School choice programs have been wildly successful under DeSantis. Now public schools might close.

The Republican governor’s school choice programs may serve as a model for other GOP-leaning states across the country.​

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Enrollment is rising among school choice programs pushed by Gov. Ron DeSantis, and state Republicans as some school districts are considering closing down campuses. | Lynne Sladky/AP

By ANDREW ATTERBURY
05/26/2024 08:33 AM EDT

Gov. Ron DeSantis and Florida Republicans have spent years aggressively turning the state into a haven for school choice. They have been wildly successful, with tens of thousands more children enrolling in private or charter schools or homeschooling.

Now as those programs balloon, some of Florida’s largest school districts are facing staggering enrollment declines — and grappling with the possibility of campus closures — as dollars follow the increasing number of parents opting out of traditional public schools.

The emphasis on these programs has been central to DeSantis’ goals of remaking the Florida education system, and they are poised for another year of growth. DeSantis’ school policies are already influencing other GOP-leaning states, many of which have pursued similar voucher programs. But Florida has served as a conservative laboratory for a suite of other policies, ranging from attacking public- and private-sector diversity programs to fighting the Biden administration on immigration.

“We need some big changes throughout the country,” DeSantis said Thursday evening at the Florida Homeschool Convention in Kissimmee. “Florida has shown a blueprint, and we really can be an engine for that as other states work to adopt a lot of the policies that we’ve done.”

Education officials in some of the state’s largest counties are looking to scale back costs by repurposing or outright closing campuses — including in Broward, Duval and Miami-Dade counties. Even as some communities rally to try to save their local public schools, traditional public schools are left with empty seats and budget crunches.

Since 2019-20, when the pandemic upended education, some 53,000 students have left traditional public schools in these counties, a sizable total that is forcing school leaders to consider closing campuses that have been entrenched in local communities for years.

In Broward County, Florida’s second-largest school district, officials have floated plans to close up to 42 campuses over the next few years, moves that would have a ripple effect across Fort Lauderdale and Hollywood.

The district has lost more than 20,000 students over the last five years, a decline that comes as charter schools in particular experienced sizable growth in the area. Enrollment in charters, which are public schools operating under performance contracts freeing them of many state regulations, increased by nearly 27,000 students since 2010, according to Broward school officials.

“Florida has shown a blueprint, and we really can be an engine for that as other states work to adopt a lot of the policies that we’ve done.”
— Gov. Ron DeSantis

Broward County Public Schools claims to have more than 49,000 classroom seats sitting empty this year, a number that “closely matches” the 49,833 students attending charter schools in the area, officials noted in an enrollment overview.

These enrollment swings are pressing Broward leaders to combine and condense dozens of schools, efforts that would save the district on major operating costs. So far, some of the ideas are meeting heavy resistance.

One proposal aiming to turn a popular Fort Lauderdale magnet school that focuses on the Montessori teaching method into a neighborhood school brought a crowd nearing 200 people in opposition at a recent town hall. There, dozens of audience members, a sea of blue “VSY’’ shirts representing Virginia Shuman Young elementary, contended the plan would cause an unnecessary “disruption” for a top-rated school.

“You are trying to create school communities that attract families,” Erin Gohl, the PTA president at VSY, said during the May 6 town hall. “Look at what you have before you — replicate, don’t dismantle and destroy this incredible school community.”

The strong opposition to school closures prompted Broward Superintendent Howard Hepburn to abruptly back away from the idea for the upcoming school year. But school board members instead directed Hepburn to formulate a plan to close eight schools in 2025 or 2026, contending it was a tough, yet appropriate, decision.

“If you want us to offer great education to your children and create the Broward County of tomorrow, you want us to close campuses,” school board member Allen Zeman said during a May 14 meeting. “And you want us to spend that money educating your students.”

Where students are going​

The enrollment declines for Broward, Duval and Miami coincide with the Covid-19 pandemic, which sent parents seeking new education choices for their children. How traditional public schools handled the pandemic, as well as disagreements over curriculum and subject matter, have also contributed to parents leaving, according to school choice advocates.

