💬 Off-Topic "Scientific" Studies regarding Transpeople

Here is the study.

Have not read it yet but the author stated:
"One in six transgender patients reported having a long-term mental health condition, compared to one in ten across the rest of the population. Transgender patients were also more likely to say their GP was failing to meet their mental health needs. The government-funded study claimed that the main reason transgender patients had worse mental health was because of “widespread discrimination”, which created “a stressful environment, fear and internalised negative feelings”."

So of course they deem it the fault of medical doctors and now pre-existing conditions.
 

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Good study, tho people might dismiss it because it was done in Iran
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Good study, tho people might dismiss it because it was done in Iran, a country where transgenderism is essentially a weapon used against gay people.
I never understood why sand people force their gays to be even more gay. Persecuting homosex, then encouraging transition as an "answer" to it is just plain nuts to me.

Does the Quran have a passage regarding male-on-male domination and/or prison rape? Because making a man wear a wig to excuse fucking him in the ass makes me think of prison rape and how it's totally "not gay".
 
Does the Quran have a passage regarding male-on-male domination and/or prison rape? Because making a man wear a wig to excuse fucking him in the ass makes me think of prison rape and how it's totally "not gay".
I don't believe there's anything in the quran. There may be something in the hadiths. There is a small, yet significant amount of islamic juris prudence dedicated to the precise moment when fucking a man becomes a mortal sin, which seems fairly coherent across the various sects. The tl;dr is that topping is usually fine, inasmuch as it is the dominant and their masculine position. Bottoming becomes sinful when you start to grow facial hair. There's also a lower age limit iirc, somewhere in the single digits. There are other details to it as well (where, when, marital status, war state etc), but that's the gist. If you let a man fuck you after you can grow a beard, you're fucked in general. Iran "encourages" young gay men to undergo sex swap surgery because it wants to "save" them from hell by making them into women, who are meant to take the submissive role in sex.
 
I never understood why sand people force their gays to be even more gay. Persecuting homosex, then encouraging transition as an "answer" to it is just plain nuts to me.

Does the Quran have a passage regarding male-on-male domination and/or prison rape? Because making a man wear a wig to excuse fucking him in the ass makes me think of prison rape and how it's totally "not gay".
I think the Saudis have gone in the opposite direction and completely banned trannydom. So in that respect at least Sunni fundamentalists have one up on Shia fundamentalists. No idea if there is an actual theological reason for the different reactions.
 
Here is the study.

Have not read it yet but the author stated:
"One in six transgender patients reported having a long-term mental health condition, compared to one in ten across the rest of the population. Transgender patients were also more likely to say their GP was failing to meet their mental health needs. The government-funded study claimed that the main reason transgender patients had worse mental health was because of “widespread discrimination”, which created “a stressful environment, fear and internalised negative feelings”."

So of course they deem it the fault of medical doctors and now pre-existing conditions.
I knew that study was BS by the wording.
"One in six reported"
As in they voluntarily spoke about their troubles. Only one in six did so. No study involving self-reports in regards to mental health like that is accurate. You can't go up to mentally ill people and ask "are you mentally ill?". It is inherently biased.
Also. This isn't even how mental health works. PL but I have a physical disability that is impossible to hide. It is an extremely rare condition that most doctors will not know of its existence, other than doctors specializing in rare conditions. My voice is also affected so even if I hide it, they still hear my voice. As you can guess, most people are assholes about it. I am deemed as lesser and incapable. I cannot buy my way out of the situation.. I've even dealt with abuse growing up. Despite this, I am nowhere near as mentally unstable as most troons. Sure, do I struggle? Yeah. But I can hold a job. I still wanna work. I still take or at least try to take responsibility for my poor decisions, including addiction.
I have everything going against me, yet I am still more of a functional adult than these people. Others gone through worse than me, who also manage to be functional adults. I'm talking stuff like trafficking, slavery, genocide, PTSD from wars, acid attacks.
Compare that to the "discrimination" they face: being misgendered, being denied sex, being beaten up after they tried to rape someone, not being able to have an unfair advantage via sports, getting discriminated because people think they are gay, not being able to use a certain bathroom, having to deal with people finding them attractive in a way they don't like (chasers), being seen as creepy or weird because they chose to dress unconventional.

