Fruttasecca
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"I dont know what to say so I am gonna pull the projecting card"
Such a groomer thing to say. Who are you even to say this.
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Well, yes.
But not because there is some megachud forbidding it.
It's just that the whole thing is a mess and doesn't work. Everybody knows this. Heck, even most gay guys know this.
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
You aren't denying being groomed so I'm forced to assume this is the case, in which I only feel sorry for you.
Did your abuser say that to you or something? Sorry for opening old wounds.
How do they "not work" any worse than straight relationships "don't work"? You know that dating/relationships as a whole are in the shitter right now and not just for gay people right?
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- 10 de Nov, 2022
Now you are just being disingenuous, there is no way you are that dense.
Fruttasecca
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Yeah, I imagine if there was some gross faggot trying to groom me as a teenager thats exactly what he would say.
But do explain why its so wrong for a gay man to question himself, but the other way around it isnt?
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I think you don't understand that this is an analysis of cost to benefit. Benefit being basic, lower urges being fulfilled, and cost being...Well everything the guy himself listed. He himself says he doesn't think its worth it, but you have a problem with his judgement? Why?
I was trying to avoid it, but you brought it up first : the problem with incels is NOT that they aren't having sex, its the bitterness / hatred that only some of the most extreme people get. Plenty of people go without and don't pull an elliot roger.
"Is wanting to take it in the ass sexual or emotional?"
Gotta be kidding me.
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
Go on and tell me how Stephanie and Hank's relationship is going to go better than Tim and Bob's relationship just because it's straight.
Did you know that even in gay relationships there are typically feminine/masculine dynamics in the same way a straight one has them?
You're not getting my point at all if that's what you took from it.
If you're straight, you're straight. If you're gay, you're gay. If you like both, you like both.
Where's the questioning? Kiwis are so firm in "if you're born a man then you will never be a woman" but as soon as gayness comes up it's like you can be whatever sexuality you want bro, God gave you the choice!
Intimacy is not a "basic, lower urge" it's an important part to anyone's life. Again, as I said before, intimacy =/= sex, but most people DO need sexual intimacy on some level.
He's making it sound like he wants to get fucked in the ass and that's a problem to him, and his solution is to pop some viagra and force himself to sleep with women instead of just...finding a guy he likes without getting fucked in the ass. If the guy desires intimacy with men and is rejecting it then he'll just have to cope with never having intimacy somehow instead of overcompensating and suffering.
Incels lack intimacy. Though true its by their own design, if they attained intimacy, they would not have the incel mindset. It's a catch 22 type thing.
Dude is just now finding out you can feel attracted toward someone without wanting to fuck them being your #1 priority. I can only imagine how you see other women.
Fruttasecca
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- 24 de Abr, 2023
Yet there is a great effort to convince increasingly younger kids they are gay and a backlash against anybody turning their back on sodomy.
Has it ever crossed your mind he may not be really gay and just have lived like that because he was a grooming victim and is now coming to his senses?
Inconceivable!
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
Of course that's a valid assumption, considering he brought up being assaulted as a child. (and the fact that troon-grooming is pretty rampant right now)
However, the rest of his posts basically say the opposite: he still has homosexual urges after all these years, and aggressively pursued women to the point where he's only doing it to avoid his gay and not to actually sleep with women.
To me, in this specific circumstance, the guy aggressively avoiding gayness seems like a trauma response. It seems like there's unresolved trauma around the assault, and if that's addressed, he will know whether or not he's actually gay or just too traumatized to let himself be with a man, because he associates it with the assault. I just have the opinion he's probably, actually just gay.
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- 7 de Mar, 2023
sounds like you're going through a lot right now. for your sister's wedding, however, not going just because she's gay will probably be one of those moments you kick yourself for for the rest of your life. unless you know that she's actively molesting or grooming children right this second it's probably worth sucking up and going to. worst case scenario is you go and end up hating gay people even more, which doesn't really seem possible, so what do you have to lose?
plus, unless you're dealing with a pooner, lesbians just kind of go crazy and have chaotic relationships with other crazy women. they're usually supportive, but mostly not actively harming children, anymore than the average western white woman already does with their media brainwashing. it seems like turning your angry energy on people who are actively going out to molest children and running interference for them (the government, the media, health organizations) is a more constructive use of time
Fruttasecca
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- 24 de Abr, 2023
naaaaaah you are not the reasonable party here, you were dead set to convince him his own feelings are wrong until you got called out for it
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Intimacy but, without sex? so just a well bonded friendship?....thats fine. All for that. Or are you just using intimacy to make "gargling dick" sound better?
Ok, this makes me wonder EVEN MORE, how you mean this.... Because if intimacy is just emotional closeness and understanding, gay sex is absolutely unnecessary. If its indeed just sex, your perspective on incels is kinda fucked, since you are saying if someone isn't getting laid, they are destined to be awful.
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
You didn't call anything out, you just shouted "groomer" and started sperging from there.
I read over the posts again and he is DEFINITELY just an aggressively self-hating gay person, no question about it.
The immense self-hatred is still due to his unresolved trauma of being assaulted.
@Back To School
I know you have the typical aversion to therapy that a lot of retarded kiwi has, but you need to talk to one about your trauma.
Stop stressing about "pro-LGBT" therapists. You need to see someone about your unresolved issues concerning your sexual assault.
You can ignore whatever they say about sexuality, if you really want to, but you definitely need to get some closure on what happened to you as a child, then go from there.
You are sabotaging yourself even more by just blindly dismissing therapy because you have a preconceived notion of what will happen if you go.
Fruttasecca
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Yeah, by a gross faggot which made him a gross faggot too. Now he is on a path to healing and you want to stop him by trying to convince him he is "gay" even though you dont even know him.
You are a groomer.
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Women's opinions on homosexuality are irrelevant. They will always go to bat for them so they can keep them as pets.
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So, wait, you would be fine with that if it was a "well bonded friendship" between two dudes who raise a child and sleep in the same bed, kiss each other, and go on dates, as long as they don't commit the sin of sodomy? Since you specifically mentioned gargling dick, oral sex between dudes is actually a rather safe alternative for sexual intimacy compared to fucking a dude in the ass.
If that's how you understood it then it's my bad for conveying my point really fucking terribly.
I do refer to "intimacy" as the act of being close, open, adored, and loved by someone you can regard as your partner, and not specifically having sex, which I've been trying to refer to specifically as "sexual intimacy".
By that rationale, whoever groomed you must've been a massive fucking retard, because you're carrying that on pretty well.
Fruttasecca
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I accept your concession
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
Oh, my bad, you wanted to continue sperging some more?
He doesn't need anyone to convince him he is gay, he gets hard for other men and can't get hard for women. For some reason you missed that part. He's gay.
The "path of healing" is getting therapy for addressing his traumas, that's it. Everything else is up to him to make himself happy.
Been thinking of this video the whole thread:
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Oh, so you 100% do mean sexual lmao. Are you really trying to say kissing ISN'T sexual? So unwanted kissing ISN'T sexual harassment in your opinion, because its not sexual?
This is what I meant about being consistent, you say "intimacy" only because it sounds better lmao. its BASICALLY all just sex related.
Fixed it to be more honest of you lmao.
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- 22 de Jul, 2022
Imagine being such a coomer you can't imagine anything but sex all the time.
This thread is "serious lgbt discussion" but has ignorant homophobes who are in here just to "dunk on the gays", what a trashfire. Should've expected as much from the thunderdome but here I am, guess this one's on me.