“If your product is better, you’ll be fine. The problem is, they are a relic of the past — a monopolized system where you have one option,” Chris Moya, a Florida lobbyist representing charter schools and the state’s top voucher administering organization, said of traditional public schools. “And when parents have options, they vote with their feet.”

Enrollment among charters has increased by more than 68,000 students statewide from 2019-20 to this school year, according to data from the Florida Department of Education. More than a third of that rise happened in Broward, Duval and Miami counties alone.

Private school enrollment across Florida rose by 47,000 students to 445,000 students from 2019-20 to 2022-23, according to the latest data available from the state. Much of that growth is from newly enrolled kindergartners, with only a small fraction of these students having been previously enrolled in public schools, according to Step Up for Students, the preeminent administrator of state-sponsored scholarships in Florida.

A growing number of families also chose to homeschool their children during this span, as this population grew by nearly 50,000 students between 2019-20 and 2022-23, totaling 154,000 students in the latest Florida Department of Education data.

As all of these choice options ascend, enrollment in traditional public schools across the state decreased by 55,000 students from 2019-20 to this year, state data shows. But enrollment isn’t down everywhere. While Duval County has lost thousands of students, enrollment is up by more than 7,700 students at neighboring St. John’s County, the state’s top-ranked school district.

“The money follows the student and the family. It’s not embedded in a certain system or a certain framework,” DeSantis said in April when asked about potential school closures in Duval. “And so, the student and the family will be making those decisions.”

In Miami-Dade, there are expected to be nearly 15,000 new students receiving state funding for education this fall. But all of that growth is flowing to private and charter schools, leaving Miami Dade Public Schools bracing for a decline of more than 4,000 students next year.

What may appear to be a “great story” for a school district on paper actually represents a sizable enrollment dip, Ron Steiger, Chief Financial Officer for Miami Dade Public Schools, told school board members during a May 22 workshop.

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Miami Dade Public Schools are bracing for a decline of more than 4,000 students next year. | Joe Raedle/Getty Images

“Those students are not ours,” he said.

The state’s scholarship program is expected to grow, which could lead to more students leaving traditional public schools. While most new scholarship recipients previously attended private schools already, there is space for 82,000 more statewide — nearly 217,000 total — to attend private school or find a different schooling option on the state’s dime next school year.

Further, there will be 22,000 additional scholarships available for families choosing to homeschool — up to 40,000 — and 16,000 more for students with special needs, according to projections from state economists.

School districts grapple with the decline​

While school leaders in Miami aren’t considering closing schools amid an enrollment decline, the district is preparing to repurpose several campuses. The plans are already riling parents who worry about what their new schools could look like.

And the growth of school choice programs in Duval County is a key factor behind a budget crisis gripping the school district, according to school officials.

Traditional public schools in the area are projected to enroll some 10,000 less students in 2024-25, compared with five years ago, according to Dana Kriznar, interim superintendent of Duval County Public Schools.

Similar to Broward, school leaders in Duval are pushing to consolidate and close schools due to the enrollment decline, and preparing to cut more than 700 positions. The district is also expected to run out of federal Covid-19 dollars and is dealing with increased construction costs for previously planned projects, adding to the budget crunch.

Local communities are scrambling to head off cuts. Near Florida’s Atlantic Coast and surrounded by palm trees, Atlantic Beach Elementary has served generations of Floridians in the area just north of Jacksonville since 1939 with a signature art-deco style. But it’s one of many at risk of closure in Duval County, prompting city commissioners in Atlantic Beach to pass a resolution to save their “little pink school” from the chopping block.

Yet even if the Duval school board spares the classic pink campus, or Broward backs off from Virginia Shuman Young elementary, changes and closures are still bound to happen at traditional public schools in these areas.

“It’s a financial decision that we are making, but we are also not making it without compassion and engaging the community,” Duval County school board member Charlotte Joyce said during a recent workshop meeting. “If we don’t do something about this problem, then it could be the demise of traditional public education in Duval County.”