The fact this is goverment-funded is also more proof this is all a manufactured psyop,
 
Bottoming becomes sinful when you start to grow facial hair. There's also a lower age limit iirc, somewhere in the single digits. There are other details to it as well (where, when, marital status, war state etc), but that's the gist. If you let a man fuck you after you can grow a beard, you're fucked in general.
They take issue with consenting adult men that like getting their doorbell rang, but have a codified age range of when a boy can be molested and still retain his honor? The Chinese may have a strange relationship with cannibalism, but Islam is the real moon culture.
I think the Saudis have gone in the opposite direction and completely banned trannydom. So in that respect at least Sunni fundamentalists have one up on Shia fundamentalists.
Good for the House of Saud. Being "allies" of the West, they probably see what's happening to us and don't want any of that. They may still pray to the moon, but at least they stick to their guns and don't try to subvert/loophole their cultural doctorines by chopping cocks off.
 
The government-funded study claimed that the main reason transgender patients had worse mental health was because of “widespread discrimination”, which created “a stressful environment, fear and internalised negative feelings”."
It doesn't help that the troon online community loves to engage in phobia indoctrination to keep them under their control.
 
I found this study while searching for something else: Weight gain and obesity rates in transgender and gender-diverse adults before and during hormone therapy

The conclusions of the longitudinal study:
  • Trannies are fat
  • Pooners are especially fat (39% obesity rate at baseline)
  • Pooners continued to gain weight after starting testosterone therapy, with obesity rates of up to 52% after several years
  • The eunuch paunch is real: MtFs stayed at a stable weight for a couple of years and then their weight began to "steadily increase"
  • Individuals in the study are fat, and the authors would not have sex with them
 
Here is the study.

Have not read it yet but the author stated:
"One in six transgender patients reported having a long-term mental health condition, compared to one in ten across the rest of the population. Transgender patients were also more likely to say their GP was failing to meet their mental health needs. The government-funded study claimed that the main reason transgender patients had worse mental health was because of “widespread discrimination”, which created “a stressful environment, fear and internalised negative feelings”."

So of course they deem it the fault of medical doctors and now pre-existing conditions.
This is always their go to excuse.When in doubt blame discrimination for why TIPs have mental health problems.Seriously these delusional people want to force everyone to believe that they're women and the fake neo vaginas they get are just like the real ones, and when nobody believes their bullshit, they threaten suicide.If your entire existence weighs into reality that sex/gender changes are impossible and nobody wants to fuck you then you're not going to survive in this world then.
 
Pooners are especially fat (39% obesity rate at baseline)
I ALMOST think this is kinda intentional, I mean pooners are often so fucking insecure about being small, I think a lot would rather be a fat fuck looking thing that passes as a discount wings of redemption, than a scrawny little bastard. Even if its not actual muscle mass, like buck angel had, being confusable with a strongfat is an ego boost, even if its effectively useless. Looking big is better than nothing, I guess.
 
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Stupidest timeline etc.

Top neuropsychologist who found puberty-blocker drugs given to trans children may lower IQs reveals three journals rejected her 'biased' research and scolded her for using 'sex-based terms' like male-to-female​


A world-renowned expert who found puberty-blockers can harm children's IQ says woke academics initially dismissed her research as 'biased'.

University College London neuropsychologist Professor Sallie Baxendale published a review of the potential impact of the powerful drugs on teens who take them.

Her alarming study highlighted cases where young girls seemingly lost between 7 to 15 IQ points while taking the medications, which halt bodily changes in puberty.

But despite the concerning findings, Professor Baxendale initially struggled to find a publisher for her review.

Three separate journals rejected her paper in which she called for 'urgent' research into the impact of the drugs on children's brain functions.

Detailing her experiences on UnHerd, Professor Baxendale revealed that anonymous reviewers cast suspicion on her motives and reasons for exploring the subject in the first place.

Some criticised the fact she only found negative studies, despite being unable to point the expert to any positive ones, while others said it risked stigmatising trans people.

But others shockingly accused her of 'bias' by questioning if puberty blockers were safe and another said her used of terms like 'male' and 'female' showed her 'pre-existing scepticism' on the subject.

Puberty blockers, known medically as gonadotrophin-releasing hormone analogues, stop the physical changes of puberty in teens questioning their gender.

For example, they halt the development of breasts in girls and facial hair in boys.
This gives gender dysphoria sufferers time to 'conspire their options' and 'explore their developing gender identity' through therapy before starting more permanent forms of treatment, according to the NHS.

The NHS says the physical effects of the drugs, which were previously dished out by the health service's Gender Identity Development Service at Tavistock, are reversible and a person who stops taking them will simply resume puberty as normal.

However, the health service acknowledges the psychological effects of the drugs on the sensitive adolescent brain are unclear.

This is partly why the NHS stopped routinely prescribing the drugs in June, with sites now only offering puberty-blockers through clinical research due to the 'significant uncertainties' surrounding their use.

However, the drugs are still available, prescribed privately 'off-label' by some medics at non-NHS-based gender clinics.

