Scientific conservation on Mars, you're in charge - Research and morality, but also fun

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You have to decide if you want to violate this principle in the name of research, potential benefits or threats to society, general curiosity, etc (or your own motives), in the way that I'll describe afterwards.


* Roughly, what I mean here by "scientific conservation" is simply a guideline that states that an object/thing/whatever that is being investigated should not be done through destructive or heavily invasive means, unless there's no alternative.

So for example, cutting down an old tree to research its characteristics would generally go against the principle, because you're essentially killing it, and you're also eliminating future potential reasearch on it that you could do if it were alive.



Here you are, you're the next Elon, and after abandoning the idea of actively colonizing Mars, you get another brilliant one: sending microorganisms or other life forms to this planet, in order for it to potentially thrive, grow and evolve.

It's known that Mars' environment is hostile enough (just like pretty much every other planet in the Solar System), however I believe there are regions where extremophiles (from Earth) can live.
This is just the most practical example I have available (sending it to Mars), but the hypothetical can extend itself to other planets, even ones that are yet undiscovered, the point is what you would do.

So you can send these lifeforms, and metaphorically let it grow like a plant, or be just like a kid watching their ant-farm develop. It would mean putting into action one of the most devastating practices of interplanetary contamination, but it would also be fun!

New medicine could be created, but also new threats (new diseases, etc); it could also create new ways of processing matter/energy (e.g: like an organism that naturally excretes diamonds, or purifies water, etc), so you're left with this, do you do it or not? What's the reason?

And also: if you do, and when/if intelligent lifeform develops, do you give them rights, do you give them sovereignty if asked? Do you see anything immoral in doing/not doing so? Would that contradict your actions if aliens came, claiming that they were the ones who injected life on Earth, much like you did to Mars/wherever, and ask that you serve them? (this is just for fun)
 
i see no reason not to do it. it's not like mars cares, nor do we have anything better to do with it.

if intelligent life evolves, exterminate it immediately before it gets any chance to become a competitor and potential threat to humanity.
 
I don't think there will be any actual rush to terraform/colonize Mars, so we should look for any existing microbes at first using robots and a light human presence. Even if microbes can't live on the surface due to toxic perchlorates in the soil, there could easily be subsurface liquid water deposits teeming with life. Relatively easy to access if it's in a surface glacier, significantly more difficult if it's buried miles deep and needs to be identified with advanced radar, random drilling, etc.

Spend a few decades doing that before considering nuking the place. Work on how to generate an artificial magnetic field in the meantime.
 
dude this is a deep thoughts question.

Also that sounds fine by me, I'm cool with the Aussies making a man made lake that goes through Australia so there would be more habitable lands for people to colonize. As long as we dont completely eradicate an entire species then fuck Prime Directive.
 
It would mean putting into action one of the most devastating practices of interplanetary contamination,
Mars is a literally deader than anything it's even possible to experience on Earth desert world, how do you contaminate something that is literally worse than every single one of the shittiest most inhospitable, lifeless places you can think of on the surface of the Earth combined? Like the area directly after a nuclear blast directly in the middle of the most arid part of the Gobi Dessert is a million times more hospitable than even the very best place on Mars.

New medicine could be created, but also new threats (new diseases, etc); it could also create new ways of processing matter/energy (e.g: like an organism that naturally excretes diamonds, or purifies water, etc), so you're left with this, do you do it or not? What's the reason?
I don't really understand what benefits doing any of those experiments on Mars would be over doing them in controlled extreme environments on Earth. How would studying those lifeforms on Mars as opposed to on Earth make any difference in discovering any of those properties? We're talking about microscopic organisms. Thousands, millions of generations of them can be bred relatively quickly. It's easy to create environments for them in nearly any conditions that exist in our solar system and even ones that don't in a lab.
if you do, and when/if intelligent lifeform develops, do you give them rights, do you give them sovereignty if asked? Do you see anything immoral in doing/not doing so?
If I were still alive by the time any of this ever became some kind of concern, I'd probably have to be some kind of immortal God emperor capable of living millions of years, in which case, no I wouldn't give the slightest fuck about some lab experiment I created that was obviously done with the utmost hubris and lack of fucks given originally millions of years prior in my mortal days. There's a good chance they'd already be my slaves working in the Martian mines and building statues and effigies of me and shit.
Would that contradict your actions if aliens came, claiming that they were the ones who injected life on Earth, much like you did to Mars/wherever, and ask that you serve them? (this is just for fun)
Yeah I'd tell those fuckers to go fuck themselves then gather my army of Martian slaves and other genetically engineered monstrosities and go to war with them, a war the likes of which the fucking galaxy's never seen before. Hunt those fuckers back to their home planet and turn it into a lifeless rock just for daring to suggest I should serve them.
 
We should just use the alien technology we have under lock and key and build off of it. Establish a synthetic planetoid megacity that orbits Earth and houses us all and can travel anywhere in an instant. Humanity becomes a society that produces zero waste and recycles everything on the atomic level to prevent overconsumption. Earth becomes a nature reserve and old human cities become historical tourist destinations. Earth’s natural state is preserved as much as possible. Humans are genetically improved to have the most efficient and successful genes. Minds of the living are scanned daily and saved in back-ups to be implanted in clones of the deceased so that they live forever. Reproduction is forbidden to prevent overpopulation. Once we’re able to master ourselves we become masters of the universe. Our human destiny is to ensure the protection, preservation and harmony of everything in space. Our superior position would allow us to prevent any intelligent life to usurp our position. Whatever our minds will, we can make it. We can travel anywhere and see anything in the blink of an eye and observe and study. The only limit is what we can’t comprehend. The next frontier for us to study, explore and tackle is extra-dimensional.
 
You have to decide if you want to violate this principle in the name of research, potential benefits or threats to society, general curiosity, etc (or your own motives), in the way that I'll describe afterwards.


Its a dead rock. Who gives a shit about conserving a dead rock?

Okay I can see some arguments for conservation for the sake of scientific curiosity but overall Mars environmentalism is way dumber than Earth environmentalism. And I think a lot of Earth environmentalism is dumb.
 
As Biosphere 2 showed, and as the hostile environment shows, permanently living on that desert planet may be science fiction anyway.

It's possible that one very flawed species is stuck on that one 3rd planet.
 
In all honesty what we do with Mars should be determined for when we actually get there and establish something permanent. There’s still a lot scientifically to be gleaned from Mars in its current condition and figuring it all out before taming it can be beneficial for not only understanding how we came to be or anything else in the universe for that matter, but how to condition similar planets in the future. It will aid in technological advancement and knowledge.
 
I colonised Uranus with my big rocket.
 
Morally I'd be torn with this. Because if there are microbes on Mars my introduction of Earth microbes could harm or destroy them. Or cause some major disaster like an irl Andromeda Strain. These are mistakes that cannot be undone.

This would make a fun game though.
 
Nothing. I don't want to wake up the Void Dragon.
 
Accelerate, go full black light T-Virus on mars. Just dump everything there and see what organisms stick.
 
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