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Public schools are some of the most common prowling grounds for faggots and troons to indoctrinate children. Less and less kids going to them can only be a good thing.
 
Lots of parents of public school students will tell you all day long that public school is worth it. But if you gave them that spending back to spend on their kids instead, many would be able to stay home and educate their own kids with the best materials available. It's hard to believe most kids are actually getting their money's worth out of public school spending today.
Education is surprisingly cheap when you're not spending 6 hours a day breaking up fights and translating everything into 70 languages.
 
(lmao @ baltimore's $21k per student vs. tennessee's $11k per student.) Just imagine a system where we didn't send additional resources to crappy districts. Gotta wonder what Tennessee would look like with $21k per student funding instead of Baltimore. Somehow, I doubt they'd be mass producing rappers and crime statistics.

Well, they produced Ashley Hutsell. And she was in a gifted class in 4th grade, or so she boasts.
 
It's interesting how incredibly angry public school parents get about the homeschooling parents getting their kids' public school expenditures paid back for enrichment and activities. Yup, looks like these kids can have all the books, all the curriculum, new science and engineering kits all the time, art supplies, musical instruments, kayaks, surfboards, and science museum memberships...and still have money rolling over into a college savings plan.
With how shitty most public schools end up feeling I would imagine most people would be shocked how much money is really being spent per student. The money certainly isn't showing up in the teaching quality or facilities.
 
For anyone who’s interested and has kids, 33 US states have a program called Ed Choice where it offers a massive discount on tuition to a private school of choice below a certain income level, and it’s a higher cap.

It basically takes the money that would be spent on the child from public school, and it’s been a godsend.
Now I know they’ll be in a wholesome environment that also has a higher academic standard, and I recommend Ed Choice to anyone who wants their kids out of indoctrination hellholes but the tuition of private school is a problem.
 
To quit beating around the bush I hear a lot about these "voucher" programs but one thing I've seldom heard, and admittedly haven't bothered to research, is to what extent if any are disruptive students that otherwise wouldn't be capable of getting into these charter/private schools managing to now shit them up?

I ask not because I give a shit about the progeny of people who send their kids to private schools but because I have a hunch that this is just smearing the problems of the public school system into otherwise unaffected sectors of education in a way that's been palatably sold to conservatives.
from what i understand, in practice it's actually the opposite. the key point in the charter school debate is that charter schools are able to hold standards for their students and kick them out, while public schools do not have this option. as long as your child is behaving themselves and doing well in school the money from that state that would have gone to the public school is being funneled to the charter school instead and they are probably getting a better education

with the way public schools are being run it seems likely in the future that charter schools will be the place where halfway kids go and public schools will be the place where all the rejects go. satellite or alternative schools used to be where they housed all the troublemakers and then it became racist to keep shitty students away from productive students so it's a bed of their own making
 
With how shitty most public schools end up feeling I would imagine most people would be shocked how much money is really being spent per student. The money certainly isn't showing up in the teaching quality or facilities.
Per my previous comments, with the sheer spending in some districts, it could be viable to simply pay people to homeschool their kids and quit their jobs. 3 kids in the baltimore school districts = $63k. That's more than the median american worker makes in a year, and it's being spent on schools in slums where the typical student doesn't even want to be there.

Hypothetically, how much should schools cost anyhow? Let's just approximate the basics with the cost of teachers alone sans building or anything else. Let's presume your kids will have 5 classes a day each with a class size of 20 (I know, lmao, it's really 30+). The teachers in turn will also teach 5 classes a day to keep the math simple. The results in a per pupil cost of 1/20 of the cost of a teacher. Let's assume a high number for shits and giggles. Each teacher costs $100k after all the various expenses are added, so the per pupil cost is $5k. If Tennessee spending is used as the baseline, this means that the rest of the costs of education can reasonably be estimated at ~$6k per pupil in a normal state. Even this seems high to me but maybe school buildings are maintained with union labor. It could also be that perhaps a lot of money gets dumped on gyms and other assorted non-education items. I thought that parents paid for a lot of extracurricular activities though (uniforms, instruments, etc.). Parents have to pay for their kids lunches too, so that's not where the money's going (an argument could be made for making tax payer funded lunches a standard practice to help at-risk kids in impoverished areas or with abusive families).