Scientific reviews like the one conducted by Professor Baxendale aren't unusual and are a mainstay of academic literature.

They aim to collect, compare and contrast the findings of individual studies on a particular topic from across different scientific journals and nations.

Experts then analyse if there is a general consensus across the different studies, as well as if there are specific areas that need dedicated further research.

But considering the vast use of puberty blockers among young gender questioning people, what Professor Baxendale found in her review of the drugs and their impact on neurodevelopment sparked alarm.

Of the 16 good-quality studies she found, the vast majority (11) were in animals with eight of these different experiments in a single flock of sheep.

The remaining five in humans were limited in both in their methods and scale, with one consisting of just a single case study.

Professor Baxendale said the limited nature of this area of research was itself concerning, but also highlighted what little had been done suggested puberty blockers had a negative impact on brain development.

She said this raised several critical questions that needed answers.

Writing in the now-published article in the peer-reviewed Acta Paediatrica journal, she said: 'What impact does any delay in cognitive development have on an individual's educational trajectory and subsequent life opportunities given the critical educational window in which these treatments are typically prescribed?'

'If cognitive development "catches up" following the discontinuation of puberty suppression, how long does this take and is the recovery complete?'

And in her conclusion, she says transgender and gender diverse patients have been 'poorly served by the absence of research in this area' and this needed 'urgent' correction given the growth of gender questioning young people seeking help.

Professor Baxendale added that the 'highly polarised socio-political atmosphere' that surrounds the topic may be putting academics off research in this area.

Evidence reviews like Professor Baxendale's are subject to anonymous review by fellow academics before publication.

In principle, this makes sure the work meets the standards of scientific publication and any critical errors or flaws are exposed. The anonymous nature also ensures, in theory, academics give honest feedback without fear of professional repercussions.

But Professor Baxendale said the anonymous reviews she experienced on her latest work were unlike any she experienced before in 30 years of publishing.

Writing on the website Unherd, she said contrary to the usual academic questioning of her methods, reviewers instead attacked her findings directly.

'None of the reviewers identified any studies that I had missed that demonstrated safe and reversible impacts of puberty blockers on cognitive development, or presented any evidence contrary to my conclusions that the work just hasn’t been done,' she wrote.

'However, one suggested the evidence may be out there, it just hadn’t been published.

'They suggested that I trawl through non-peer reviewed conference presentations to look for unpublished studies that might tell a more positive story.'

Others raised concern that conclusions risked stigmatising trans people, while another said she should instead focus on the positive aspects of puberty blockers.

Another dismissed the review entirely given the lack of studies on the subject, one of the very points Professor Baxendale was trying to make.

her use of sex-based terms such as 'male' and 'female' was also challenged and cited as evidence of her 'pre-existing scepticism' about puberty blockers.

One reviewer even suggested she was 'biased' simply for questioning if puberty blockers were safe.

'This reviewer argued that lots of things needed to be sorted out before a clear case for the “riskiness” of puberty blockers could be made, even circumstantially,' she wrote.

'They appeared to be advocating for a default position of assuming medical treatments are safe, until proven otherwise.'

Professor Baxendale said this attitude was against the basic tenets of medical intervention, that doctors cannot simply assume the default position that a treatment is safe and fully reversible.

She highlighted how this opposition came despite her paper not calling for puberty blockers to be banned and that the majority of medical treatments aren't is risk free and given on the basis of balancing the risks and benefits to a patient.

NHS England's decision to restrict puberty blockers was made as part of the health service's new gender incongruence service for children and young people, which will replace the clinic at Tavistock and Portman NHS Foundation Trust.

Tavistock was heavily criticised in an interim review carried out by paediatrician Dr Hilary Cass in 2022, which called its model 'unsustainable'.

The clinic has also been accuse-d of rushing children onto puberty blocking drugs by former patients who feel they weren't challenged enough.

 
Clinical gender dysphoria does not appear to be predictive of all-cause nor suicide mortality when psychiatric treatment history is accounted for.

Most importantly, when psychiatric treatment needs, sex, birth year and differences in follow-up times were accounted for, the suicide mortality of both those who proceeded and did not proceed to GR(gender reassignment) did not statistically significantly differ from that of controls. This does not support the claims that GR is necessary in order to prevent suicide. GR has also not been shown to reduce even suicidal ideation, and suicidal ideation is not equal to actual suicide risk.
 

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Clinical gender dysphoria does not appear to be predictive of all-cause nor suicide mortality when psychiatric treatment history is accounted for.

