy, that's his choice to make. But I think that he's using his homosexuality as a scapegoat for deeper issues. If Back To School woke up the next morning completely heterosexual, he'd still end up a bitter incel whining about how stacy doesn't love him because his nose is a millimeter off the looksmaxing optimum.

Please go see an actual therapist instead of listening to a bunch of John Bunting wanna-bes on Kiwi Farms. It's clear that your self-loathing stems from childhood trauma, and you need to address that instead of wallowing in your own misery. Because all you're doing now is externalizing your self-hatred on other homosexuals and spiraling into a spiral of 'woe is me, i'm such a degenerate, wah wah'. And that's going to lead to you killing yourself or killing someone else.

You say that homosexuality is a disability, which I can accept as an argument. But disabled people can still live fulfilling, meaningful lives, and don't have to wallow in misery over their disability.