How this somehow reaches $21k/pupil in a shithole like Baltimore is a question only the bank accounts of political insiders could answer. The money most certainly isn't going toward the kids, teachers, or classroom supplies.
 
alternative schools used to be where they housed all the troublemakers
Not in CA.
I got sent to an alternative school because I wouldn't color code my AP History folder and successfully taught the Spanish teacher's class FROM THEIR TEACHER'S WORKBOOK because I'd been previously homeschooled and knew what was "behind the veil". That's seriously it.

Only reason I was in public school anyway was because I decided that being homeschooled in the ghetto from 2nd to 8th grades wasn't doing much for my social life, so I went where the people were. (Big mistake.)

Oh also, they made us watch 9/11. I'm not talking "you had the option"; not watching it was an F on everything for the day. The Black kids even took the next day off. SURPRISE SURPRISE.
 
You guys DO know that the whole idea of public education was dreamed up by Communist reformers during the Gilded Age as an alternative to child labor, right? Back then ending the employment"exploitation" of children was a major goal of Murikan Communists, despite the fact that children had always done work. So the parents work and the kids aren't working too, so what do we do with the kids? Answer: babysit them in "schools" where they will learn to be good Communists.

Then the robber barons realized that schools could be used to teach kids how to follow orders and do the rote manual labor needed for Murika's giant factories, so the barons jumped on board. Today, schools mainly use the same methods to prepare poor kids for their future "employment" as lifelong prison inmates.

The rich kids go to their own schools, where the curriculum is far different-after all, you can't let a business run itself. (The Vanderbilts tried that, and their railroad empire missed the big rig revolution of the 50s. The Vanderbilt descendants are no longer rich. William Vanderbilt preferred throwing money at any weird invention that popped up and let managers hired by others run the business.)
 
First there was seggregation by skin colour. Then that was abolished and look where we end up (though you could say coddling dumb kids was a huge factor in that as well). Now add trooning into the mix and it gets woprse. So now we seggregate again. Niggers and troons will become the bgottom feeder and the more gifted the leading caste. Until the troon menace manage to infiltrate the new school system and this whole shitstow starts AGAIN
 
I think this would be skirting the issue of homeschooling versus charter schooling, but this seems like it would be a great way for parents to homeschool using this voucher money.

1. You track down four other parents and assess how well you, they, and the kids might mesh. I'll assume two parent households.
2. Each of the wives (makes more sense, but the husband would be fine, too) cuts back their own workload to four days a week and each takes a one day a week turn supervising the five kids.
3. You set up four of those days of: 2 hours of directed curriculum/ 1 of the kids fucking around/ 2 more of curriculum/ 1 more of free time fucking around/ 2 more hours of curriculum.
4. You set up Fridays to be a kid chosen project day. each kid getting a week, and over the year, each kid getting to pick four weeks of what enrichment they are into. Museum day? Cool. Surfing? Cool. Electronics? Cool. Chess tournament? Cool. Autistic researching of the Austro-Hungarian Empire? Cool. Rock climbing? Cool. Forming a band? Cool. Field trip to historical site or a TED Talk? Cool. Whatever. You'd have all that extra money from the voucher for enrichment opportunities, especially pooled together, to do a lot of different things. Then they have one homework assignment over the weekend: write an essay about what you learned and your thoughts on the activities of self-directed day.

On top of that, each kid would still have a peer group, a structure, and more time with one of their parents than they would otherwise have in the public system. The trick, I suppose, would be working out which parents weren't autists, or had kids that were already lost to a failed education system. But really, that seems like a system that would educate kids well and in a healthy environment
 
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