Most importantly, when psychiatric treatment needs, sex, birth year and differences in follow-up times were accounted for, the suicide mortality of both those who proceeded and did not proceed to GR(gender reassignment) did not statistically significantly differ from that of controls. This does not support the claims that GR is necessary in order to prevent suicide. GR has also not been shown to reduce even suicidal ideation, and suicidal ideation is not equal to actual suicide risk.
suicide mortality among young people seeking GR is rare.
GR has also not been shown to reduce even suicidal ideation7 8, and suicidal ideation is not equal to actual suicide risk.
In this study, all-cause mortality was predicted through psychiatric treatment, with a higher risk associated with increased treatment needs and the male sex.

Being trans doesn't seem to increase suicide risk, and gender reassignment doesn't reduce it. What does increase the risk? Being a standard issue cis male. I say we maintain the position that society has to bend over backwards to do everything the group prone to suicide asks for just because it's always funny to annoy TERFS. We have to give Timmy all the free porn he asks for, would you rather have a dead son or a live coomer?
 
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What Happened at MultiCare? (Archive)

A whistleblower reveals troubling new details about a Washington hospital’s push for “gender-affirming care.”

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Last week, a therapist named Tamara Pietzke went public in The Free Press with disturbing allegations against her former employer, the MultiCare health system, and its pediatric hospital, Mary Bridge, in Washington State. Pietzke described an environment in which kids with severe mental-health problems and histories of sexual trauma and abuse were being put on a fast track to “gender-affirming” hormonal interventions. Clinicians with doubts that body-modifying hormones were the best way to help these children were silenced and asked to “examine [their] biases.”

In her article, Pietzke describes one case in particular, involving a young girl whom I’ll call “Ava,” as “one of the most extreme and heartbreaking” she had ever seen. The case illustrates three troubling features of the gender-affirming model: its use of a “minority stress” theory to cast severe trauma, mental-health problems, and neurocognitive challenges as irrelevant to decisions about hormonal treatments; the pipeline from first contact with a mental-health provider to the endocrinologist’s syringe; and the willingness of “affirming” providers to shirk the very medical guidelines that they claim to follow, at least when following them would mean not approving a teenager for hormones.
Ava’s past was saturated with abuse, neglect, and sexual violence. As a child, she had been sexually abused by a cousin, her mother’s former boyfriend, and a classmate. She told Pietzke that “horror and porn movies . . . were the only ones available in her house,” and that her mother “practices bestiality.” The mother had tried to kill Ava’s sister, who was also “questioning her gender,” in front of Ava, and now had a restraining order against her. The father was out of the picture, but the request to put Ava on testosterone came from him. The sisters, meantime, were being raised by the mother’s ex-boyfriend.

During therapy sessions, including on the first visit, Ava would rock back and forth and communicate with Pietzke by showing her “extremely sadistic and graphic pornographic videos on her phone.” The 13-year-old’s trauma was so severe that she would occasionally “age-regress” at home “by watching Teletubbies and sucking on a pacifier.” If there was ever a teenager whom even the most ardent of “gender-affirming” clinicians could agree is not a good candidate for medical transition, surely it was Ava.

Yet the Mary Bridge gender clinic approved Ava for testosterone on her first visit. Pietzke was incredulous. Ava had been all but incapable of verbal communication during sessions. How could the clinic possibly be confident that she understood the risks and uncertainties of hormonal treatments, even assuming these were forthrightly communicated to her? When Pietzke asked the clinic whether Ava had shown a clear understanding of what was going to happen to her, it abruptly assured her that everything was fine.
Rolfe [representing the clinic] cited 25 professional U.S. health-care associations, the World Health Organization, and the Department of Health and Human Services, implying that all of these organizations would support a decision to approve Ava for testosterone. As for Pietzke’s mention of the changes in pediatric gender medicine abroad, Rolfe insisted that these were not due to “consensus of the medical and psychological communities” but to “political parties who use biased and disputed research to back their claims.”

Rolfe’s claims about changes in the treatment of youth with gender dysphoria in Europe are demonstrably false. Health-care policymaking in centralized welfare states like Finland and Sweden is usually more insulated from political pressures than in the United States, where doctors’ interest groups like the American Academy of Pediatrics and drug and medical device companies play an outsize role. Finnish and Swedish health authorities each conducted systematic reviews of the evidence and began revising their pediatric gender medicine policies when the Finnish Social Democratic Party and the Swedish Social Democratic Workers’ Party, both on the center-left of the political spectrum, were in power.
Not willing to abandon Ava, Pietzke decided to write a letter of support—for additional therapy, not hormones. On January 2, 2024, she sent the letter to four people: her supervisor, the new therapist assigned to Ava, Rolfe, and Kim Cummins, the certified professional in healthcare quality (CPHQ) and senior risk manager at MultiCare who approved Ava’s transfer. Pietzke explained in detail why hormones were inappropriate for Ava. She even cited the relevant sections in the World Professional Association for Transgender Health’s (WPATH) Standards of Care in its eighth revision (SOC-8) that support her position. In previous communications with Cummins and Rolfe, Pietzke was told that MultiCare uses SOC-8.

Experts in evidence-based medicine have criticized SOC-8 as untrustworthy, and WPATH’s more outspoken critics have designated SOC-8 a dangerous document. SOC-8, for instance, falsely claims that a systematic review of evidence for pediatric transition is “not possible.” It recognizes “eunuch” as a valid “gender identity,” including in children, characterized by a sincere desire to be castrated. It also recommends untraditional genital surgeries such as “penile-preserving vaginoplasty” (a procedure that constructs a pseudo-vagina underneath the penis) for males who identify as “non-binary.” Within days of SOC-8’s release, WPATH eliminated all age minimums for hormones and surgeries except phalloplasty, later explaining that it wanted to shield providers from legal liability. Several European countries have now broken with WPATH and are developing their own standards of care, based on systematic evidence reviews and a more traditional understanding of medical ethics.

Not so in the United States. Here, SOC-8 has come under criticism from “affirming” clinicians as being too conservative. In the months leading up to SOC-8’s release, gender clinicians criticized WPATH for excessive “gatekeeping.” “The adolescent chapter is the worst,” one trans-identified doctor told the New York Times. Another complained that SOC-8 authorizes a “comprehensive inquisition of [trans-identified adolescents’] gender.” The International Transgender Health Group argued that the adolescent chapter “undermines patient autonomy.” Christopher Lewis, the endocrinologist at whistleblower Jamie Reed’s clinic in St. Louis, privately confided in his colleague that he had “no idea how to meet what would be the most intensive interpretations of the SOC,” meaning that he found SOC-8’s already-weak safeguards too prohibitive.
Written by Leor Sapir, who has made appearances in the Alex Caraballo thread.
And this bit cracked me up:
The 13-year-old said that her classmates “call[ed] her retarded because I’m a furry—running on all fours, jumping, that sort of stuff.” Furries, explains one researcher sympathetic to the subculture, “are people who have an interest in anthropomorphism.” The subculture has been linked to sexual paraphilia, an association some of its members reject. Regardless, there seems to be an overlap between the furry and trans subcultures. Rolfe’s response to learning about Ava’s furry-like behavior at school was that this was “not relevant information to gender identity or gender dysphoria” and not a reason to deny her testosterone.
 
whistleblower reveals troubling new details about a Washington hospital’s push for “gender-affirming care.”
Oh boy. We have the documentary "What Is A Woman?" but I can't wait until someone makes an in-deph documentary bringing all of this medical corruption to light. Going in detail about all the trans studies and how horribly misleading the "science" actually is.
People underestimate documentaries and their influence on the general public, but there's been plenty of documentaries that changed the norm. Super Size Me is a great example. Documentaries are so influential that there are plenty of documentaries created for propaganda that had an actual effect on peoples perception of things despite being nonfactual. It's one of the reasons why trans stuff is so accepted too.
 

What Happened at MultiCare? (Archive)

A whistleblower reveals troubling new details about a Washington hospital’s push for “gender-affirming care.”
During therapy sessions, including on the first visit, Ava would rock back and forth and communicate with Pietzke by showing her “extremely sadistic and graphic pornographic videos on her phone.” The 13-year-old’s trauma was so severe that she would occasionally “age-regress” at home “by watching Teletubbies and sucking on a pacifier.” If there was ever a teenager whom even the most ardent of “gender-affirming” clinicians could agree is not a good candidate for medical transition, surely it was Ava.

Yet the Mary Bridge gender clinic approved Ava for testosterone on her first visit. Pietzke was incredulous. Ava had been all but incapable of verbal communication during sessions. How could the clinic possibly be confident that she understood the risks and uncertainties of hormonal treatments, even assuming these were forthrightly communicated to her? When Pietzke asked the clinic whether Ava had shown a clear understanding of what was going to happen to her, it abruptly assured her that everything was fine.
Holy shit that is horrifying. Not surprised this happened in my home state whose current AG is focused on running for governor after going after the chicken producers and Facebook under the guise of safety... while overlooking this type of shit. Then again, almost 4 years ago we had CHAZ/CHOP and look it how that turned out. I agree with deermeat here that documentaries are very influential and hopefully it'll peak the liberal normies here in Puget Sound. Heck Seattle just got a moderate City Council after years of progressive rule so anything is possible here.
 
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